Bob, I use Neopan 1600 almost exclusively. You can see some of the work at: http://ChristianHarkness.tripod.com. I love the stuff, but I think its real speed is no higher than around 800. I shoot it mostly @ 1000 and develop @ 1000, in Sprint 1:9. It works for me, but a lot of folks seem down on it. Anyhow, I do agree that if you are after real speed, TMZ @1600 in T- Max developer is probably your best bet.(posted 8780 days ago)chris