Excerpt from Washington Post article, re: Jim Lord/Navy report:

"Koskinen said the Navy wasn't withholding information from anyone, noting that the continually updated report was available until recently on a Web site maintained by the Defense Department."

Question #1: Is anyone on this bulletin board familiar with that Navy website? Did any of the regulars here visit it, read the "continually updated report," but neglect to mention it to us?

Question #2: Why was the site yanked "recently"? Wouldn't now and the next four-plus months be the most important time to make that info available?

Question #3: Does anyone else besides me smell a rat here? A smooth-talking, fake-smiling, manicured, pinstriped, White House lackey of a rat?

(I'm never gonna make fun of Jim Lord's goofy sideburns again.)

-- rick blaine (y2kazoo@hotmail.com), August 19, 1999

Answers

rick, I'm confused by question #3 -- Decker does not work for the White House.

OHHHH, you meant Koskinen. Gotcha!

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 19, 1999.

When I began reading your forum I assumed that you all knew about the U.S.Naval War College and their web site. Here it is: www.nwc.navy.mil/dsd/y2ksited/y2kproj.htm They have done quite a study. Not all of the conlusions that they reached are available to the public. aster

-- aster (cimbri1@aol.com), August 19, 1999.

KOS! LOL lol, but I'm not altogether sure about your comment on ddecker, he's obviously being paid by **somebody***...

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), August 19, 1999.

Yes, aster, there's been plenty 'o discussion here about the NWC. This, however, appears to be something different...

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), August 19, 1999.

Rick, in an earlier thread today someone mentioned that web sites from 1996 forward had been photographed. Any web sites that had existed and been pulled might be in this collection. The system had a name like Allison oe Alex or something. I can't find the thread but would be very interested to see if a web site actully was on the net as Kosky said or if he was just blowing smoke.

Did anyone else read this information and remember the thread?

-- Linda A. (adahi@muhlon.com), August 19, 1999.

Linda: Do you like to mudwrestle?

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 19, 1999.

Linda,

I think the reference is on this thread...

Koskinen's "Take" On Jim Lord's Pentagon Papers (Steve Davis-- Coalition 2000))

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 001GgI

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 19, 1999.

I did a lot of netsearching today trying to verify the Jim Lord document and skimming through dry navy newsletters about one y2k related subject after another. Finally, on HotBot, a search for

+u.s. +navy +master +utility +list

came up with an intriguing hit. Here's the url

http://www.nfesc.navy.mil/y2k/

But, I can't get in. Error 403, forbidden access. The message says that my ISP does not have access. Can ANYONE get into this document? It may be the verification we are all looking for.

My email is real if you remove the antispam X

p.s. I also emailed the Navy but they haven't written back yet.

-- mommacarestx (harringtondesignX@earthlink.net), August 19, 1999.

"Alexa" is the name of a browser plug-in that can access *snapshots* of old web sites

The problem is that you need to know the URL!

Link below is to Alexa site for free plugin.
Link

Info below from the Alexa web site...br> ===== ===== ===== ===== ==== ==== === === === ===

How current is Alexa's copy of the Web?

As of May 1, 1999, Alexa's Web archive is in excess of 13 Terabytes and we take a new snapshot approximately every 30 - 60 days. (A terabyte is a million megabytes or 1,000,000,000,000 bytes).

In our experience, the number of Web sites is doubling every 6 months.

Alexa began collecting the Web in early 1996 and we now have at least three snapshots of more than two million Web sites. We are beginning to adjust our visits of sites to reflect which sites change most frequently. We make it easy for Web site administrators to request that their site be archived at a particular time or not archived at all, whatever their preference.
The average Web page has a life of approximately 44 days.

8.Can I use the Alexa archive to view how a site looked on any given date?

Our primary goal is to assist users when they encounter dead links on the Web. The Alexa toolbar provides the user with the most recent snapshot we have of a given URL when they receive a "404-Page Not Found" message.

-- G (balzer@lanset.com), August 19, 1999.

I have created a page on my website to honor this subject. It includes a link to the Navy Y2K site and has the latest version of the report that Jim wrote about.

See http://www.DavisLogic.com/ the link is right at the top of the page.

-- Steve Davis (Steve@coalition2000.org), August 19, 1999.

Thanks Steve, but when I click on the link for the "scary navy report" I get a page not found message.

All I, and everyone else in my particular city of 104,000 souls (listed at risk of sewage treatment failure) want to know is: Do we need portapotties? Sewage backflow valves? Cholera shots?

We could still arrange for them if needed. IF somebody would tell us the truth.

Still waiting for that fireside chat. Not that anyone would believe him.

-- mommacarestx (harringtondesignX@earthlink.net), August 19, 1999.

Steve,

Your link "Get the Skinny..." doesn't work!!
Me thinks me smell something stinky with your adamant support of kosky's spin on this issue. Kosky's explanation/damage control is just about laughable. We all know the primary responsibility of our illustrious Y2k Czar is to delay any public response as long as possible to give the remediation effort/repair as much time as possible. This has always been a "Catch 22"---Damned if you do-Damned if you don't" situation. It sounds like to me you have mostly chosen the "Save the System" side on this one--even at the cost of millions of lives!! But then again--- some of the system and some of the people has always been the only option, right?

-- cb (LIVES@RISK.net), August 19, 1999.

So the Navy's Web Site is on your hard drive (file:///C:/WEBSHARE/WWWROOT/y2k/NavyAssessment.htm)

VERY REVEALING!!!

You should be able to do better than this---- even if under pressure.

-- cb (LIVES@RISK.net), August 19, 1999.

Steeeeve Daaavis ... hmmmm ... there is something downright funny about that boy.... Something not quite right ... If you get my drift .... Nosir, not right 'ta tall ... Somethin's afoot, thats plain ....

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

Mud wrestling really turns me on! However I also like to do it in a hot tub! I must be really perverted! Does anyone else here have sexual fantasies also?

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

I looked up Steve Davis site and bookmarked it. Then I read his crap and immediately DELETED the bookmark! What a bunch of garbage!

-- smitty (smitty@aol.com), August 20, 1999.