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Has anyone attened Jewish Sader?

-- jean bouchardRC (, July 16, 1999


Yes! I had always wanted to experience a Passover to understand what the Last Supper was all about. A Jewish friend asked my three children and me to attend--she had just become a widow and she needed a few guests to make the Seder more festive. Since my daughter was the youngest that year, she opened the door at the end of the Seder to see if Elijah would enter and announce the coming of the Messiah. The children also searched for the afikoman, a piece of matzah hidden earier in hopes of winning a prize, It was a joyous celebration with the readings, singing, FOOD and I felt honored to have been invited.

-- Deb Myers (, October 01, 2002.

I have attended a sader twice, and had one in my home. I can't tell you, the significance of the sader meant more to me than anything I have learned being a christian. It was a humbling experiance, deep spiritual awakening for me. I plan on doing a sader again for a local church. I highly recommend all christians either attend one or have one themselves. It will change you.

-- Pauletta Anguay (, September 03, 2003.

If the Eucharist doesn't change you, nothing will. The Jewish Passover was but a dim forshadowing of the glorious reality which is present in its fullness in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Today a ceremony which anticipates the coming of the Messiah is simply irrelevant. He has come, suffered, died, risen, and founded one Church for all humanity.

-- Paul (, September 03, 2003.


As Hebrew Catholics we keep the Seder (means "order") each year at Pesach (Passover) and we have modified our Orthodox Seder in light of our Roman Catholic faith so that we teach our children the origin of our Salvation and Eucharist from Yeshua through this Seder. We agree that people might wish to experience a Seder at least once to deepen their understanding of their faith. Still the elements of the Seder, the telling of the story (Haggahdah- to tell) are found in the Mass, during Holy week, Palm Sunday, Holy Thursday, and on the Easter Vigil, yet there is something to be gained by infusing this telling with sights, sounds and scents while and bringing this all under one canopy rather then stretching them over several days. This isn't to imply our Church is wrong in does, she correct to give this thematic view of those days, however setting aside one day to look contextually at that evening what the first century disciples saw, tasted, heard in context does give greater depth to our Church's teachings we believe. This is what we suspect Pauletta meant when she said "it will change you" and why Yeshua said of the old wine, "no one after drinking old wine desires the new; for he says, 'the old is good'" Lk.5.39

Shalom, C & C

-- C.Foegen (, September 03, 2003.

Long ago I was invited to a "simplified" form of Seder by a Jewish family. It was a vivid experience for me for all the time I was thinking of what Jesus did in the Last Supper.

More recently a music cassette was given to me by a Jewish friend. It is titled PASSOVER and it has the music for the Seder, as well as other traditional pieces of Hebrew Music by the THE WESTERN WIND VOCAL ENSEMBLE. Try it and maybe you'll have a new experience.

Also I found this page about a way of celebrating a Seder for Christians. It would be very interesting to hear more about Christians' experiences with the Seder.


-- Enrique Ortiz (, September 04, 2003.

It would be very interesting to hear more about Christians' experiences with the Seder.

I'd be a lot more interested to hear Jews' experience with the Holy Mass.

-- jake (, September 04, 2003.

Shalom Jake,

You said:

>>> I'd be a lot more interested to hear Jews' experience with the Holy Mass. >>>

We have only one comment, and it came from a Messianic friend who said our Catholic Mass was "too Orthodox" for her. We laughed, as she is likely correct for our Church is highly kosher (proper) as the Ruach (Spirit) has led her to Torah, just as Jer.31.31-34 promised; and this we believe is why she saw our services as resembling Jewish Orthodoxy.

Shalom, C & C

-- C.Foegen (, September 04, 2003.

Shalom Enrique,

You commented that:

>>> It would be very interesting to hear more about Christians' experiences with the Seder. >>>

We have our own Pesach traditions explained in light of our Catholic faith at Also just in case you run into trouble with some of our internal links, our Web Host is updating sites right now and they are placing some links at the base of each page. We have no control over the links they offer so please keep this in mind. Also, we have noticed that there is at least one page's links that are not working because of this update in progress. Still you can reach these links externally from one of main pages. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause anyone.

Shalom, C & C

-- C.Foegen (, September 04, 2003.

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