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Two German Jets Collide Over N.M. The Associated Press Friday, Sept. 24, 1999; 6:45 p.m. EDT CARLSBAD, N.M.  Two German air force jets collided Friday over southeastern New Mexico, but the four pilots ejected safely and parachuted to the ground near a ranch. Ande Marbach of the Kincaid Ranch said she heard the collision and called for help when she saw some of the pilots parachuting down. They appeared to be in good shape, she said. "It sounded like when they break the sound barrier," she said. "I saw smoke from where the planes hit and saw two of them come down. They just asked to call the ambulance and call Holloman," the south-central New Mexico air base where German pilots have been based for several years. Holloman Air Force Base said the men were being taken to a hospital in Carlsbad. The accident, involving two European-made Tornado aircraft belonging to the German air force, happened shortly before 3 p.m., said state police Sgt. Rick Anglada. The German Luftwaffe has trained its pilots at Holloman for years, and its Flying Training Center there currently has about 580 military personnel and about 25 Tornado airplanes. The crash happened about 100 miles southeast of Holloman. ) Copyright 1999 The Associated Press Back to the top

-- sandi (sandihere@mailcity.com), September 24, 1999

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Please let me say this before anyone else does.

"Foreign (German, even!) troops on US soil! Coincidence...I think not. UN, concentration camps, martial law, new world order etc etc".

-- J (j@j.j), September 24, 1999.

The Germans, and others, have been training here in the U.S. for 30 years. Specifically at Luke AFB in Glendale, AZ circa 1974.

Concentrate on your preparations.

-- Lead Mouse in the Wall (greytek@hotmail.com), September 24, 1999.

"Foreign US (German different ethnic backgrounds, even!) troops on < strike>US foreign soil! Coincidence...I think not. UN, concentration camps, martial law, new world order etc etc".

-- PNG (png@gol.com), September 24, 1999.

jjjjerk, welcome to TB2K. You have established your jjjjerky attitude quickly. Please go sit in the Polly corner and share the dunce cap nicely.

-- qqqqquirk (q@q.q), September 24, 1999.

Did you just call PNG a jerk?! =:O

YOU go in the Polly corner right now young troll!!

-- Chris (#$%^&@pond.com), September 24, 1999.

As I recall, isn't there a CIA based torture training facility here in the US that trains right wing fascist government thugs how to control defenseless peasent into submission. Now if I am not mistaken, those thug would not be from the US and they would be on US soil. Any objection from the wacko peanut gallery on that????

-- y2k dave (xsdaa111@hotmail.com), September 24, 1999.

Yes Dave:

I think it exists. There are charges that the Clinton administration that you love so much may have trained the Indonesian Army to suppress dissent in East Timor. We'll see where that one goes.

-- boom cast (boomcast@boom.com), September 24, 1999.

I'm a Constitutionalist, and I believe it's clear that globalists in our government are trying to undermine our national sovereignty, just as they are doing everywhere else (it's not much of a stretch if you look anywhere beyond the nightly news). That said, I see nothing particularly significant or worrysome about Germans training on U.S. soil.

You pollies are just having a spank about nothing, building up little castles so you can knock them down; anything to avoid looking at the reality of your situation.

(Carry on. I'm out of here.)

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), September 25, 1999.

Check these pics out if you feel like it. It shows some of the different foreign soldiers over here training for something. One of my favorite quotes from one of the soldiers was: "Be calm, there is food, there is water in the camp....violation of camp rules will not be tolerated...."

Infowars

Oh yeah....I can't say that any of the stuff at the above site is true or not, so....take it for what it's worth.

-- NokternL (nokternl@anywhereusa.com), September 25, 1999.

German fighter pilots have been training at Holloman AFB for years...

Try again...

growlin'...

The Dog

-- The Dog (Desert Dog@-sand.com), September 25, 1999.

Not only have they been training there, there is a specific portion of the base that has been ceded to Germany, so that THEY can fulfill THEIR constitutional requirement for all training to occur on German Soil. This is NOT NEWS, PEOPLE!!! GO BUY ANOTHER 55 GAL OF HEATING OIL/K1!!

Chuck

PS (PNG: LOL)

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), September 25, 1999.