In a newer Jobo CPE-2+ (that runs at 75 rpm), at 75 degrees F, for 6 min. 15 sec. in Ilfosol-S 1:14, based on the standard 0.1 above base+fog, EI 100. Speed determined using a Zone VI modified Pentax digital spot meter. The sharpest, most even and grain-free negatives I've been able to reliably produce. In roll sizes, only minimal yellow color of negative densities above 0.9, unlike Xtol which, when it does work, yields "stoplight yellow" negatives that distort scale both with graded and VC papers. Sheet sizes of TMX do have more of the yellow problem with Ilfosol, and I plan to stay with D-76 1:3 for those.(posted 8168 days ago)Bob, you said you wanted to stick with the developers you have around, but I strongly urge you to pick up some Ilfosol-S and give it a try. You won't be disappointed. It's a convenient liquid too.