personaly i think the new rules are not to bad......i have played MANY games with these new rules.....i respect other opinions and agree that some rules can appear a bit daft or odd...in many cases they are a bit odd...but there you go...i have been playing 40k from the moment rouge trader came out....and both of the recent games suck when you get down to it.......oh..and a bolter cannot penetrate a leman russ...even at its weekest point..the rear armour (10)..a boltgun is str 4 + d6 + maximum of 10 a glancing hit only...and a lucky one at that!....if you get behind a leman russ and dont get killed you opponant is either mad or very crap.............(posted 9313 days ago)