For an indication of what our cities will be like if there's a breakdown -- take a look at what they're like right now:

http://www.amren.com/hell.htm

If you're staying in New York you must have death wish.

-- far (away@all.costs), June 05, 1999

Answers

why did you post this on two threads?two different email(bogus) addresses so it's obviously intentional.anattempt to corelate racism and g.i. behavior,perhaps?

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), June 05, 1999.

Nice to know that white supremecy and Y2K fit together in perfect harmony.

-- Pat (BAMECW@aol.com), June 05, 1999.

Link: Manhattan Transfer

-- Sandmann (Sandmann@alasbab.com), June 05, 1999.

Relax Pat.

Black friend is the only other GI in my neighborhood.

I look foreward to benefiting from his skills and he from mine.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), June 05, 1999.

Pat again,

Don't let my birth name fool you. I'm as German,Swede,Fin & French as any smorgasboard American could be.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), June 05, 1999.

Above was just a comment on what is found to be as the norm on this board. Unfortunately I don't see anyone that denounces that piece of ideological trash either.

Sighh.

-- Pat (BAMECW@aol.com), June 05, 1999.

Pat,

It is a LIE to say that blacks don't commit MANY MORE VIOLENT CRIMES than whites.

It is a LIE to say that sub-suharan African culture has produced much of value, excluding some music and art.

The racists have a point, although it is not a pretty one.

However, like you, I have no desire to see Y2K, or anything else turn into a racial blood-bath. War is hell.

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@Anonymous99.xxx), June 05, 1999.

The double posting was due to a server error. Sorry.

As usual, no one disputes the CONTENT of the article, because it's so obviously indisputable. Instead, they merely dismiss it as "racist."

So it goes.

-- far (away@all.costs), June 05, 1999.

Because Far, anyone that can hold that type of view and goes to write a story does not care about actual facts. The story was written to help get a viewpoint across that Afican-Americans are savages that depend on brute violence, and will attack anyone for no reason. The story is so filled with propoganda for whoever wrote this. A good guy goes out to make a living, is oppressed, then wins in the end. In the simplest term, BS!

And everyone out there that sympathises with a racial viewpoint please remember. The white power movement also does not like anyone who is Catholic, Jewish, Islamic, Anglican, Buddhist, Celtic, or anyone else that does not fit a very narrow perfect image.

-- Pat (BAMECW@aol.com), June 05, 1999.

"A good guy goes out to make a living, is oppressed, then wins in the end."

He wasn't a "good guy", just a Hungarian immigrant. He wasn't oppressed at any point in the story. And he didn't win, he just eventually left the job & moved on.

As for the rest of your criticism, you may be right, but I tend to believe someone who claims that he was repeatedly spat upon & had rocks thrown at him, especially if it happened in certain part of New York City. Or perhaps you believe such a statement ONLY if it's made by a person of color?

-- far (away@etc.etc), June 05, 1999.

Of course not Far. Anyone is capable of being harassed. But the forum that this story does appear places the story in a very poor light if that is not what the author ment the story to be.

-- Pat (BAMECW@aol.com), June 05, 1999.

Look, Pat, back when you were a "somebody" on Saturday Night Live, you were pretty comical, and I never could figure out what gender you were. I just knew that you were white, fat and butt-ugly.

But you can't expect to play the race card in the same way, you have to change with the times, pal. Err, maam. Uh ... whatever. I guess, just plain troll will do quite well.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), June 05, 1999.

RACISM

Daniel Attila's essay, "Hell on Wheels," is one little racist's rant on black Americans. I dispute the accuracy of this testament of fear and loathing. It is obvious that the unwritten conclusions to which Daniel hopes his reader will arrive at (blacks are savages, etc.) is the implicit engine that drives his descriptions and his memory (if this has any relation to real life experience). Daniel's own distorted descriptions, however, reveals an unusual attention to supposed numbers of African Americans, supposed incidents of black violence, supposed violent and potentially violent situations that he personally encountered, etc. Everywhere, he sees only African Americans. He sees them all around. And they are closing in on him. Daniel has delusions.

DELUSIONAL PARANOIA

The black bureaucrat who asks a question about a supposed incident of violence is making a note on a piece of paper (.... most likely about Daniel, Daniel had thought). Daniel writes: "As I advanced, the people seemed to move closer to the train, gradually narrowing the path until it became too narrow for me to pass without touching them." Did they move closer to Daniel or did they just *seem* to move closer to the train? He continues: "Then I saw hands reaching out to grab me and fists aimed to punch me." But how did Daniel manage to slip by all the grabbing, angry hands and the many flying fists? How did he outrun all those people that supposedly meant to do him harm? Did he only imagine them? Then, Daniel starts making his way through the cars.

