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S. Korean warships in N. Korea waters again

Pyongyang, June 16 (KCNA) -- The South Korean authorities today infiltrated warships into the north side's territorial waters off its west coast, military sources reported. At around 08:00 seven warships of South Korea intruded in battle array deep into the north side's territorial waters off Kangryong county, South Hwanghae Province. Later, they were joined by four more ships at around 08:30. Worse still, brasshats of the "ROK" army ordered their group of warships in waters off Yonphyong islets to secure in advance the "destruction" area and rapidly go into "charge" and fire at patrol ships of the navy of the Korean People's Army, if they move on a patrol duty. On this instruction the enemy's warships intruded into the north side's territorial waters and desperately attempted to intentionally disturb our navy ships on a routine duty. This provocation is now leading Korea to a touch-and-go situation in which a war might break out any moment.

-- Look (Watch@listen.com), June 17, 1999


There you people go again. Worrying about war or nuclear war when we've got Gun Control and Bills legacy to worry about. Plus -- Will Hilary run? What color dresses should she wear (discussed recently on Larry King)?

-- Jon Johnson (narnia4@usa.net), June 17, 1999.

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6/17/99 -- 12:09 PM

Reports: North Korea missile could reach the United States

TOKYO (AP) - North Korea is preparing to test launch an upgraded ballistic missile with a range of up to 3,700 miles - long enough to reach Alaska, news reports said Thursday.

The hard-line Stalinist state has been conducting propulsion tests on a long-range Taepodong-2 missile, Japanese national broadcaster NHK reported, quoting unidentified U.S. military sources.

The Pentagon on Thursday would not comment on the report. ``We routinely monitor North Korea,'' a Pentagon official said on condition of anonymity.

Separately, Kyodo News reported late Wednesday that the North has enlarged the launch pad for its Taepodong missile and is transporting fuel to the facility.

There are no indications that a launch is imminent, but Japan believes secretive North Korea could test the new version of its Taepodong missile as early as July, Kyodo said, citing anonymous Japanese officials.

Pyongyang rattled nerves in Asia and the United States in August last year by test firing a Taepodong-1 missile that flew over Japan and landed in the Pacific Ocean.

That rocket was a two-stage missile and is believed to have had a range of about 1,000 miles. Experts believe that the North's new ballistic missile is a much more powerful three-stage projectile, Kyodo said.

In a separate report, the conservative Sankei newspaper said Thursday that the North's new missile has an estimated range of over 2,200 miles.

Japan's Nihon Keizai newspaper reported in its morning edition Wednesday that U.S. satellite images and South Korean intelligence reports show that the North is preparing a ballistic missile launch.

The report came a day after gunboats from North and South Korea exchanged fire in the Yellow Sea, escalating tensions between the rival states.


OT: Just heard on local news in NW 6:45pm Korea's engage in naval battle exchange!

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.


-- al-d. (catt@zianet.com), June 17, 1999.

Nostradamus' only specifically dated prophecy:
The Prophecy: (Century 10 - Quatrain 72)

The year 1999, the seventh month, from the sky will come a great King of Terror:
Resuscitating the great King of the Mongols, Before and after Mars to reign Happily.

Genghis Khan
circa 1162-1227 Mongol conqueror; consolidated nomadic tribes into a unified Mongolia; created an empire extending from China to Europe's Adriatic Sea.
Looking at a map, that includes parts of Korea, China, Mongolia, Russia, Yugoslavia, etc.

Launch of nuclear weapons between July and September 1999 will revive joining of above countries as allies in war.

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Here is an update on the Kosovo talks between Russia and Nato/US:


MOSCOW, June 17 (Reuters) - Interfax news agency quoted Russian delegation sources at Kosovo talks in Helsinki as saying Russian foreign and defence ministers cancelled a meeting with their U.S. counterparts on Thursday and planned to fly to Moscow.

Interfax said Igor Ivanov and Igor Sergeyev decided against meeting U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Defence Secretary William Cohen after Moscow's demand of a separate sector in Kosovo was rejected. Itar-Tass news agency carried a similar report.

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-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), June 17, 1999.

Launch of nuclear weapons between July and September 1999 will revive joining of above countries as allies in war.

Your turn.

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Perhaps on August 1st, we can have a humble apology from the Nostradamus fan club........

Please, oh please, don't do the JW thing and re-interpret the date when August comes around.......it's already been done countless times and makes the false prophets look even sillier......

