Hate to open a new thread for this, but we don't seem to talk very much about how many supplies are stashed in huge underground warehouses. Rumors of a three-year-supply are great, but we need verification on this.

With the new Y2K awareness-suppression stance our protectors have taken, there obviously better be a whole lot stashed, or we're witnessing the pre-meditated sacrifice of a nation (and world), are we not?

I can only assume there are large amounts, because I can't believe yet that the herd would be deliberately thinned, as is Y2K-possible.

Who knows something about stockpiles?

-- Lisa (lisax@shallnot.com), January 27, 1999

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That's why Koskinen doesn't want us to buy freeze-dried food. He wants us to eat up all of those 30-year old K-Rations that have been reserved for troops in the governments basements. Now that we use cruise missiles they don't need all that food, and if they don't get rid of it soon they will be accused of feeding biological toxins to our soldiers.

-- (@@@.@), January 27, 1999.

Caves ... limecaves? ... Armageddon, or was it Deep Impact ...

-- can't remember (somewhere@brain.images), January 27, 1999.

There have been repeated post on Gary Norths boards about the gov.org stockpiling massive amounts or MRE's in the limestone caves around Kansas city. I have not seen any pictures or concrete evidence to back this up so for now it's just another urban myth to me. I don't know why you can't believe the gov.org would deliberately "thin the herd" look at what has happened around the world in just this century. Hitler, Stalin, Kmer rouge........

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), January 27, 1999.

Lets face facts.

Its as bad as we think it is.

They know that - pretty overwhelming to deal with I expect.

Whatta they going to do with millions to control and feed!!!

They know its futile.

Sure attempts will have to be made - WE ARE CIVILISED AFTER ALL.

Won't do much good for many.

Many will die.

The dust will settle.

They will reappear and order will be restored.

We shall be directed on the path to GOD knows where all over again.

Will anything be learned?

Doubt it.

-- FACE FACTS (FACE FACTS@MISSION CONTROL.com), January 27, 1999.

>Caves ... limecaves? ... Armageddon, or was it Deep Impact ...

They do exist. I have seen them. When I was a Navy Recruiter in Kansas City, a friend who was working in the supply department with the Army near there had to go there to deliver something. They are really huge! I only saw them from right outside. Huge huge caves supposedly going way back in and under the ground. At the time it was rumored that they were mostly used for private companies and storage etc. But, there was *some* military stuff there, else why would an Army supply sgt. deliver stuff there? Supplies were stored there I was told (military supplies). My friend was with the Army Reserve that was there in KC, MO. This was eons ago of course, in 1985 I think it was. Bobbi http://www.buzzbyte.com/

-- Bobbi (bobbia@slic.com), January 27, 1999.

The Kansas City caves complex is a private limestone mining operation that is leasing space in it's mined-out areas. The sheer size of the place makes large facilities practical and the heating and cooling costs are almost zero.

Last I read, there is a military activity that is a small tenant. I guess that MRE's could be stored there, but usually we got flight maps and publications shipped to us from Kansas City. The underground climate is excellent for storing paper items without expensive to buy and run humidity control systems. The Post Office's national stamp warehouse is there for the same reasons.

Most of the tenants are actually large commercial warehousing and distribution companies. Furniture storage and non-refrigerated food storage would be ideal in a place like the caves. And these companies might really be the ones storing MRE's there, while awaiting delivery to the government.

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), January 27, 1999.

I had always heard the caves were in Colorado, and in case of nuclear war the government elete could feed whoever they chose,and stay in the air for three ys.As for those MRE's, We were told they had a shelf life of three ys. I was just going to throw the main coarses away,(they were terrible when fresh!) and see if the candy is still good.(It's been 7 ys. since hurricane Iniki) The plastic spoons were a keeper, the matches,coffee,t.p. candy,and drink powder are still good.

-- justin case (jjsd@aloha.net), January 27, 1999.

If any massive storage had been going on over the last couple of years, I think it would have pushed food prices higher than they are.

-- Bill Byars (billbyars@softwaresmith.com), January 27, 1999.

Okay, so we're not sure if enough stuff is stockpiled for all of us. Or some of us.

I hear bandied around that this country has a 90-day food supply at any given time. I'd have to assume that at least a third, or maybe half, is perishable, either because it's in a freezer somewhere or is still on the hoof or wing.

Assuming this supply could be efficiently confiscated and equitably distributed (ha!), that's possibly three month's safety net for all of us that aren't preparing. Of course, there's still the heating and medication and water problems.

It's almost time to ask Koskinen exactly what private resources he was thinking of pirating. Hopefully it's food and trucks and gas. Otherwise, ... otherwise there's that one section of the constitution talking about the right to replace a system that no longer works for those contained within the system.

-- Lisa (lisax@shallnot.com), January 28, 1999.

Lisa, I'm sure the 90 food supply at any given time is quiet possible. A few years ago I remember reading an article in National Geographic about caves around the country, not just Colorado and Kansas, but in the northeast too. What I remember from the article was vast amounts of powdered milk was stored. The milk stuck to my mind, but I don't remember the other staples. There were other mentioned though.

Perhaps I could look in the attic at my collection of old NG Mags, if any still remain not all cut up by the kids.

-- Chris (catsy@pond.com), January 28, 1999.

This is still just hearsay but when I first came on the forums about 4-5 months ago there was a posting from a guy in K.C. who had a friend that was hired to unload semitrailer-trucks in the caves. He claimed to have been hired for 5 or 6 months and he worked with a group of 6 other guys.Don't know if there were other groups or not. He had the figures which I don't remember now but it had to do with how many MRI's per case,how many cases in a semi load and how many trucks they could unload in a day. I think the team of 7 could do 7 trucks in a day.Take it for what it's worth--but I don't think those MRI's are being stored for you and me!

-- sue (deco100@aol.com), January 28, 1999.

Sorry, meant MRE's and there wasn't any other kind of food mentioned.Does seem like if it was the government they would have soldiers unloading it but is there any company that would stock this many?

-- sue (deco100@aol.com), January 28, 1999.