That Gainer article is at http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/VitC/vitc.html. I've been so busy I haven't had time to try any of these, but after Ted's glowing endorsement I must get busy and mix some up.(posted 8242 days ago)You might also check out the article on Appreciating Rodinal. The very last paragraph gives a Rodinal- like formula of Patrick Gainer's which includes ascorbic acid and hydroxide. In a few days I'll add a couple of his photographs from negatives developed in this formula. I haven't tried this formula either, as I have never stocked paraminiphenol before, but it sounds intriguing. Gainer also points out that 4 grams/liter of ascorbic acid added to Rodinal (1:50) works a lot better at reducing grain than large quantities of sulfite.