Hi John,(posted 9038 days ago)The gist of your post is quite opposite of what I've found, but I'm going to try a roll at E.I. 25 to see what happens. I've been using the times off the Kodak web site, as they seem fairly accurate. BTW, when I tried the TMAX developer, I thought it was grainy and brutalized highlights. Then I noticed that the bold recomendation was at 75 degrees (I think- been a while), and I was using the times for 68. It works much better at the recommended temperature, though it still wouldn't be my first choice in developers. Kodak's literature specifically recommends it as a pushing developer, not something I do very often. Thanks for the info- I'll try it and see if steers me in a new direction, or confirms my initial notions concerning Dmax.