I stuck this in the tech spot for want of a better place. What I'd like to know is why, when us little people tell things we know to be truths to the gurus with the sites do they blow us off? As a case in point about 2 months ago I was at Kwongs corner in geocities and was looking at his bug out kit(stuff you need to get to get by etc etc). On item 34 he had the statement, 2 canteens of water.Now don't get me wrong, I like water, I drink a lot of it. And I live where it turns to a solid for the better part of 5 months a year(OCT to MAR),ok you caught me, late oct to early mar is 5 months by me. Any way I E-mailed him with my take on this.You need a metal canteen in WINTER(Y2K HINT HINT) so if in the off chance your drinking water freezes you can toss the canteen on the fire and get liquid water vice that solid stuff which is hard to chew and does not like to come out of those little holes any canteen has. Well Ray ignored my little advice. I guess it doesn't freeze where he lives. But I've had it happen to me on three of the five past elk hunts I've done.You don't hunt, good for you.It's a hard and dirty work not for the faint of heart. But have you done any winter camping and hiking?? Yup I thought as much. SO unless you have been there and done it, watch out for the gurus.You might just know more than they do. And if you do, good for you. But If you try to tell them something they know and don't want to pass along. Guess what,you are mute.Just my humble opinion.BTW, If you worry about a drink of water in JAN, get a metal canteen so you can melt it.I'm Assuming you end up among the DP's(displaced persons).

What I'd like to know is, has any RKI(reasonably knowledgable individual) out there had the same experience? Casting the pearls among the swine so to speak.I don't care what your area was, have you been blown off?? Enquiring Minds want to know.............

-- nine (nine_fingers@hotmail.com), December 14, 1998

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Don't know about frozen water, but I agree with your philosophical point: if you ain't got a 'name', you ain't in their 'game'.

-RC

-- runway cat (runway_cat@hotmail.com), December 14, 1998.

I have found the oppisite and have had several conversations with a couple "names" via e-mail (I define a conversation as more than one e-mail on a given subject)

Rick

-- Rick Tansun (ricktansun@hotmail.com), December 14, 1998.

Fight them at their own game. Start a site of your own. You -are- a guru, on elk hunting and winter surviving. Each his/her own specialty.

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), December 14, 1998.

Two canteens of water?

What do you do on day three?

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), December 14, 1998.

Tom,

After you empty a canteen, you refill it at the next opportunity.

-- No Spam Please (anon@ymous.com), December 14, 1998.

I like that, nospam, sounds like the first principle of shotgunning "load what you shoot".

-RC

-- runway cat (runway_cat@hotmail.com), December 14, 1998.