PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO
Plan for domestic terror units in all 50 states by January 1
By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

A new National Guard RAID unit is being organized and trained to respond to domestic terrorist threats, with a team in every state and territory in time for Y2K.

Each team is made up of 22 full-time National Guard members and is prepared to deal with domestic threats from terrorist groups using weapons of mass destruction.

As the new year approaches, the National Guard in most states has progressed from weekly to twice-weekly meetings to prepare plans for Y2K contingencies, according to a guard officer who attends the meetings. Each meeting takes place in secure areas, such as the Plans Operations and Training section of Guard facilities. The RAID teams meet and train on a daily basis.

Details of the National Guard RAID teams were found in a recent report issued by Mark E. Gebicke, director of National Security and International Affairs.

Articles in WorldNetDaily exposing secret National Guard Y2K plans forced many guard units, and the National Guard Bureau, to hold more secret meetings to decide how to handle the disclosure. In January, WorldNetDaily broke the story that the National Guard Bureau had secret plans to test a method for national mobilization without the use of telephones in the event of Y2K disaster. Another article detailed many of the concerns of guard officers and Y2K planners regarding expected Y2K contingencies and civil disturbances.

One National Guard officer, who participates in the twice-weekly secret meetings, recently contacted WorldNetDaily to express his concerns over the seriousness of expected Y2K consequences.

"There is no valid, logical reason to keep this information from the public, other than political. The current administration seems to believe the American people are not capable of dealing with the truth," explained the officer in a phone interview over the weekend.

"We are talking about far more than just possible loss of power and phone service. We are planning for civil unrest, as well as attacks from foreign and domestic enemies," he described.

The consequences of Y2K will present an ideal opportunity for enemies of the United States to take advantage and attack. There are so many different threats that the source said it is highly likely that at least one or more will actually carry out multiple attacks using Y2K as the ideal opportunity to strike.

He was concerned that militia groups in all parts of the country are considered a threat. WorldNetDaily earlier this year exposed plans by the FBI to infiltrate militia groups and prepare to one day round up members.

"Most of these people are good quality Americans who are genuinely concerned about our nation, but they are all being categorized (as a threat) because there are a small number among them who are the real problem. The really far-off extremists," he explained. "There's no reason to go after everyone just because of a few nuts."

A National Guard Bureau contact who previously spoke with WorldNetDaily was reluctant to provide new information in a recent phone conversation. He did confirm the existence of the RAID teams and admitted that his Y2K committee now meets almost daily just outside Washington, D.C.

In January he told WorldNetDaily that the guard was preparing for Y2K disruptions that were expected to last about two or three weeks. Now he admits that plans are being made for "consequences for a very extensive period." Just what those consequences will be he would not say. "Scary, very scary," was his only comment.

Another National Guard source, a full-time civilian computer information systems employee, reported that the Guard is continuing to purchase and install large generators in preparation for Y2K at all armories across the nation. At the local armory level, he says, "an attitude of complacency has set in." Lower level guard members are not being told the full extent of the expected Y2K problems, and plans are still being handled on a "need-to-know basis."

He said lower level guard members know only what the general public knows.

"They are being allowed to believe that Y2K consequences will not amount to more than a few minor inconveniences. That's not what we are planning for. We're planning for major, simultaneous disasters in all states and territories," he said.

Only the upper level of the National Guard command structure is aware that the National Guard's own computers are not functioning properly, and there is great concern that they will fail in the new year -- perhaps before.

There was no response from National Guard public affairs.

-- Nabi Davidson (nabi7@yahoo.com), July 06, 1999

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PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO
But will guardsmen be Y2K-ready?
Mainframe computer systems in serious trouble, says expert
By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

While the National Guard prepares for possible Y2K related civil disturbances and terrorist threats, its own computers are falling far behind in becoming Y2K compliant, according to a National Guard computer systems specialist.

"Our operating systems for both the Logistics and Business mainframes are still not Y2K compliant," the source told WorldNetDaily. He is a civilian employee working on the very computers involved and expressed concern that the systems will not be ready to function on New Year's Eve because of the Y2K bug.

