Decker

You have now displayed a total lack of thought process in posting the critique of Eds departure. Do you have family? have you raised a child. You never did answer the question. You may have noticed that Ed mentioned his wife has health problems. He is conserned for his family. You on the other hand are trying for noteriety and to make a name for yourself. Ed Alerted folks to the problem, gave us plenty of free info and allowed this fantastic form to be developed so conserned people can prepare with his name on the top. I would not choose to do this.

I have no doubt that he could have made way more money on the internet. Now I am not a hero worshiper, I have one focus and that is for folks to prepare for a problem. Yesterday my COUNTRY, Canada released recommendations in regards to Y2K. The last recommendation (below) states quite clearly what Ed suggests. Prepare. What part of this do you not understand? The Canadian Armed Forces have aloted $$380,000,000 (thats hundreds of millions) to the contingency planning of our country. If one looked at the per capita spending equivenlant to the States you folk should be alloting close to $4 BILLION on contingency planning. What is the amount alloted???? For the States? A big fat ZERO!!!!! (I could stand corrected). I don't blame Ed for bailing.

Listen folks. Figure it out. In Canada our government has made preparing for failure a Number one priority since last summer.

Decker you and your polly friends are not responsible citizens, a matter of fact if you were a Canadian I would be extremely harsh on my judgement of you. In public. Rather than attack and belittle be constructive.

By the way US folk the Canadian Government figures it will have cost 2 billion dollars to fix our systems. You folks would be looking at 20 billion dollars. How much has your government shelled out? Oh and Revenue Canada didn't even need a comprehensive work over as they went to 4 digit years in 1988. How is your IRS doing?? Solving the problem with pencil and paper?

Pollies go stick your heads back in the sand. Yours is a lack of vision and or setting your own agendas. I am sad that you choose to shoot the messagers than deal with the message.

By the way, why do you folk go to a prep. forum. Go to CSY2K and have some real guts. We are backwater compared to them. If you would like to be an idiot do it on the big stage. Leave us alone.

Anyway folks this is what the head Y2K watch dogs in Canada are saying.

Recommendation 8

That all organizations, both public and private, that do not have comprehensive contingency and business resumption plans prepare them immediately.

This means you.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), June 02, 1999

Answers

Well said !!!

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), June 02, 1999.

Brian, why don't you get off it. Decker is entitled to his opinion and he's also entitled to voice it. Yourdon is entitled to quit and owes no one an explanation. I'm a polly but I probably know more about Y2K than you do. I have a different opinion of how things will turn out; got a problem with that then that's just too f'ing bad. Get over it. You haven't proven your hypothesis so put up or shut up.

-- Maria (anon@ymous.com), June 02, 1999.

Hey, "put up or shut up" I'm waiting to hear YOUR proof! As a matter of fact, I believe we were supposed to have seen the "proof" of many, TWICE before THIS upcoming "third strike"! What month are you living in Maria?

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 02, 1999.

All pollys, I'm convinced, think its still 1995. Their posts always imply that there is still plenty of time to fix things, no-big-deal.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), June 02, 1999.

Good points Brian.

Canada has been far more responsible in openly preparing it's citizens. Wish our leaders could have learned something.

*Sigh*

And, BTW, you know plently about Y2K. So do most of us.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), June 02, 1999.

Brian, why don't you get off it. Decker is entitled to his opinion and he's also entitled to voice it.

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And so am I

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Yourdon is entitled to quit and owes no one an explanation.

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This is very true

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I'm a polly but I probably know more about Y2K than you do.

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HHHMMMMM I like the prep stuff better than Y2K challange.

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I have a different opinion of how things will turn out; got a problem with that then that's just too f'ing bad. Get over it. You haven't proven your hypothesis so put up or shut up.

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Maria you are right, I have little comp skills and can't fix the problem so there is little reason to worry about the problem.

I am from the other side on this matter Maria. I have lived in isolation on a lake in the Arctic. Life was allot differant, makes rural seem urban. One TV station and radio station (CBC :o), radio phone, out house, desiel and one hell of a lifestyle. It tought me a reverance to the natural order. And in all nature of things social now a days there is little understanding of the risk that nature holds. Now it would just be a real drag if during the rollover that a city such as Chicago has power failure and there is some kind of Arctic Storm rolling through. It doesn't have to be Chicago, could be anywhere anytime.

I will spare you the details of what it is like to be cold, I have done that many times on the forum. You understand Y2K? and I understand nature, will you please assure me that my sister will get natural gas? She lives in Edmonton and it gets damm cold up there.

Now if Y2K is hype and my sister won't consider what to do to help her and the two girls. Nothing special just another night in a year. Now the power or gas might stop or it might not. But the bets are on for an increased risk.

Would you like to take the responcibility for recommending that y2k is an event for common preparation?

Ed advicated preparing, said he was conserned for his family in the most public domain in the land then bows out to get back to reality and he gets Deckers treatment

Ken may have a point and he may not have a point. It is the forum that he chose, the manner in which he did it, and it strikes at the pricipal of the reason the bulk of us are here.

Understanding the problem and preparing for it. So that my sister and other people can go and find out if they are at risk no matter where they are, no matter how old (or young) they are.

Maria you are not talking to a doomer. You have no idea.

Ken has my e addy, he knows I have an opinion.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), June 02, 1999.

Diane

Canada is differant from the States. You can't have power systems and what not failing. There is no option. So the Goverment goes to the forces and tells them to see what they can do and do it. The US would be livid and think their rights will get trampled and us Canadians shrug our shoulder. The army already had a high profile y2k exercise complete with the commander on TV in my home town. Well now they are handing out Y2K info in the food stores. In the states you folk are told to stock up 3 days, here a week (offical) but the paper had an article that said a month or two. Everyone knows of it and my daughter (19) says the kids parents are stocking up (the kids know eh). We live on a ocean, have gravity fed water, agriculture, most houses have wood heat, frontier background (redneck), more bush than anyone could ever care to have, and people are concerned and preparing.

I think having the authority of the forces involved was a good idea as they are impartial and are in the game of risk management.

The US though has a much greater focus on business and economic stability, this concerns me about Canada. The Banks and the Government "got it" so we will see.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), June 02, 1999.