I wonder if anybody has news that concerns FEMA giving Law enforcement and other group training in DC concerning Y2K. Information given to me indicates the seminars and training deals with power outages, bank run and cash scarcity, and riot and crown control. The information given me indicated that the training is ongoing and that several group from Iowa have attended? Does this sound right that FEMA would be involved with this type of training and has anybody heard about this??

-- y2k dave (xsdaa111@hotmail.com), October 01, 1999

Answers

y2k dave,

If you have been following martial law and executive orders news, you will realize that FEMA is going to be in charge of all law enforcement orders when the Prez puts that plan into action. So of course FEMA would be consulting now with all those it will be directing later on. This is just one more example of things going on behind the news curtain, like all the National Guard directives that have been in place for many months now. Also, remember that the DoD put their bases on alert starting September 1, 1999.

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), October 01, 1999.

Oh but Gordan if you have ever read anything y2kdave has ever posted he's a NWO kinda guy. You see Dave thinks there is nothing wrong with the selling of America's secrets to the Chinese. He contends "thats what all presidents do". And he won't hear of anything other than a Democrat in the White House, he's a real tax the rich, redistributation of wealth, socialist kind of guy.

A real Strobe Talbot kinda guy,right Dave?

Notice the slip "and cash scarcity, and riot and crown control"

Crown control- He would be happy with Bill Clinton being prez for life.

Info given to him-by whom Strobe Talbot? Come on Dave cut this crap out.

You are an "agent provocatour" just trying to flush us out right?

I'll sign my name to this!

-- Johnny (JLJTM@BELLSOUTH.NET), October 01, 1999.

Johnny,

Your on a roll tonite bro'. I hope there are no transsexuals or others with a hidden agenda on the board tonite, Johnny will sniff'em out in a stroke of a cursor. Good Job, Johnny, I was kinda thinkin' the same thing when I saw the thread poster!!! Hell, these days you never know whose zoomin' who??

-- ripley (believeitor@else.net), October 01, 1999.

ripley I stand on my own if you've got something to say then say it!

Who can that be knocking at my door?

Go away! Don't come 'round here no more.

Can't you see its late at night

pretty tired and I'm not feeling right!

-- Johnny (JLJTM@BELLSOUTH.NET), October 01, 1999.

Nightline with Ted Copple, 10:30PM CDT, just aired a half hour segment on special prepardness for bio-war. The other half of the segment will air Tuesday night at 10:35 CDT. According to Nightline and the Mayors and Police Chiefs on the show, much prepardness has been taking place, in case of an Anthrax attack on US soil. This does fall under FEMA, and would be within their jurisdiction. Dave was just a little bit ahead of Ted Copple in posting his message. Shooting the messenger isn't going to change the message..........

-- Nancy (HAYSandCO@aol.com), October 02, 1999.

Could be related... timely too...

FEMA's Radiological Emergency Preparedness Program in Place for 20 Years

http://www.fema.gov/ nwz99/nuclear.htm

Washington, D.C. October 1, 1999 - The Department of State and the Environmental Protection Agency are monitoring the radioactive accident that occurred in Tokaimura, Japan, on September 30, while the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) stands ready to assist is asked.

For the past two decades, dating from the incident at Three Mile Island, FEMA has worked with state and local governments to assure emergency preparedness plans are in place for U.S. commercial nuclear power plants.

FEMA's Radiological Emergency Preparedness Program ensures that the public health and safety of residents living around commercial nuclear power plants are adequately protected in the event of an accident. This program evaluates the adequacy of state and local emergency preparedness plans during regular exercises.

The Federal Radiological Emergency Response Plan outlines the federal response to specific emergencies based on the type of accident, the size of the affected area and the mount of radioactive material involved.

There are 65 commercial nuclear power plants licensed to operate in the U.S. by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. More than 400 state and local government and tribal jurisdictions are involved in the Radiological Emergency Preparedness program.

Updated: October 1, 1999

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), October 02, 1999.

Or...

Popular Y2K Course Now Available Online

http://www.fema.gov/y2k/ y2k701.htm

Washington, July 1, 1999 -- FEMA's popular Y2K course for local and state emergency managers, Getting Ready for Y2K , can now be completed online. The course's goal is to provide the emergency management community with information and tools that will allow them to prepare for the Year 2000 conversion.

