Don, both Kodak T400CN and Ilford XP2S are chromogenic films, that is they are processed (only) in standard C41 chemistry. They are both very good films, indeed, with an extended range over most films. I shoot conventional B&W primarily, but can get excellent prints from either of these films. They can be used for the subjects you suggest, and much more. As noted, it is optimal to print your own images.(posted 8700 days ago)