I'm interested in whether or not this story was mentioned in your newspaper. I heard it briefly mentioned on CNN radio last evening, and saw threads where it was mentioned on other networks.

Today's edition of the Kansas City Star has no mention of it. (I'm NOT surprised).

What about your newspaper? Did they cover it? If so, where was it located and how much space did they devote to it?

This smells.

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), August 20, 1999

Answers

Nothing in the Houston Chronicle. But heard a blurb about on the radio news last night while listening to the Art Bell Show.

-- quietly (quietly@preparing.com), August 20, 1999.

Wilferd.

Keep in mind that the AP story only broke last night. AP ran it again today, so we'll see.

The Los Angeles Times carried the story, as did the Atlanta Constitution and the Washington Post.

Keep checking (tonight and tomorrow morning.)

Coverage will most likely occur in newspapers located in cities mentioned in the report.

:)

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

Definitely a cover up is going on.

ABC and Washington post and AP ran the story --- our utility provider here in CT is on it!!!!

I just logged into the boards for CNN Year 2000 bug and they were talking about it being a hoax since only Jim Lord wrote it.

The story is definitely being covered up and it nowhere on the CNN site as of yet.

Also, I tried to post the link to the ABC story and could not even post to the board. I sent an email to CNN about the difficulty.

Liz

-- Liz Conti (Liz.Conti@pharma.com), August 20, 1999.

yep, made the Boston Globehttp://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/232/nation/Navy_report_expects_ Y2K_water_electrical_failures+.shtml

-- Steve (Steve@preparingnow.com), August 20, 1999.

It's not in the Chicago Tribune.

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), August 20, 1999.

In our local "regional" paper as excerpt from AP, back page of front section.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), August 20, 1999.

Try this one

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/232/nation/Navy_report_expects_Y2K_w ater_electrical_failures+.shtml

-- Steve (Steve@preparingnow.com), August 20, 1999.

Not in the New York Times. Will check the office copies of Wall Street Journal and Financial Times (London) when I go on coffee break.

-- M.C. Hicks (mhicks@greenwich.com), August 20, 1999.

quietly

It did make the Houston Chronicle. It ran the AP story, almost in full, leaving out the Jim Lord connection.

It was on page three of the Business section.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), August 20, 1999.

It's in USA TODAY.

Typically my local paper carries such stories a day after they appear in the major ones.

Too soon to tell.

R.

-- Roland (nottelling@nowhere.com), August 20, 1999.

Dog Gone...thank you. I completely missed it!. Hadn't thrown the paper out yet will go and snip it. So what do you think?

-- quietly (quietly@preparing.com), August 20, 1999.

We have two major papers in South Florida, the Miami Herald did not run it, but the Ft Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel did. It's also been on the local newsradio station all morning.

-- Bob (bob@bob.bob), August 20, 1999.

"Navy predicts widespread Y2K failures" (BIG BOLD TYPE)

Sizeable article running in this morning's Denver Rocky Mountain News, page 15B.

Both Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News have been very good at running thoughtful articles on the Y2K bug.

-- kalani & katiuska (kalani_hanohano@hotmail.com), August 20, 1999.

quietly

I think they printed it without realizing what it was. Remember the AP story didn't come out until the evening. I think some junior editor just slapped it into a place that fit in the Business section. Houston was mentioned as one of the cities at risk.

A military report calling your city at risk??? Seems like that might be of interest to your readers, like maybe Page 1 stuff!

We'll see if they follow up on it or whether it's just a big yawn.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), August 20, 1999.

It made the Asbury Park Press in New Jersey.

Mark Mastrorilli

-- Mark Mastrorilli (mastrorilli@hotmail.com), August 20, 1999.

Made it in the Omaha World Herald in Omaha, NE. Quite possibly the most land-locked city in the U.S., all right there in the middle of the country. It was pretty much in full.

-- Mr. Details (Details@detail.com), August 20, 1999.

Not yet, but Good Morning America had a weak 30 second spot at about 7:30 am this morning. I was even shock they said that out of their normal Y2K spot in the evening news. Maybe something indeed is starting, somebody better fan the embers quick! Somebody in the other branches of the military has got to be willing and able to help. Where is valor?

-- Watching Goodman (ITgoodmanHK@matt2444.com), August 20, 1999.

Just heard it covered on Headline News, (Turner channel). They summarized the Navy finding, and then compared that to the whitehouse pronouncements several weeks ago of power, water problems being highly unlikley. They did not say who was right. They did NOT mention the Ko-skin-um spin of the Navy being overly pessimestic or worse case scenario.

-- smfdoc (smfdoc@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

It had a short story in the Business section of the Wisconsin State Journal. I was really surprised.

-- Paul Hepperla (paulhep@terracom.net), August 20, 1999.

This morning it was mentioned on CNN Headline News and it also is the big bold main story on the Druge Report this morning.

-- Diane (DiR9290343@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

Surprised to see it in Durham (NC) Herald-Sun, p.11A.

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), August 20, 1999.

Well, its on S.F. Gate -- San Franciscos Chronicle, Examiner and KRON TV Channel 4 (NBC) combined web-site...