-- Craig (craig@ccinet.ab.ca), June 17, 1999.

The 7th month of 1999 can either be July or September. Don't know if we believe any of it or not, but it's worth watching. The only dated prophecy, and we're lucky enough to see or not see. Interesting times. We will celebrate very happily if nothing unusual has happened along these lines by Halloween (end of October). Even more celebration if nothing unusual has happened by April 2000 !!

We are skeptical and curious, and don't mind watching the signs as they fly by, or don't.

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Poor Craig. He's locked into a belief system and his mind has closed. Because "he" can't bend a spoon, spoons can't be bent. Because ESP is not explained by classical physics, ESP doesn't exist. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Clarke's Third Law

-- a (a@a.a), June 17, 1999.

BTW Craig...I haven't seen you on the Oil&Gas thread since RC and George chased you away with your tail between your legs.

-- a (a@a.a), June 17, 1999.

It looks more like we may need an apology from the Koreans.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Whacha mean, A & L, that Koreans may "oops" us? "Whoops! sorry - new technology, ya know - workin' the bugs out.."

-- lisa (lisa@lisa.lisa), June 17, 1999.


North Korean UN Ambassador - Korean War II Imminent

North Korea Embassy - Democratic People's Republic of Korea PERMANENT MISSION TO THE UNITED NATIONS

820 Second Avenue, 13th Floor, New York, NY 10017

Tel: (212) 972-3105/3106 Fax; (212} 972-3154

June 11, 1999

Mr. President:

The US-led NATO's indiscriminate air strike against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in defiance of recognized international law is an act of wanton aggression on a sovereign state, which gives rise to deep concern of the international community at present.

In 1950s, the United States abused the name of the United Nations in the aggressive Korean war forcing the Security Council to adopt "resolutions" legalizing its aggression. This time of post-cold war, the U.S. bypassed the United Nations in launching the air strike against Yugoslavia.

This shows that the arrogance of the United States abusing or bypassing the UN for its own interests has reached its culmination.

What we take it still dangerous is the fact that the United States has been speeding up the preparations for a second aggressive Korean war while carrying on bombing of Yugoslavia.

Some time ago, the United States newly revised the "Operation Plan 5027-98." This is the most belligerent and dangerous war scenario of aggressive nature to stifle our Republic and realize domination over the whole Korea by employing preemptive air strike as in Yugoslavia.

Pursuant to this new "Operation Plan 5027-98" of a preemptive attack against the DPR Korea, the United States is now reinforcing its armed forces on a large scale in south Korea.

The U.S. already deployed "AC-130" ground assault aircraft and "FA-18" fighter-bombers in south Korea, followed by the reinforcement of 12 "F-15" fighters and several hundreds of combat personnel in mid-May. It is also keeping the US marine units based in Okinawa, Japan, and "Constellation" aircraft carrier, "F-15" tactical fighters, "B-52" strategic bombers and "EA-6B" electronic warfare aircraft based in its mainland on standby for rapid deployment in south Korea.

Furthermore, the U.S. is attempting to deploy in the US occupying forces of south Korea the state-of-the-art military equipment such as the latest precision guided bombs and "A-10" low altitude ground assault aircraft, which were mobilized in the air strike against Yugoslavia.

On the other hand, the U.S. revised the "U.S.-Japan Defense Cooperation Guideline," thus laying legal basis for dragging Japan into the Korean war.

All these facts indicate that the US is moving ahead to unleash a second aggressive Korean war by all means and realize its strategy towards Asia. The U.S. is alleging that the crisis in Yugoslavia has created a "vacuum" on the Korean peninsula, which is no more than a sophistry to justify the arms buildup in south Korea and to cover up its intention to provoke a second aggressive Korean war.

In order to prevent the recurrence of war on the Korean peninsula, a peace agreement should be concluded between the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the United States without delay and the US troops should be withdrawn from south Korea.

The United Nations should make tangible contribution to ensuring peace on the Korean peninsula by taking appropriate measures to remove the "UN helmet" from the US troops stationing in south Korea.

The United States is maintaining the "UN Command" in south Korea for more than half a century for the purpose of igniting another aggressive Korean war and abusing the UN name again for mobilizing multinational forces to it.

Today when the 21st Century is at the threshold, the United Nations should not remain indifferent to the revival of power politics such as the use of force seeking hegemony and domination against the trend of the present times and fulfill its responsibility and roles for ensuring international peace and security.

