"enemy of the state???"

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I don't know about you, but I am getting rather tired of being referred to as "an enemy of the state" simply because I am storing food and water. Does it cause a food shortage because I purchased a case of canned peaches to eat at a later date? Did we have a shortage of shoes because Emelda Marcos "stockpiled over 500 pairs? I don't think so! The shortage will come the end of 1999 when the panic hits and all the DGIs decide it is time to take precautions at the last minute. I know you all know this, I just had to blow off a little steam and there was no one else to talk to at the moment.

-- linda (smitmom@hotmail.com), March 23, 1999


linda I know what you mean. I think it's just the gub'mint trying to distract the general population away from the facts. If people with half a brain started to study this thing, all hell would break loose....earlier than expected. Sometimes I still have doubts and start to think I'm a little whacko but when I see them trying so hard to make it look like a non-event, it strengthens my commitment to prepare. Stand firm and good luck. Don't let 'em get you down.

-- (rick@ina.com), March 23, 1999.

According to FEMA and the media, WE are the problem (see these new links on Gary North's site):

FEMA Tells Americans Not to Panic or Hoard

Enemies of the People: We're the Y2K Problem, not the Computers

My wife says the government would never do something so rash as confiscate our supplies -- sorry, I wouldn't put it past them...

As for "Enemy of the People" De Jager, I sent him a nasty-gram informing HIM of HIS enemy status. (Bet I'm on his BOZO list now!)

-- Brett Blatchley (bblatchl@inmar-inc.com), March 23, 1999.


I know what you mean.

My parents were raised by depression era parents. My parents always 'stocked up' on everything. Our family of four had two fridges & a freezer and a pantry besides the kitchen packed, & this was only the food.

Last fall before I GI, I started (finally) 'stocking up' as well. I just got tired of wasting time with too many trips to the store! Now all of the sudden, this is hoarding, and stockpiling. Go figure. I thought shopping sales & buying in bulk was being a wise consumer. Hmm no, it's just plain evil.

If we finish our preps early we will be less people around frantically shopping if the masses ever do panic.

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), March 23, 1999.


Your purchases are sending market signals to producers to increase production. In essence, you are assisting procrastinators.

Keep it up and keep well,

Best wishes,

-- Watchful (seethesea@msn.com), March 23, 1999.

My wife says the government would never do something so rash as confiscate our supplies -- sorry, I wouldn't put it past them...

If our President declares a "state of emergency" , you'd be surprised what can happen to us.

Mr. K
***usually a victim of the state (just look at taxes paid versus benefits received....)***

-- Mr. Kennedy (saving@full.speed), March 23, 1999.

Been sick of it myself for awhile. Labelling and blaming has been quite en-vogue since 1992. Watching it rise to an art form as of late.

But don't fret about it. Expect it.

This is being done BY DESIGN. This propaganda is a mechanism to not only calm the populace for the time being, but gives "those in charge" a double-edged sword.

The sword being: that when the bough does finally break..it will give a scapegoat to the leadership that otherwise would be blamed for not preparing the nation. It also allows "cleansing" of those who will not conform to whatever controls are enacted to restore order and normalcy, by turning neighbors, family and community against those who aren't perceived as "contributing their fair share".

In this propaganda war; Preparation = Selfishness. This is because you are not relying on the "guv'mint" for your sustenance. You are independant. Gov'ment loses control of the masses when too many become independant and self-reliant.

Freedom. Believe it. Live it. Love it.

I think too many Americans will glady trade freedom for sustenance and security.

This is how despots and tyrants seize absolute control.

It is man's constant history.

To all our peril.

-- INVAR (gundark@aol.com), March 23, 1999.

Here's a nice article by E.L. Core on Westergaard:

Preparation is not Panic

from yesterday......

-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), March 23, 1999.

Linda: They can call me whatever they like, doesn't matter to me. However, I've got the goods and they don't! That makes me fat and happy and that makes them, well, let's just say a recipient of one of those body bags. Don't concern yourselves with any of these names they like to attach to us. Hell, the Mormons have been stockpiling for over 100 years and I don't hear the government calling them names. I think I'll go buy some more rice and flour today.