Navy report predicts widespread Y2K failures for many cities
TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer
Friday, August 20, 1999
Breaking News Sections

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ article.cgi?file=/news/archive/1999/08/20/national0131EDT0444.DTL

Koskinen quote of the day...

``It's not nearly as interesting as the world coming to an end,'' said Koskinen. ``The way they worked was, until you have information for contingency planning purposes, you ought to assume there was a problem.''

And it hit the...

San Jose Mercury News... yesterday

Posted at 8:25 p.m. PDT Thursday, August 19, 1999
Navy report predicts widespread Y2K failures
BY TED BRIDIS
Associated Press

http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/codes/B/docs/B590.htm

(I'll check the print versions when I walk downtown for a latte later).

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 20, 1999.

It was in the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Section A, toward the back.

-- max (xam01@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

The Boston Globe article was a rehash of Ted Bridis/AP and failed to mention that there were any local sites listed, let alone NYC and D.C.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), August 20, 1999.

It was reported on CBN this morning. (Thanks, Drew!) :-)

-- Gayla (privacy@please.com), August 20, 1999.

3 quick paragraphs on the second to last page , section one of the Tribune, Scranton Pa.

-- George in Ne.Pa. (grc0702@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

This was the lead story on the Paul Harvey radio news this morning (Friday.).

-- Alexi (Alexi@not-in-the-dark.com), August 20, 1999.

Didn't see it in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer this morning. Of course, there's no local impact--only the Port of Seattle, Bremerton, Oak Harbor...

-- Don (whytocay@hotmail.com), August 20, 1999.

POST-COFFEE-BREAK UPDATE: Fascinating... so far as I can tell, the story did not make the NY Times, WS Journal, or Financial Times (London). Nor did it make the Connecticut Post, a major paper serving the NYC suburbs.

I know these are conservative publications, but *sheesh*... this is ridiculous! Hopefully between Paul Harvey, Matt Drudge, CNN and USA Today, they'll be embarrassed enough to run something over the weekend.

-- M.C. Hicks (mhicks@greenwich.com), August 20, 1999.

Yeppers, made the Cincinnati Inquirer this morn. Page A6 and it read: "Navy report predicts widespread Y2K sanfus". Subheading reads: "Many cities' water, electrical failures seen". The article's size was approx. 4 inches by 8 inches. Made me glad the truth is out(partially).

-- Marcia (MarciaZ@Worldnet.att.net), August 20, 1999.

Spelling mistake - Make that "Y2K snafus".

-- Marcia (MarciaZ@worldnet.att.net), August 20, 1999.

Nothing that I could find in the newspapers in Tucson, AZ.

-- PJ (Just.Here@tucson.AZ), August 20, 1999.

Arizona Republic (Phoenix)

Navy says Y2K woes "probable"
Study sees water, electrical failures
The full article from AP was on page 7

Another article was on GPS.

On front page of business section....
Y2Krazy: Novelties, jokes poke fun at year-end fear
....but firearms enthusiasts don"t find Y2K amusing....but Americans are doing what they do best during momentous times -- making jokes and novelty items.

-- rb (ronbanks-2000@yahoo.com), August 20, 1999.

I am very surprised. It did make my paper. Same article that is in the Post presented to us on page 3A top and center. Owensboro Ky, Messenger-Inquirer.

-- Linda A. (adahi@muhlon.com), August 20, 1999.

Yahoo y2k Full Coverage has the AP story at

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19990820/tc/y2k_failures_2.html

I haven't seen the Waco paper yet today - and we were listed as probable partial failure in sewage treatment. Ick. We do have a Navy/ Marine Corps Reserve here.

-- mommacarestx (harringtondesignX@earthlink.net), August 20, 1999.

Hey, kids. Wanna see strategic editing in action? This is Ted Bridis' AP report as delivered by ABCNEWS.com.

Compare its last paragraph with the Washington Post version. Something rather interesting is missing.

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), August 20, 1999.

If it was in the Dallas Morning News they had it well hidden and too small to read(these tri-focals need replacing!)

-- Neil G.Lewis (pnglewis1@yahoo.com), August 20, 1999.

Made this morning's Minneapolis Star Tribune - page A10. Good summary but no mention of New York City.

-- newshound (newshound@mpls.city), August 20, 1999.

Mac, That is very interesting! Both are Ted Bridis' AP report, both have identical word for word articles with this one exception. The Washington Post version ends with the words, "The report has been removed from the Web site, but neither Koskinen nor Defense Department officials could say why." while ABC News has omitted that sentence.

If I were AP or Ted Bridis, I would be calling my lawyer...this article is copywrited, doesn't that mean it cannot be altered????

-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), August 20, 1999.

I just went out and had some lunch at the local coffee shop. I had to get away from this for an hour. (Although, I didn't, really.) I bought the late edition of the New York Times and looked for mention of the Navy thing.

Nothing.

However, this does not mean all that much. While the NYTimes does run AP stories on its website, it does not print AP stories in the paper. I would bet that in tommorow's paper, Barnaby Feder will write a piece. (convenient. On a Saturday when no one is paying attention. I doubt they'll wait until Sunday, when people DO read the paper...) My experience is the the NYTimes is at least a day or two behind everyone else on Y2K stories, and they're VERY careful about what they say.