I should be grateful if you would have this letter circulated as a document of the Security Council.

Li Hyong Chol

Ambassador Permanent Representative

H. E. Mr. Baboucarr-Blalse Ismaila Jagne

President of the Security Council United Nations

-- Look (Watch@Listen.com), June 17, 1999.

USA really made everybody relax when it undertook the bombing of Yugoslavia.

Those actions catapulted the paranoid to determined-to-act-first status. Now they have justification in their mind & view.

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

http://www.yahoo.co.uk/headlines/19990617/world/0929646230-0000008540. html

Thursday June 17, 8:03 PM

India Navy on alert, says ready for counter-strike

By Uday Khandeparkar

BOMBAY, June 17 - India's navy was in a high state of combat preparedness in the Arabian Sea following growing tensions with rival Pakistan in the disputed region of Kashmir, Naval Chief Admiral Sushil Kumar said on Thursday.

"We have made suitable tactical and strategic realignments and they (the Naval fleet) are in a very high combat state," Kumar told reporters on board INS Delhi, one of India's front-line battleships anchored at Bombay.

The navy shifted its routine exercises from the Bay of Bengal on the country's east coast to the Arabian Sea because India's conflict with Pakistan over Kashmir could spill over into the sea, Kumar said.

"The idea behind bringing our forces to the western theatre is to bring together our maximum combat capability," he said.

"When the army and air force are fully involved in Kargil there is a possibility the situation could spill over into the sea," Kumar said.

India began airstrikes on May 26 to flush out what it says are Pakistan-backed infiltrators and regular army soldiers who have crossed into the Indian side of Kashmir. Pakistan denies the charge and says they are freedom fighters.

"The manner in which Kargil has been committed has been no ordinary infiltration. It is a well planned aggression and the armed forces have been given a very clear directive to vacate the aggression," Kumar said.

The fighting in Kashmir has pushed tensions between the nuclear-capable neighbours to their highest levels in nearly 30 years. India and Pakistan have fought two wars over Kashmir since their independence from Britain in 1947.

Kumar said the Navy's preparedness in the Arabian Sea, which skirts India's west coast as well as Pakistan's borders, had reinforced India's ability to retaliate in case of an attack.

"Should there be any misadventure at sea we would be then in a position to unleash an adequate retaliatory strike. We have built adequate combat power at this location," Kumar said.

He said there was a build-up on the Pakistani side as well. "They have made certain deployments. Certain units of theirs have been put to sea in certain tactical locations."

"The fact that the Pakistan army, navy and the air force are on full alert makes it imperative that the Indian Navy also stays on guard," Kumar said.

Responding to a question on reports Pakistan's navy was likely to be fitted with nuclear weapons, Kumar said:

"There have been some statements made that the Pakistan navy will get nuclearised...all our front-line combatants are very well equipped to absorb and survive a nuclear strike at sea. They are able to transit through an area of nuclear fall-out. In other words we are very well prepared."

Category : World

-- Look (Watch@Listen.com), June 17, 1999.

KABOOM! All strikes in the stew. Maybe we should take some KI now. Ya think they'll let us know ahead of time?

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

I have it on good authority that there are at least three VCR's within the borders of North Korea that are not Y2k-compliant, due to embedded chips.

Therefore, (using Doomer logic) if we can delay this potential war until at least Jan. 1, the entire military of North Korea will be paralyzed....

-- Chicken Little (panic@forthebirds.net), June 17, 1999.

Chicken Little, a person whose as ignorant on world events as he/she is on Y2K. Nice to see such consistency there...

BTW, if a person happens to take a NUKE up their ass, does THAT mean they get to be a "doomer" WITHOUT Chicken's derision?

Just some random thoughts....

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), June 17, 1999.

Chicken Little, aka "Mike" the Headless Chicken

-- a (a@a.a), June 17, 1999.

oowwwww uuuuugggghhhhhh gross
"a" how and where did you find that? Fits the character, eeeewwwwwww

-- upchuck (click@away.urp), June 17, 1999.

Somebody posted it on one of CL's threads last month. An interesting story to say the least:


-- a (a@a.a), June 17, 1999.

What a story, a@a. You've kept that goodie in the bag ;^) Wonder how many headless quacks we'll have still running around. Guess having our heads on the collective chopping block is not necessarily TEOTWAWKI after all. Who needs vision and hearing? Or thinking? Or their brain? Not many are using their senses anyway ...

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 18, 1999.

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