The course consists of five lessons --

 Understanding the Y2K Challenge
 Assessing Y2K Readiness
 Developing Y2K Contingency Plans
 Promoting Y2K Public Awareness
 Exercising Y2K Plans

Also included in the course are a toolkit that contains actual documents to be used in Y2K preparedness activities, links to other Y2K resources, and a glossary of terms.

The course is also available from FEMA's Publications Distribution Facility by calling1-800-480-2520 or the material can be downloaded.

Updated: July 1, 1999

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), October 02, 1999.

FEMA
Y2K Regional Workshops

Held in February and March, 1999, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Regional Y2K Workshops were designed to help the nation's emergency management community prepare for potential Y2K transition issues. The workshops provided a forum for state and federal emergency managers to discuss Y2K readiness issues, potential consequences of Y2K disruptions and the coordination of necessary responses among local, state and federal responders.

The following material documents the workshop activities and summarizes lessons learned and recommendations. State and local government officials are encouraged to use any or all of this material in their Y2K workshop planning. ...

http://www.fema.gov/y2k/ wkshp/

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), October 02, 1999.

Interesting speech...

Speech by Kay C. Goss, CEM .
FEMA'S Associate Director for Preparedness,
Training AND Exercises

"Y2K AND FEMA"

7X24 Exchange Spring '99 Conference
Washington, DC * May 25, 1999

http://www.fema.gov/ pte/gosspch66.htm

[snip]

Your conference theme is End-to-End Reliability of mission-critical enterprise information infrastructures. The emergency management profession has that theme as one of its key attributes - we must be ready to perform reliably - 24 hours a day every day of the year. This is especially true for "first responders" - the fire fighters, police, and emergency medical technicians who are the first on the scene in a disaster. Those folks must always be 7X24 ready - human lives depend on it. And the people, equipment, and facilities that support first responders must be "end-to-end reliable" in order for emergency services to be provided rapidly, effectively and reliably.

Two essential pillars of this support are communications and information systems. Incident reporting, dispatch, field coordination, command and control, resource allocation, victim treatment, and scene restoration all depend on reliable and accurate communications and information management. And, when a disaster or emergency exhausts first responder capabilities, the State must employ its resources. Should the situation exhaust State resources, then the Governor may request a Presidential emergency or disaster declaration. When the President approves such a request, the Federal Response Plan, with the resources of its 27 signatories, goes into action. The governing Federal statute for these arrangements is the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, as amended.

Likewise, communications and information systems are essential pillars of State and Federal emergency management capabilities. Accordingly, it is imperative that the emergency management community successfully meet the Y2K computer conversion challenge. The community is comprised of local, State, and Federal governments, private volunteer organizations, and business and industry. All of these partners must work together in order for emergency management to succeed.

7X24 Exchange members supply critical services since you "design, build, use and maintain mission-critical enterprise information infrastructures." The failure of one or more mission-critical systems for a business or industrial facility can constitute an emergency for them. The key difference for FEMA and our emergency management partners is that we are concerned with large-scale disasters or emergencies which impact or threaten lives, public health and safety, and property.

Y2K presents a unique challenge to emergency management. We have never experienced a hazard like this one - with a time and date certain for occurrence, yet so much uncertainty regarding the potential number, scope, and impact of problems from Y2K conversion failures. The ubiquity of computers and embedded chips in our personal and economic lives, the inter-connectivity of computer systems; and the hourly- changing remediation efforts, make it virtually impossible to obtain a detailed, timely picture of Y2K readiness. And, that picture is changing literally hourly when aggregated to the State, national, and international levels. So, Y2K truly is "the un-natural hazard."

[snip]

FEMA Y2K ROLES AND ACTIVITIES

FEMA has five key Y2K roles, all under the executive leadership of our Deputy Director, Mike Walker. These entail:

[snip]

5. Ensuring that the Federal Response Plan procedures and resources are ready to operate in the event of Presidentially-declared emergencies resulting from Y2K conversion problems. This effort is lead by Lacy Suiter, Executive Associate Director of the Response and Recovery Directorate.