As far AP pieces in other publications, as RUOK mentions -- they don't have to give a byline, they don't have to use the same headline, and they don't have to print the entire thing. It means nothing that the last sentence was removed. (If you've ever seen an AP story off the wire, it's filled with -------cut here------ for optional parts.)

And, there's no mention of the story on the NYTimes website right now, using their seach engine.

The Bergen Record (Bergen County is right across the George Washington Bridge from NYC, and one of the wealthiest counties in the country. The Kearny PSE&G natural gas facility that is on Jim's version of the Navy list as "total failure is likely" is either in Bergen or nearby Essex county. Either way, that's where Bergen gets its natural gas...) has the story, at least on the website.

Here's a little snip from the lead Editorial in today's NYTimes:

Mr. Bush's Drug Dodges

"...While there is no clear-cut rule about how much personal information they need to provide, more information is almost invariably better than less. That is because efforts to limit information usually just raise more questions, not only among reporters but among voters. Evasion also diminishes those who practice it. Sensitized by Mr. Clinton's 1992 campaign circumlocutions on personal matters, Americans now fear such dodging may be a signal of deeper flaws..."

I wish these hypocrites would learn how to apply this evenly...

-- pshannon (pshannon@inch.com), August 20, 1999.

The Seattle times ran an article (www.seattletimes.com) that also included information from a local commander.

-- James (jpeet@u.washington.edu), August 20, 1999.

Very interesting to read which papers chose to run this story.

There is a special "Y2k" Watch column (or similarly titled) in the Kansas City Star that appears every Saturday. It is usually very tame, generally 'polly' in tone, and consists of fairly dated information. It is usually found in the Business section. I'll be interested to see if they make mention of this tomorrow, and will report back.

The Star is owned by Knight-Ridder. I wonder if any other Knight- Ridder papers ran the story? What sort of (and how far reaching) editorial control does a newspaper conglomerate exercise?

Things that make me go "Hmmmmm....."

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), August 20, 1999.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr near Monterey, California

And from San Jose, where "Total Sewer Failure is Likely," although the San Jose Mercury News picked up the Pentagon Y2K Papers story in their online newspaper yesterday, I could not find it in today's print version.

Instead, the front page stories are: Secret Los Angeles family of Gordon Getty revealed Outrage aimed at builders: Gov't starts official probe of weak construction 150,000 Demand Yugoslav leader surrender power Queries about drugs keep pursuing Bush Peregrine falcons claw their way back

I guess they need to make room for human beings on the list of endangered species.

The local news section bumps the story in favor of the Santa Cruz water rationing emergency, where there is much puzzlement over what the cause could be of excess turbidity in the water, without any mention of Y2K testing or bad remediated code as a possibility.

The business section chose to run on its front page an editorial decrying the importation of foreigners to work on Y2K remediation, as an example of age discrimination. Apparently there are still citizens over-40 who are unemployed.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage.neener.autospammers--regrets.greenspun), August 20, 1999.

yep- even made my paper- Burlington Free press (VT)

-- farmer (hillsidefarm@drbs.net), August 20, 1999.

Yes, Front Page of Cincinnati Post afternoon edition.

-- Bill P (porterwn@one.net), August 20, 1999.

ABC wasn't the only one who omitted that sentence about the report being removed from the web site for no apparent reason. This morning when I got up I checked the Drudge Report link to APBreaking news. A new Navy report had been posted on the AP wire but it also had that last blurb omitted. I assumed at the time that Koskinen had requested that it be omitted.

-- Diane (DDEsq2002@juno.com), August 20, 1999.

Well, look at what the Kansas City Star had to say about it today in their "Y2k Watch" column written by Finn Bullers and David Hayes. I'm link impaired: www.kcstar.com, click on "Business"; the article is a few stories down from the top.

I'm spinning......This is typical of what we get here.....

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), August 21, 1999.

I was able to check the print version of the San Francisco Chronicle yesterday and found the Navy story running on page A6.

Also checked the Merc and saw that Getty article, Dancr... Sheesh! (It's a Knight Ridder publication). Could have been in Thursday's version--don't know. The Santa Cruz water story was good. Will have to locate it and add it to it's thread.

Will check the print versions this morning at the local latte stop. Big Fiesta of the Arts (and wine) in town today... time to party!

I'll lift a glass in "thank you" to the Navy... et. al.

;-D

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 21, 1999.

RUOK,

You wrote: "If I were AP or Ted Bridis, I would be calling my lawyer...this article is copywrited, doesn't that mean it cannot be altered???? "

Nope.

Happens all the time because of media space and time constraints.

Enjoy, Diane.

As for me--today I am cleaning carpets. Weather's nice though. Windows open.

And for everyone else, wait for round two:

I don't believe Jim Lord will remain silent with regard to the Administration's reaction to his "papers."

It will be interesting to see how he responds. (Although I don't anticipate much media coverage unless he comes back with something really dramatic. JMHO.)

:)

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), August 21, 1999.