EPISODE

Though all the cars had open exit doors supposedly with angry African Americans standing just outside these doors(and all of these black people supposedly wanting to do him great injury and harm), Daniel makes his way through two cars and past heavy doors between the cars without any incident. "Meanwhile, the crowd seemed about to follow me into the train," he writes. But this angry mob of African Americans did not follow him, they did not intercept him, they did not knock him down and tear him apart. Meanwhile, Daniel had hid himself behind the locked doors of the conductor's cab until the police arrived. It must have been the longest wait of his life. Lucky for Daniel that the police got there in half an hour or he might have been killed. Not!

FALSE CONSCIOUSNESS

But Daniel Attila does not just fear and loathe black Americans, he thinks that Hispanics are a problem too. And his little rant does not show up just anywhere on the Internet, it happens to be published on the web site of the American Renaissance, an obvious race-baiting rag that features such dixie-whistling separationists as Jared Taylor. Furthermore, while some on this forum might be reluctant to criticize the "personal experience" and "personal account" of another, this does not mean that they share Daniel's experience, his beliefs, his fears, or his delusions. They are merely un-accustomed to criticizing a false consciousness. In fact, if you find my previous thread on racism in the forum archives, you'll see that this forum is not run by racists.

Sincerely, Stan Faryna

-- Stan Faryna (info@giglobal.com), June 05, 1999.

God made all of us equal before Him. "What you are is God's gift to you; what you make of it is your gift to Him."

All brothers and sisters of all races, colors, religions, creeds:
Y2K is about the result of mechanical computational errors. It will be bad enough without rubbing in human errors. Let's focus on preparation and solutions.

God is watching all of us. Y2K will be a test. Let all those who see the ramifications unite in harmony and try to help one another. We are a small enough group as is, without any further divisions.
Concentrate on what is important; time is running out.

xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 05, 1999.

Run for your lives! The Y2K is coming! Run for your lives!

-- We'll never make it...we'll (all@be.killed), June 05, 1999.

-- ($@$.$), June 05, 1999.

The cities will have the highest priority for essential services.

-- . (*@-.*), June 05, 1999.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

" The cities will have the highest priority for essential services."

I promise you thier wont be anyone, ANYONE, come Y2k saying "man,they sure have it good in the cities, I wonder how long it would take me to walk to down-town New York to get a gal of water and a cup of soup." Yeah, they will be sitting on easy street all right.

I understand not everyone can be out in the country, but the more GI that are the better off we will all be.

Bulldog

-- bulldog (sniffin@around.com), June 05, 1999.

King of Spain, don't challenge my manhood. To steal a quote from my favorite face promoter(Bischoff sucks) Vincent K McMahon.

"I have balls the size of grapefruits."

-- Pat (BAMECW@aol.com), June 05, 1999.

JBD? Hasn't the swelling gone down yet?

-- grapefruit (sureistaking@long.time), June 05, 1999.

".. I dispute the accuracy of this testament of fear and loathing. "

Well, of COURSE you do, Stan.

Had "this testament" been written by a black person, about his/her near escape from murderous whites, then you would have found it -- very obviously -- completely true, & it would have been published all over the mainstream press.

Whatever. Thank God for the Internet.

-- believe (whatever@you.like), June 05, 1999.

I'm confused. Is am "African-American" half African, and half American?

-- A. Hambley (a.hambley@usa.net), June 05, 1999.

believe,

Do you also read my destiny in the Tarot cards, tea leaves, and stars? (laughing) I will thank you very much for presuming to know my mind and how I would respond to someone else's personal account-- be that person white, black, yellow, red, or green) In fact, you might get a better sense of me by reading all the praise for my book, "Black and Right." It will surprise even you. At least, you (sir or ma'am) have my sincere most condolences for this embarassing lack of cleverness.

What is obvious is that you share the same kind of false consciousness of that so-called liberal black group think that you hold in contempt. Your vitriolic criticism reflects your own mean mind set. Whether you realize it or not, you are see things everywhere that are, in fact, not everywhere. Like your good friend, Daniel, you seem to think that everyone (the media, for example) is in cohoots with a sinister black propaganda. Then, you thank God. Why? Were you delivered from an evil?

Unlike you, I don't hide behind an anonymous signature and email. But, again, I'm not paranoid schizophrenic like your good friend, Daniel, and so I have no need for such precautions as you take. Nor can you hide your wickedness behind the Truth, the Beauty, and the Goodness that shines down from the Cross. Do not thank God for the increase of your wickedness; you are to blame for your own evil ways. But God gave you the grace to break from this hatred that blinds you to Life.

God renew you! Stan Faryna

P.S. My many apologies to the Moderators for this troublesome rant. I believe this thread and its other should have been deleted at the outset. Nevertheless, it is never not late to delete the two threads.

-- Stan Faryna (info@giglobal.com), June 06, 1999.