> can't do it effectively with any of the Ilford films(posted 8371 days ago)Interesting...I've always had the devil of a time putting a usable shoulder into HP5+ and Delta 100 while maintaining enough agitation for good evenness. The curve shape is always dead straight out to Zone XII+.
The only success I've had has been with D-23 or D-25 using dramatically shortened development time, followed by a bath in borax solution. To me that's rarely-used "heroic measures" and always results in muddy low-contrast highlights; otoh I often can't decide which is worse, low-contrast highlights or _lots_ of burning-in.