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Here's Bennet's remarks that you were talking about in an earlier thread.

-- John Ainsworth (ainsje@cstone.net), September 22, 1999

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Too bad Dodd is still cut off. Wonder if C-Span will be running it tomorrow or soon?

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), September 23, 1999.

Ooooh, sounds like Benney Boy is gettin a little nervous comin into the final stretch. He knows he cannot continue to lay on the "everything's fine" crap now, when he's lookin at thousands of gov. systems ready to come unglued and only 100 days to go.

Get this:

"most of the major systems in our country will work, there will not be a horizontal systemic failure"

"We're saying that with this report, the Y2K problems will not be spread across the nation. They will occur across the street. That is, there will be individual problems that will arise."

Oooh, you KNOW what that means...they are going to isolate departments from each other, disconnecting networks between them. So basically he's admitting that many systems will fail, but they're hoping to save some of them by quarantining them from the infected data.

Man, you think the government is slow at getting things done NOW, just wait! Everything that is exchanged between departments on their Intranets is going to have to be done by physical exchange and snail mail.

My God, it is going to be years before they can individually test and reconnect all departments back into a cohesive system. He doesn't want to come right out and say this, but when I read between the lines, that's what it sounds like to me. What d'ya think?

-- @ (@@@.@), September 23, 1999.

@--(@@@.@) What do I think?

I think you are full of it.

-- Laughing at you (shakingmyhead@uarenuts.com), September 23, 1999.

Read the link - and was interested by the last part:

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com

Having neither TV, video nor video-->mpeg (or avi) facilities all I can ask is that someone with the technology orders it and turns it into a computer video-clip...

-- Y2KGardener (gardens@bigisland.net), September 23, 1999.

Laughing,

My question was addressed those who come to this forum to read, not the 10 year old kids who come here to play games because their Nintendo is broken. Be a good little boy and go to bed now, you have school tomorrow.

-- @ (@@@.@), September 23, 1999.

And you'll notice, very specifically, we chose the word "risk exposure assessments" rather than a more inflammatory word that say this will fail.

Do these people try to be a George Orwell novel come to life?

Why not speak english, and be honest, how 'bout that?

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), September 23, 1999.

I found it to be the same old line. But thanks for the link!

-- Mara Wayne (MaraWayne@aol.com), September 23, 1999.

Hi Deborah! How are you, awesome babe?

Mara,

IMO it is a bit more revealing than the stonewalling optimism they've been spinning up to this point. By specifically pointing out "no horizontal failures" he is basically saying there are going to be vertical failures.

-- @ (@@@.@), September 23, 1999.

I called Dodd's office and got his official written statement. It is somewhat don't-worry sounding. Maybe he got cut off because CNN got the statement in advance and decided it was too boring for TV and did not add anything that most government people haven't already been saying already.

There's enough to worry about besides imagining a boogeyman behind every shadow.

-- Ann Y Body (annybody@no.where.dis.org), September 23, 1999.

Feeling a little unsure of the rhetoric here-just what are we talking about with "horizontal" or "Vertcial" failures? Is this a politically correct obfuscation of TSHTF, or does it mean something else? Please explain.

-- LauraA (Laadedah@aol.com), September 23, 1999.

Deborahinfo: Try Orwell's 'Politics & the English Language.' Probably the most incisive essay on the debasement of the language by...well, by liars. "The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When thee is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish squirting out ink."

-- Spidey (in@jam.autumn), September 23, 1999.

@@@@ - I think you're exactly right. They've confirmed what I've been thinking all along. Glad I'm somewhat ready. For every "fluff" sentence, there are 3 "dire" sentences. Yet no one (media) can see this. It's almost as if the Perfect Coverup is taking place. But I don't beleive either the Media or Gov. is smart enough to pull off a massive coverup. So it's more like the stupid leading the stupider ... grin!

Paraphrased: It won't be like the most "opptimistic" reports, neither will it be like the most "apocolyptic" reports. Apocolyptic!!! I never thought in terms of The Postman...now I'm beginning to. 99 days left to go. We are out of time.

-- mar (derigueur2@aol.com), September 23, 1999.

mar,

Glad you see it too. He is warning us, but in avery subtle way, just enough to cover his ass. Glad you are prepared because there are going to be a lot of failures within government, which is going to cause chaos originating from those dependent on them. Businesses - who knows? They are keeping their status under wraps of course.

LauraA,

Let me see if I can clarify. You've undoubtedly seen those organizational charts of governmental departments with vertical paths connecting dependent organizations, and horizontal lines connecting BETWEEN different departments.

OK, let's take for example the Department of Motor Vehicles. You've got your local branch of the DMV in your town, but they are connected to the Main branch in your state capital, and depend on them to function right? The government is going to attempt to keep departments functioning WITHIN themselves, or "vertically". If any computer at your local branch or at the main branch fails or starts producing bad data, you have a vertical failure within that department, and it is then theoretically possible for the entire department to be rendered dysfunctional.

Now, "horizontally" the DMV might also be connected to a government accounting office, city or county offices, banking or financial enitities, etc. I believe what Bennett is saying, because he has categorically denied the possibility of a horizontal failure, is that they are going to break the links BETWEEN different departments, at least temporarily, to prevent possible corruption by bad data, until they are certain which systems are "clean", or capable of interacting with a different organization.

By itself this procedure isn't all that suprising because it will probably be utilized by many organizations that were not able to test between their different branches. The part that I find enlightening is that he has made a specific point to seperate the possibility of horizontal failures without saying a word about vertical, which infers a rather obvious conclusion. Otherwise he would have said "no systemic failures" or, not even mentioned it at all.

-- @ (@@@.@), September 23, 1999.

Thank you, @, you explained that well-I appreciate it.

-- LauraA (Laadedah@aol.com), September 23, 1999.