[snip]

SUPPORTING STATE AND LOCAL PREPAREDNESS

To put it succinctly, the Y2K mission of my Directorate is to reduce the likelihood of needing a Federal response to the consequences of State and local Y2K problems. To the extent that we are successful, our efforts will help reduce the odds of requests from States for Presidential emergency declarations. Of course, our efforts alone cannot achieve this mission - it requires the concerted effort of all members of the emergency management partnership.

We have nine major Y2K activities in the PT&E Directorate:

1. The publication of Y2K preparedness guidance for State and local emergency managers;

2. Planning, developing materials for, supporting, and reporting on Y2K workshops and exercises that involve State, Federal and National leadership;

3. Development of training courses for State and local emergency managers and FEMA employees;

4. Developing and broadcasting Emergency Education Network programs that provide State and local emergency managers a forum to share their experiences with programs that have worked to prepare their communities for Y2K;

5. Monitoring the Y2K preparedness status of the State and local government emergency management community;

6. Conducting outreach activities with States, Tribal Nations, local governments, and other segments of the emergency management partnership, including providing contingency and consequence management planning assistance;

7. Identifying and publicizing Y2K exemplary practices;

8. Supporting FEMA's Y2K information clearing house, operated by our Office of Public Affairs; and,

9. Supporting, and consulting with, the Emergency Services Sector Working Group of the President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion.

[snip]

Workshops and Exercises

[snip]

Over 1,500 Federal, State, U.S. Territory, and local government emergency managers and volunteer agency representatives participated in these 1*-day efforts. The workshops were designed to:

 provide a forum for the emergency management and emergency services community to discuss and resolve issues at the State and Regional level;  clarify expectations among Federal, State and local governments;  identify preparedness needs and vulnerabilities; and  surface policy issues that should be resolved at the Federal or National levels.

The results from the workshops are a prioritized listing of the emergency management community's view of the Nation's vulnerabilities, critical issues and recommended actions to mitigate and respond to possible consequences of Y2K computer problems. Over 20 cross-cutting issues and more than 1,600 specific recommendations were identified. Many of these were reviewed during the Federal Response Plan Tabletop Exercise, conducted last Wednesday. I want to review some of the cross-cutting issues are:

 Public Awareness is the primary concern of all States and Regions. There is a need to launch an immediate, aggressive, and measurable public awareness/preparation campaign at all levels.

 In the assessment area, a significant problem is finding out how local municipalities stand with regard to Y2K preparation. Better assessment mechanisms are needed to verify vulnerabilities, capabilities, and procedures.

 The need to continue public and private planning and preparation was reemphasized at each workshop.

 In nine of the ten workshops continued training and exercises were identified as a key to Y2K preparedness, assessment, and remediation efforts.

 Significant concerns about Y2K preparedness within the medical community were raised at many of the workshops.

Recommendations that require higher policy authority, legislation or additional funding, will be brought to a Cabinet level review through a National Level Tabletop Exercise, scheduled in September. ...

[snip]

Training and EENET

[snip]

...A guiding principle for our training efforts has been our shared belief and commitment to what Mike Walker said about Y2K education. That is, "We need to tell the American people everything we know for an educated public is a strong public and a strong public will always make the right decision."

[snip]

Our worst enemy in this situation is NOT the Y2K bug - it is panic due to misinformation and over-reaction. Because of the potential for a multitude of nearly simultaneous, small scale, Y2K outages in numerous locations, we are emphasizing self-sufficiency. Accordingly, make the preparations you need to be able to function on your own, using the resources in your community, for three days or so. Then, even if you don't experience any significant Y2K outages, you will be better prepared for the next disaster which may come your way.

[snip]

Federal Response Preparedness

During the Regional workshops we sponsored, States were asked to identify their top three anticipated Y2K resource shortfalls. 42 States have responded and the initial indications are:

 Emergency power and generators;
 Communications;
 Mass care - shelters, food, water and sanitation; and
 Emergency public information.

The current policies applying to Federal response for Y2K are:

 Response to Y2K consequences should be handled at the local and State level prior to requesting Federal assistance.

