Does anyone know how to snare little wild rabbits? (Poor little bunnies.)

Can we use ocean water to flush the toilets?

Thanks!

-- Mara Wayne (MaraWAyne@aol.com), June 27, 1999

Answers

Sna res and Traps

Disclaimer: Traps are presented for information purposes only, they are dangerous, some lethally so. Using them is also illegal in all likelihood. Don't use them except in a survival situation.

-- (html@guy.com), June 27, 1999.

The link above works I just want to try again...something is going screwy with my html, putting a space in the link title...hmmm

try again:

Sna res and Traps

-- (html@guy.com), June 27, 1999.

Darnit!

(oh well, maybe not aesthetically pleasing as I hoped but still functional. Maybe it'll clear up when I reboot Windows)

-- (html@guy.com), June 27, 1999.

Snares and traps work well for all kinds of varmints, bot 2 and 4 legged ;-}.

Be aware that they will also kill your dogs, too...

It's best to use a 22 or pellet gun for your rabbit stew.

Bertin

-- Bertin Opus (third@hotmail.com), June 27, 1999.

Snares and traps work well for all kinds of varmints, both 2 and 4 legged ;-}.

Be aware that they will also kill your dogs, too...

It's best to use a 22 or pellet gun for your rabbit stew.

Bertin

-- Bertin Opus (third@hotmail.com), June 27, 1999.

Mara, we used sea water to flush toilets when in the Bahamas years ago. We stayed in a bunkhouse with a bunch of other folks, and the standard year-round practice was explained to us upon arrival. Worked just fine! Just don't include seaweed and other gunk that would clog the pipes.

-- Jill D. (jdance@mindspring.com), June 27, 1999.

Re: seawater to flush: Would saltwater corrosion of the pipes be a concern?

-- Mommacares (harringtondesignX@earthlink.net), June 27, 1999.

Thanks so much for the helpful answers! I hope it doesn't come to this, but just in case!

-- Mara Wayne (MaraWAyne@aol.com), June 27, 1999.

Lemme try it....

Snares and Traps

-- y2khacker (y2kbiker@worldnet.att.net), June 27, 1999.

Mommacares,

I wouldn't be concerned about saltwater corrosion of pipes if there was no running water to flush toilets. Although it's not ideal for your pipes or septic system (if you have one), it's a sanitary alternative for waste disposal, which would be a higher priority under the circumstances.

-- Jill D. (jdance@mindspring.com), June 28, 1999.

Ok ! that wasn't a space, guy, it was a carriage return and/or lineffed that was put in there by the form, not by your computer because the link was toolong to fit on one line. What I did was press return after the first " >" and before the "Snares". A hot link does not have to be all on one line.

-- y2khacker (y2kbiker@worldnet.att.net), June 28, 1999.

Hav-a-Hart live traps are available almost everywhere. They are made in sizes ranging from squirrels to raccoons. Much less dangerous than a steel trap. If your cat gets into one, just let him out again. He won't do it twice.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), June 28, 1999.

"best to use a .22"...the advantage of snares is that you can set a dozen or so, and you've got them all working for you. It multiplies your efforts. (Plus you don't run out of ammo.) In primitive survival snares and deadfalls are a very important tool. You can get more detailed informtion in Tom Brown's books. And if you render them harmless you can practice on your cat or pet bunny. (Use easily breakable thread for snare wire, or a cardboard box for a deadfall-- or uprights to catch the deadfall. Etc.) Then practice the same way on wild animals. Perfectly legal that way, and if you do need them to survive it's legal to use them for real.

-- Shimrod (shimrod@lycosmail.com), June 28, 1999.

no gun,no ammo,no noise,nobodys busness,if you need the protien,don't worry about a cat or a dog,it will better for you to be eating then they.I used to set them in late enving,return in the morning,collect your catch and trip the rest to be reset in the envning again no expence except about six feet chak line and a piece of apple carot cabbage ect,simple

-- Roy Strong (slim@voltage.net), June 28, 1999.

On June 27th, Mara Wayne writes: Can we use ocean water to flush the toilets? If your lack of water is due to some computer problem within the water service company, but the sewer service company is still operational, this would be fine. If, however, your lack of water is due to an electricity outage, preventing the water service company from pumping water to you, then the sewer company is probably also dysfunctional. In that case, flushing your toilet would be highly socially irresponsible. If the sewer service company is unable to pump, people downhill might suffer first as sewage backs up into their bathrooms, their kitchen sinks and eventually out the stacks on their roofs. Next, everyone would suffer from rampant disease.

I would not count on authorities to know better than to recommend dumping water into toilet tanks, let alone that they may need to recommend against it. I think we should all refrain from using the toilets, when there is no water service, until hearing from a representative of the sewage company.

-- Dancr (minddancr@aol.com), June 28, 1999.

Thanks biker, now I see what was happenin'

-- (html@guy.com), June 28, 1999.

Mara, if you have easy access to ocean water, don't you have the world's biggest food supply in your backyard? Why bother with trapping bunnies? Try fishing, crab traps or team-up with some neighbors and learn to work a commercial fishing net from the shoreline.

-- David (David@BankPacman.com), June 28, 1999.

Somebody from this thread asked me privately if the "downhill" problem also could be a factor on flat land. I don't know. I'm not an authority on human waste sanitation by any stretch. I only passed along what I've heard on this and other forums like it. Apparently most treatment plants are gravity "fed" if we can use such a word in this context. It would all probably depend upon the specifics of your community's setup.

Do they have shutoffs at various locations throughout the system to halt the flow? (I'm asking... I don't even know if such mechanisms exist) I do know we can get them for our own property to prevent backflow, so it seems reasonable to think that the sewer system itself may have some way to control the flow toward the plant.

If there are such gates (apparently they have them in Chicago and Los Angeles, from the news reports of recent accidents and near accidents), then the backup can begin there, instead of right at the plant.

Supposedly, most homes are built above street level, and so sewage would come out onto the street by building up enough force to lift those heavy manhole covers before backing up clear to the toilets of anyone's homes. I find that a bit hard to swallow (so to speak). Also, what if people downhill from you got smart (as I would think to do) and parked something heavy on the manhole cover?

Of course, somebody would only want to do this if they themselves had installed a backflow prevention devise in their own home's line, and were prepared to deal with ticked off neighbors.

-- Dancr (minddancr@aol.com), June 29, 1999.

We are planning on fishing--surf casting. I'm not sure how we would set crab traps.

My sister just read about a valve that shuts the sewage from running into or out of your home. We will also check into that.

THanks all.

-- Mara Wayne (MaraWAyne@aol.com), June 29, 1999.

Mara, I'm truly jealous. I'd love to be near enough to fish the ocean anytime I wanted to . . . er ah except when a certain type of storm is heading up the east coast, then I'm thankful to be inland a few hundred miles :-))

In regards to fishing with a small commercial net from the beach, it may be worth looking into. I've watched them used before. Pretty simple and they can bring in hundreds of tasty treats with each cast. Basic principle is to obtain a long span of netting about 4 feet in width. Anchor to the bumpers of two vehicles parked fairly close together. Walk the middle of the net out into the surf a hundred feet and set it open (so that the width is fully extended facing the shore). Then slowly start driving one of the vehicles along the beach to gently pull the net in.

-- David (David@BankPacman.com), June 29, 1999.