I'm new at this so please cut me some slack if I make alot of mistakes.I've been a-lurking around on this excellant forum for the past several months.Have met some very interesting folks so to speak!At any rate,YES,I am a GI! That's strange I just got the feeling that I was participating in an "AA" meeting! But don"t we feel so much better now? Not trying to poke any fun at anyone. I have seen how some folks get very excited and the like.What I've been wondering about is this,Is your astrology sign any indication that you GI or DGI? Maybe I'm out in left field so to speak,we all know how us Doomster's have been labeled from time to time!For what it's worth I am an Aquarius, born Feb.16 '58 "WHOOPS" I'm not in compliance there! I mean Feb.16 1958! Just curious and thought I would ask.

Just want to say thanks to a few of the regulars for the helpful hints and suggestions,Old GIT,Gayla Dunbar,Art Welling,Robert A. Cook,and all of the rest, even DieTER!

-- Semper Fi (etl@stc.net), April 27, 1999

Answers

Me, I am a Virgo, and I got it nearly immediately as I read my first good explaination of the widespread impact. It took some convincing to get Hubby to get it, about four months. He's a Cancer.

-- Arewyn (nordic@northnet.net), April 27, 1999.

Virgo, GI, almost immediately.

Astrology? Codswallop!

-- Max Dixon (mcdixon@konnections.com), April 27, 1999.

Semper Fi...There is Western (conventional) Astrology and Chinese Astrology. Many consider the first one more valid than the second. I consider both very valid. I have studied Chinese Astrology since 1979 and Western Astrology since the mid 80's. When you integrate them both, you will get alot clearer picture regarding the person(s) you are investigating.

In regard to Y2K, it may be slightly challenging to deciper the effects. You may need to consider first through environmental factors whether or not the subject had experienced life challenges from early childhood to the young adult phase. If indeed trust and nurturing took place within a family of the person who (where I might add) saw life in a modern day context, where govt. will take care of them and all is well, I suppose there is a tendency (no matter what sign they are) to continue the faith in the systems ability to cope with Y2K challenges. On the other hand, if an alternative family was also instilling trust with nurturing attributes yet were not trusting of govt. and the ability of beaurocracy to cope with the matter, there certainly may be a leaning toward G.I. status. If indeed the subject had experiences where trust was questionable or blatantly negative experiences regarding trust, because govt. has proven itself as somewhat questionable in it's own standing, I would suppose the subject would lean toward G.I. status. Exposure to the internet is a viable reason for G.I. status, in and of itself, while the previous guidelines will affect the subjects tendencies toward it (G.I. status). Those who do not experience the internet may remain puppies or pollyanna's of the modern day world. It all depends on the people the associate with and the above guidelines.

Now, with all that in mind, figure in the Astrological implications. From a Western Astrological point of view, many of the positively stemmed signs in the zodiac tend toward enthusiasm and a leaning toward ensuring that way of life. Action oriented enthusiasm (fire signs) ie. Aries, Leo and sagittarius; communicative enthusiasm (air signs) ie. gemini, libra and aquarius. These signs have a tendency to overlook the bad and keep headed toward the good things in life. Aries and Libra's (Cardinal signs) may lead the pack toward this philosophy simply because they break inertia daily to act and live up to these personal standards. Leo and aquarius (fixed signs) are more cautious by nature and tend not to trust everything they see or hear, which means they could lean toward G.I. status moreso than aries or libra's, which may not be much. Gemini and Sagittarius (mutable signs) are very flexible and even though they are positively positioned by nature, there could be a possibility for them to get a whiff of Y2K and become influenced by other G.I.'s. There still would be a tendency for them to waiver back and forth from Polly and G.I. status. The negatively stemmed signs are more practical and emmotional by nature. The practical signs (earth signs) are taurus, virgo and capricorn; the emotionally inclined signs (water signs) are cancer, scorpio and pisces. These signs exist moreso in the trenches than the positively stemmed signs. Cancer and Capricorn (cardinal signs) are active homemakers and planners. G.I. status could become second hand because they have a tendency to have a head start on it whether Y2k exists or not. Taurus and scorpio (fixed signs) are also cautious. there may be a stumbling block there for taurus wanting to keep money involved in stocks and the rythm thereof. Of course consumers insurance may also attract this one too. The scorpio will investigate and will become a G.I. after suspicion has surfaced. Virgo and pisces (mutable signs) have a tendency to go either way. It all depends on those around them and how they are influenced. Virgo's may lean toward G.I. status more readily since computer programming is up their ally. Pisces may want to be a doormat unless life has provided enough of that for them. Chinese Astrology is another matter. Rats are clannish and protective of the brood. They are frugal by nature and tend to hoard anyway. Oxes are intellectual and potentially militant and may lean toward G.I. status. Tigers are rebellious. They may rebell against govt. and become G.I.'s or you may tell them That Y2K will be bad and they will rebell toward D.G.I. status as a result. Rabbits (cats) are very docile and diplomatic. Anything that looks ugly will repell them. Y2k happens to be one of those things they will steer away from if at all possible. Dragons may or may not involve themselves, they are gullable. They are pioneers too. Snakes are paranoid and skeptical.They also could go either way. Horses are high risk takers and very intellegent. They will go either way. Sheep will follow the leader.It all depends who the leader is. Monkeys are clever and behind the scenes players.This may result in you never knowing their position. Roosters are highly driven and intellegent people. They are practical and may lean toward G.I. status. There is a rigidity too which may keep them where they stand. Dogs are skeptical and loyal. It all depends on which side they are loyal too in the beginning. Boars are intuitive and relaxed. They may sense trouble intuitively or be too relaxed to involve themselves.