 A Presidential "emergency" rather than "major disaster" declaration will be made if Y2K consequences exceed State/local response resources.

 Except in extreme life-threatening situations, Federal response resources may not be deployed until an initial nationwide needs assessment has been conducted.

 Federal operations will be decentralized to the Region to the maximum extent possible. Overall policymaking and resource deconfliction, not resolved in the Region, will be centralized at Headquarters. And,

 Critical resource allocation decisions will be based upon threats to life, public health and safety, and property.

[snip]

The speech...

http://www.fema.gov/ pte/gosspch66.htm

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), October 02, 1999.

Don't know about FEMA but the National Guard is definitely doing more training than normal. Friend of mine had to take 3 weeks off work for extensive training, plus several weekend gigs. When he joined they told him it would be 2 weeks per year. Says they haven't told him about any special Y2K operations yet (on a "need to know" basis?), but that is more training than normal.

-- @ (@@@.@), October 02, 1999.

Diane,

Many thanks for the post as it does explain alot except for the public awareness bit?? It is very odd at this late point that the "public" is still sleeping and FEMA says this.

Jonnie,

Sorry for the typo as it should read "CROWD" control. I should do a little more proofreading before posting as you "paraniods" tend to take everything to heart. I like the NWO piece and I wonder how I can get membership into that organization. Do they give black helicoptor rides at their meeting?? And why are people better off under a Democrat president than the last wimpie republican one?? No I am not trying to flush out the paraniods on this board as they come out all the time... KING WILLIE LOL. You guys just kill me. Since the last monarchy of REAGAN ended, you have been crying in your soup on a daily basis and just cannot get over it can you.

-- y2k dave (xsdaa111@hotmail.com), October 02, 1999.

Boy, davey, are you in for a big surprise. An ample supply of canned goods just ain't gonna cut it for you my friend.

Rotsa ruck. :)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), October 02, 1999.

Will,

My supplies of goods increases every day. Shopping is easy with little hurry as the sheeple sleep. I have a bug out plan and an alternative place to go if TSHTF in my city.

-- y2k dave (xsdaa111@hotmail.com), October 02, 1999.

J-O-H-N-N-Y

Thats how you spell my name.

Why do you post all that crap dave? To me it just seems to be to provoke. By the responses you get it really seems that you flush out us paranoids. I suspect this IS why you do it, and if that is the case then you are as bad as any TROLL that has posted or anything al-d did.

No I don't cry in my soup everyday. I am not a republican. The first part of my life I was a Democrat as they seemd to be the only ones who cared about the Farmer. But even that has changed now. Now I'm a fiscally conservative. Whoever is going to cut waste gets my vote.

About the president I only for for the guy who has served in the Military. To me that should be the First criteria- military service.

Have a good day Dave.

-- Johnny (JLJTM@BELLSOUTH.NET), October 02, 1999.

Sorry to hear you're in a city dave, that's almost more upsetting than the political views you've been sharing for the past few weeks.

More ruck to ya than before. :)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), October 02, 1999.

Johnie,

One mans crap is another mans fertilizer. What you consider crap may not be crap to our tree hugging hippie types that are also preparing for y2k. Just because your politicals are different than mine doesn't mean we can't learn to prepare together. Though the views expressed by many on this board are not necessarily mine, I have learned alot from them. Why do my postings PROVOKE and yours do not?? Is it becuase they go against the flow of conservative and libertarian thoughts that abound here??? I say that many of the OT posting by obvious clinton hater and other right-wing ramblings are no better than TROLLS but would you support that???

Will,

I am about 2 miles from the countryside and many rural roads that will hopefully lead me to safety if need be.

-- y2k dave (xsdaa111@hotmail.com), October 02, 1999.

FEMA does lots of good and should be commended for it. If only you knew the kind of pressure thy were under...

On the other hand, certain aspects of FEMA--namely their secretive, vestigial cold war installations and underground C & C facilities need to be questioned. I don't know if they are a mysterious "police force" but many of their "bunkers" are guarded by armed patrols and roving, unmarked surveillance vehicles.

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), October 02, 1999.