The problem includes every mainframe computer in all 50 states and four territories of the National Guard. Those computers were supposed to be repaired and ready earlier this year but failed the tests miserably, according to the source who would not permit his name to be published because of the nature of the information he has provided in the past and hopes to continue to provide. His position and information have been independently verified.

Computer systems operators working for National Guard units in many states recently attended training on the Personnel Retirement Accounting System, one of many systems that had supposedly been upgraded with Y2K compliant software.

"The trip turned out to be a farce," one of the computer operators told WorldNetDaily. "The present system is on a Santa Cruz Operations UNIX box. SCO does not support its UNIX package anymore, and it is definitely not a Y2K compatible operating system," he said in frustration.

"The system is far from ready," another attendee said in a separate interview. "They expect it to be ready by September 1st, with a big maybe attached to that! So we basically were there to contribute our input on how the system should run on a user and systems support level. The trip was a waste of time for the government, but I feel that we had some of the brightest people from around the country, and we pointed the Pentagon's systems analyst in the right direction," he said.

The National Guard can continue to function without the Personnel Retirement Accounting System, but not without the Logistics and Supply System computers. A similar training program on the Y2K upgraded computers for Logistics and Supply has been canceled at the last minute.

"They just now figured out that our current hardware configuration couldn't support the Y2K operating system upgrade and the logistics applications upgrade. You would think that they would have noticed this a long time ago, not now, at the last minute," the computer specialist exclaimed.

The problem with the computers is significant. According to an internal e-mail memo, the "Prepare for War" portion of the Logistics System was destroyed or removed by the Y2K upgrade to the system. Not only are the computers not capable of functioning at the start of the new year, they are currently unable to function properly because of the error.

Will repairs be made in time? Can the system be made ready and functional by the first of the year? Are there similar problems in other military operations? Will the military be caught unable to respond to threats at the start of the new year, or sooner?

"Those are all good questions, and I wish I knew the answers," a top officer in the National Guard Bureau responded. He participates in almost daily meetings dealing with Y2K consequence planning. "We have a saying, 'There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way.' If you apply that here you realize that we're in trouble.

"I know what the public affairs people will tell you. 'All is well. We're just being prudent. We're being good Boy Scouts and being prepared for anything, even though we don't think anything will actually happen.' They'll even tell you, 'It's a good exercise for us. We're learning a lot from all this.' Yeah, we're learning how bad off we are," he remarked.

Part of the problem of getting ready for Y2K may be simple incompetence and bureaucratic ineptness. One of the computer systems specialists said the National Guard knowingly just installed computer software even though it is not Y2K compliant.

"The Logistics Supply System local area network interacts with the mainframe. They installed the old Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on the workstations. How Y2K compatible is that? Answer -- not very," stated the computer information systems operators.

When he asked superiors why the inferior software was being installed, he was told that the National Guard received it for free and wanted to save some money. No one seemed to care about the fact that the operating system will not work in less than six months.

When the National Guard Bureau officer was told about the free software problem, he said, "That's just one example. That sort of thing goes on throughout the guard. Now do you see why I'm concerned?"

There was no response from National Guard public affairs.

-- Nabi Davidson (nabi7@yahoo.com), July 06, 1999.

Saint Joseph ,Missouri News-Press 7-6-99 http://www.stjoenews-press.com/07-06-99/Lo15.shtml

Excerpts:

The Missouri National Guard is beginning a recruitment drive called "Operation Arrowhead."

The Guard will try to recruit at least 200 people by Sept. 30 to join the 12,000 men and women who already belong to the Missouri Guard, said Lt. Col. Mark Hampton

The recruitment effort is going to focus on the St. Joseph and Kansas City areas

In the event of a national emergency, members of the guard can be assigned to active duty with the U.S. Army.

end excerpt

-- mchnst (Gunmkr52@aol.com), July 06, 1999.

Havent had a chance to read them yet, but there are some fairly new GAO reports up.