All in all, it is a challenge to really know where someone stands. You need to dig into their psyche deep enough to be able to gather enough information. I hope any of this has been helpful for you to get a better perspective on the Astrological implications of Y2K.

Right now, this is the year of the Earth rabbit. The only signs that will stay long enough to influence this phenomena this year are: Uranus in Aquarius which signifies change. Saturn in Taurus which will indicate a materialistic outlook applied in social structure and work structure. Mars has an extended placement in Scorpio which will create more war like nature on the assertive will. These three signs all form a square with each other (not a lovely trine) which indicates a mixing of cautious energies that do not mesh well. I am hoping that people can focus during this year and not be distracted by all the different paths these signs are pushing for. Get plenty of exercise and try not to hold in all the tension native to these signs.

Sincerely, Feller

-- Feller (Feller@wanna.help), April 27, 1999.

Me, I'm a Virgo and GI immediately. Neighbor also a Virgo and a GI. We're working together on pooling our resources. My husband is Aquarius - slowly but surely getting it.

-- Angelface (lurking@around.com), April 27, 1999.

correction Taurus and scorpio are also fixed signs as are Leo and Aquarius...not implying Cancer and Capricorn are.

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), April 27, 1999.

correction Taurus and scorpio are also fixed signs as are Leo and Aquarius...not implying Cancer and Capricorn are.

Feller

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), April 27, 1999.

"Recently, someone asked me if I believed in astrology. He seemed somewhat puzzled when I explained that the reason I don't is that I'm a Gemini." --- Raymond Smullyan, 5000 B.C. and other Philosophical Fantasies

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), April 27, 1999.

Read This

-- Sabrina (sabrina@teenage.witch), April 27, 1999.

Veddy in-ter-resting...

Just for the record...

Me - Aquarius, Internet access, GI

Family members -

Virgo, Internet access, GI,

Pisces w/Aquarius spouse, no Internet access, GI,

Sagittarius w/Libra spouse, no Internet access, DGI

Sagittarius w/Leo spouse, Internet access, DGI

Taurus w/Pisces spouse, Internet access, DGI

-- nope (not@thistime.com), April 27, 1999.

Western (conventional) Astrology ...
Sun: Gemini
Moon: Aries
Rising: Sagittarius

Chinese Astrology ...
Dragon

Diane

(Greetings & chuckles, Mac!)

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), April 27, 1999.

I assume you are referring only to our sun signs.However, we are a combination of our sun sign, our moon sign, and our rising sign plus where our planets are located and we might be on the cusp exhibiting characteristics of 2 signs.

Me - Sag. internet GI

Spouse- Aries- semi(?)-internet GI

Daughter- Leo internet DGI

Daughter- Virgo learning-internet Coming around maybe

Son Virgo internet GI

Son Aries internet DGI

Son Virgo Internet GI

Aunt Virgo non-internet DGI but coming around.

Friend Cancer non-internet DGI

-- sue (deco100@aol.com), April 27, 1999.

I wonder lots whether being first-born is a heavy factor...

Sun: Capricorn Moon: Gemini Asc: Cancer Mercury: Sag. Chinese: Fire Horse.

I have two grand crosses, so, naturally, I expect trouble.

Also would expect those with Mercury in fixed signs (Taurus, Scorpio, Aquarius) to be least jumpy regarding Y2K.

-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), April 27, 1999.

G.I.!

Western Astrology: (Sun: Scorpio Year of the Metal Rat (1960)

whatever decade you were born in 0,1=metal. 2,3=water. 4,5=wood. 6,7= fire. 8,9=earth

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), April 27, 1999.

ROFL

Grasping at straws to figure out why you GI and others don't!!!???

ROFL

-- Doomslayer (1@2.3), April 27, 1999.

(Diane, stealing your format)

Western (conventional) Astrology ... Sun: Cancer Moon: Sagittarius Rising: Libra

Chinese Astrology ... Rat (Cancer + Rat = natural stockpiler and hoarder?)

Third born

GI 7

Mercury conjunct Saturn on midheaven in Cancer = serious sense of responsibility, tend to emotional doom/gloom (saved by Moon in Sagittarius - optimist)

Eighth-house Venus in Taurus trine Jupiter in twelfth house = optimism, complacency, counts on good outcomes

Eighth-house Mars square Pluto; Moon opp. Uranus = contrarian, rebel

All above are true of me. Astrology gets complicated ...!