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), March 23, 1999.

It would be one thing if the government could say with a straight face that there was no need for people to stockpile. However, Koskinen made it very clear at the mega press conference a couple weeks ago that individual prep was an exceedingly prudent idea, he just wasn't sure how far existing supplies could be spread around. Not that that is a valid argument for something like a wood stove or a generator or water. (How do you hoard water?)

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), March 23, 1999.


(off topic)

Were you the person looking for books about German Jews/ WWII what were they thinking/who left/who stayed/why? I know a book, I forget who was looking, can't find the thread!!

Well, my e-mail address is real for whoever was looking for books on that topic.

-- Deborah, (infowars@yahoo.com), March 23, 1999.

Linda: You ARE an enemy of the state. Anyone who thinks for themself; anyone who seeks to even minimize, much less eliminate, their dependency on the state; anyone who questions the veracity, motives, and authority of the state; etc. -- is an enemy of the state.

"We're not in Kansas anymore". This government (state) is not the government envisioned by the founders. Most people are DGI/DWGI in this regard. This government wants and needs a stupid, ignorant, apathetic, dependent population to maintain its power.

-- A (A@AisA.com), March 23, 1999.

My wife says the government would never do something so rash as confiscate our supplies -- sorry, I wouldn't put it past them...

We have had "national emergencies" before. I forget the exact numbers, but about 1932, Roosevelt had everyone turn in their gold (with some execptions) under pain of jail and fines, at (?) $28/oz. Then he turned right around and raised the price to (?) $32/oz. He confiscated -- there is no other term for it -- that difference in before and after prices.

And what, may I ask, is the present "asset forfeiture" scam if not confiscation?

-- A (A@AisA.com), March 23, 1999.


Thank you! I'll look at it from that perspective and wear the title proudly!

-- linda (smitmom@hotmail.com), March 23, 1999.

Bardou, it might matter to you when the stormtroopers come knocking on your door.

-- Nope (not@thistime.com), March 23, 1999.

Deborah: No, I wasn't the one looking for the book you spoke about.

Nope: Only if they can find me, besides, the stormtroopers will be invading Yugoslavia. The tide turns quickly in this world doesn't it?

-- bardou (bardou@baloney.com), March 23, 1999.

I think Uncle Bill would not lead us wrong? North Eastren Me. Atm's broken monday am. Gas price? Can't I by food on sale??

-- tooldfor this (isthis@foreall.com), March 23, 1999.

linda, Let me give you my definition of "stockpiling" and "hoarding" : Stockpiling is Planned Preparation - alot of thought goes into what you decide to buy and store for use next year, including deciding what you are NOT going to buy. Hoarding is unplanned, panic buying with no thought whatsoever as to what you would use, instead it grabs whatever it can because of fear.

My parents were, and still are, farmers. When I and my siblings were growing up on the farm, my mother canned, bought supplies when she could, and ended up with a year's supply of food every year for that event known as winter. No one thought we were crazy - just the opposite. We were a family of six, so believe me, there was plenty to store for eating in the winter. Fact is, that was the basics of what we had to eat in the winter. Don't feel bad. Remember, you do what you want to make your family prepared and safe - and ignore the others. I don't know if you are a Christian, but I am. In Proverbs 22:3 it says "The wise person sees danger and prepares, but the foolish do nothing and suffer the consequences." You are wise to prepare - all of us GI's are! And we will be blessed for it!

-- luann (flataufm@hutchtel.net), March 23, 1999.

I want to underscore the point that Watchful made in reference to the BENEFITS of stockpiling early in the game. We are sending signals to the economy to ramp up on the items that the DGI's will be clamoring for in a few months.

I'm not holding my breath waiting for a "Good Citizen Award" from John Koskinen's office, however.

-- Sara Nealy (keithn@ptd.net), March 24, 1999.

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