Diane

Recent Reports (Arranged by Title)

http:// www.gao.gov/new.items/newtitle.htm

Combating Terrorism: Use of National Guard Response Teams Is Unclear. NSIAD-99-110. 27 pp. plus 4 appendices (21 pp.) May 21, 1999.

http://www.gao.gov/ new.items/ns99110.pdf

Combating Terrorism: Use of National Guard Response Teams Is Unclear. T-NSIAD-99-184. 10 pp. June 23, 1999.

http:// www.gao.gov/new.items/ns99184t.pdf

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), July 06, 1999.

These articles are MUST READS! Thank you, Nabi, and the other threads covering this.

Tuesday, July 6, 1999
WorldNetDaily

WorldNetDaily

PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO: The National Guard's New Y2K RAID Team Plan for Domestic Terror Units in All 50 States by January 1

PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO: But Will Guardsmen Be Y2K-Ready? Mainframe Computer Systems in Serious Trouble, Says Expert

PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO: How RAID Teams Work: Special Attention to Weapons of Mass Destruction

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), July 06, 1999.

A National Guard Bureau contact who previously spoke with WorldNetDaily was reluctant to provide new information in a recent phone conversation. He did confirm the existence of the RAID teams and admitted that his Y2K committee now meets almost daily just outside Washington, D.C.

In January he told WorldNetDaily that the guard was preparing for Y2K disruptions that were expected to last about two or three weeks. Now he admits that plans are being made for "consequences for a very extensive period." Just what those consequences will be he would not say. "Scary, very scary," was his only comment.  -- WorldNet Daily

Part of the real c4i group? See first post...

Thread #1...

Why Paul Milne is a Polly

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 000w5S

Thread #2...

Weak Link

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 000wIA

Thread #3...

WHY I THINK c4i IS A DOOMER TROLL

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 000wKw

Thread #4...

c4i, how might you wish us best respond to your disclosures?

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 000wOI

Now... the real c4i posted on the first thread and came in on a verified dot mil ISP. Then on the second thread a fake c4i starts posting... NOT coming from a dot mil ISP. On the the forth thread the real c4i posts once to FM coming back in on that verified dot mil ISP.

Several of us received e-mail from said c4i. The publisher they requested we take the story to, responded that they ONLY follow their own verifiable leads and sources.

Publisher Hint: World Net Daily.

Read it... and ALL the responses... and figure it out yourself.

To paraphrase someone... they sure came down the fire poles fast on this one!

For me... Im STILL curious.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), July 06, 1999.

This is a significant news break. "Major, simultaneous disasters in all states and territories" ... "consequences for a very extensive period" ... "We are planning for civil unrest, as well as attacks from foreign and domestic enemies" ...

-- bug eyed (reading@this.raid), July 06, 1999.

Nabi,

Great Post...

Diane,

Great follow-up post and links...

To All the Polly's... Anita, Paul, Andy Ray, et al.

Your silence on this news story is deafening. I'm shocked that the polly's haven't been ranting and raving on this one, but I'm sure that they have good reasons and will be around shortly. Some of us our waiting with baited breath...and could use a few laughs.

-- R.C. (racambab@mailcity.com), July 06, 1999.

just what do they plan to raid? our larders like the British did?

-- uneasy (hidden@stocks.bale), July 06, 1999.

the military is stocking up on deodorant and bug spray

-- moron (raid@guard.supplies), July 06, 1999.

Don't forget about solar flares also. The national guard is concerned abt them also! That makes y2k, terrorists, and flares....russia, and possibly china .....

-- Moore Dinty moore (not@thistime.com), July 06, 1999.

korea < -- Korea is the one to go off the deep end fastest

-- starving (NKorea@desperate.button), July 06, 1999.

Look at some of the other World Net Daily articles, too. There's a lot of information there--for instnce, the problem with the Alaska Pipeline. Very interessting material. Very well researched.

-- Mara Wayne (MaraWAyne@aol.com), July 06, 1999.

R.C. -

Terrorism is certainly a real threat; the United States is not particularly popular nowadays. Prevention and response units can't hurt!

-- Klar (klarbrunn@lycos.com), July 07, 1999.