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), April 27, 1999.

Feller,

... "whatever decade you were born in 0,1=metal. 2,3=water. 4,5=wood. 6,7= fire. 8,9=earth."

Is that known as "decade by ba-gua?"

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), April 27, 1999.

How foolish you all are. Regular visitors to psychics and ufo forums?

-- Rick (Rick@rick.rick), April 27, 1999.

Get-A-Grip Rick, look around, ... this ain't schtick Half a million PC's went down

BC wants to take the guns today The Markets still sellin' our kids future away

50,000 civilians get to go play war in Machiavellian Europe.... Don't be such a Boor

So if we digress just a little bit Why bemoan us and lablel us fools Eat S...!!!

Sorry, just a little stressed I guess.

-- spun@lright (mikeymac@uswest.net), April 27, 1999.

Hey, guys, Western and Chinese are not the only systems of astrology. I practice Vedic Astrology, probably the world's original science. In practice around 6,000 years. From the world's oldest writings, the Vedas. (Scriptures from India.)

-- Shivani Arjuna (odnsmall@aol.com), April 27, 1999.

I've been a GI longer than most here.

I was born under the sign that said "No Smoking Oxygen in Use"

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), April 27, 1999.

ROFL

Good one Greybear

-- Doomslayer (1@2.3), April 27, 1999.

I'm a Sag Sun, Capricorn Moon, Leo Ascendant, with a very close Sun-Uranus opposition...

I think the Saturn-Uranus square forming is significant. Uranus is associated with: new technology, generators, machines, unusual occurances, unrest, and upset or revolution. It is in the sign of Aquarius, which it "rules", associated with: airplanes, broadcasting, telephones, electricity...

Saturn, of course, is symbolic of failures, restrictions, losses, negligence, poverty, punishment, and hard times...and it is in Taurus while forming the square to Uranus. Taurus is an earth sign, and is associated with material possessions, money, banks, securities, and so on.

Any of you who care to check an ephemeris might be interested to check and see when the Saturn-Uranus square will be at it's closest... those of you who don't have access to one can probably make a good guess!

Lots of people say astrology is bunkum, of course... Just in case it isn't though, how do we best make use of these energies come the first of the year?

Take care, all..

-- housemouse (jgj@nevermind.net), April 27, 1999.

Not sure about Lunar but Sun- Taurus/Aries cusp (23rd) Libra Rising.

Bride- double Leo, rising unknown have to check with Mom-in-law (also a double Leo) She's the astrologer in family. And, yes, life is interesting when you get a Bull and a Lion together.

chuck

-- chuck, a Night Driver (rienzoo@en.com), April 27, 1999.

me, sun in capricorn, GI. hubby, sun in cancer, GI. of course the sun signs are basically useless as tools by themselves. but take a survey if you enjoy it. the most skeptical family members are all virgos, by the way.

-- jocelyne slough (jonslough@tln.net), April 28, 1999.

Diane... 0,1=metal 2,3=water 4,5=wood 6,7=fire 8,9= earth

1900= metal rat 1912= water rat 1924= wood rat 1936= fire rat 1948= earth rat 1960= metal rat 1972= water rat 1984= wood rat 1996= fire rat....sorry to go on and on.

There are 12 animals (signs)and 5 varieties...each has an interesting relationship to the western counterpart...specifically the saturn cycle. notice all water years (highly communicative) correspond to saturn being in a air sign (also highly communicative) during that particular year. Chinese astrology has mentioned people born during water years to be highly communicative. Only during this century has the saturn cycle lined up and correlated to magnify this communicative quality in people and the times. If you do some research you will find this to be true. You also may find the other interesting correlations specific to that element (chinese year) and the specific saturn signs element. Saturn is powerful in that it is how one integrates into social structure and work structure, which basically indicates how one fits into society and their personal philosophy of that fitting relationship to others. Three examples:People with Saturn in Aries...carpe diem.....keep moving and if you get bored...move on. People with Saturn in Capricorn (native sign) are very dedicated to their work...building upon knowledge to build more and more and.... People with Saturn In Libra: have a very social application to work...communication is most important here within work structure. Notice that all roaring social phases...roaring 20's, roaring 50's, roaring 80's ...they all begin with Saturn in Libra and fizzle out with Saturn's end of Sagittarius.

sincerely, Feller

-- Feller (Feller@wanna.help), April 29, 1999.

Well according to my astrologer friend, I have four planets in Virgo (including Sun), three planets in Scorpio (including Mars and Venus), Aries rising and Taurus moon, a grand trine and a grand cross square (whatever these mean).

He didn't say whether or not this made me a "GI" for Y2K. He did say it explained beautifully why I was such a pain in the butt. ;-) Guess that's the kind of thing only an astrologer would find the humor in.

PJ in TX

-- PJ Gaenir (fire@firedocs.com), April 29, 1999.