(snip from other thread)

(1) Fewer than half of the largest U.S. companies are expected to complete Y2K remediation on critical systems prior to 1/1/00. (2) The U.S. federal government has missed three deadlines for compliance.

(3) Corporate budgets have increased up to five-fold for Y2K remediations after underestimating the scope of the problem.

(4) 60% of British corporations are stockpiling goods and raw materials.

(5) Edward Yardeni, chief economist at the investment bank Deutsche Morgan Grenfell, estimates a 70 percent probability that Y2K will cause a global recession or an energy crisis because of weak links in the supply chain.

(6) Two of the countrys largest PR agencies have set up "spin-doctoring teams" to assist companies in "explaining away" Y2K issues.

(7 ) Y2K compliance claims are often bogus. Vendor "lying rates" have been discovered to be as high as 50%.

(8) An independent bank ratings company has found evidence contradictory to status reports of federal bank regulators.

(9) The Pentagon has acknowledged falsifying Y2K readiness reports.

(10) The electric industry group, NERC, has stated that utilities are 99% ready. However, their report indicates that the actual figure is only 70%.

(11) NERC has refused to reveal non-compliant power companies to the Dept. of Energy, according to a verified internal memorandum.

(12) The Chief Operating Officer of a company which has remediated 100 electric utilities stated, ``the whole grid won't collapse, but there will be outages that could last up to several weeks.''

(13) The U.S. House has required that agencies prepare Y2K contingency plans that assume systems failures.

(14) The Year 2000 Program Manager for Washington D.C. has prepared contingency plans for one to two weeks without power, which she cites as the expected national average.

(15) Washington D.C. plans a "massive mobilization" of emergency personnel, and will open 21 warming shelters in local schools on New Year's Eve.

(16) The Red Cross is organizing shelters in every community to provide "mass care services" in the event of Y2K disruptions of power, water, sewer, heat, and delivery of food.

(17) The San Diego Police Dept. has advised each officer to purchase an RV and stock it with food and water in preparation for service disruptions and civil unrest.

(18) Special U.S. Army forces are engaged in a secret operation to protect food distribution centers in the event of a Y2K emergency.

(19) The British government has engaged secret plans for elite special forces, comparable to U.S. Navy Seals, to deal with outbreaks of civil disorder and collapse of utilities due to Y2K problems, and to protect government sites, banks, airports and power stations.

(20) The U.S. Marines recently held a training session in which the proposed scenario was an angry mob of federal workers who had not received paychecks due to Y2K computer problems, and were storming government buildings.

(21) A new disaster law in Oregon provides for emergency powers of the City Manager, including confiscation of equipment, vehicles and other property.

(22) During a Y2K test in Los Angeles, a treatment plant dumped 3 million gallons of raw sewage into a city park.

(23) Austin, TX has ordered 25 generators to protect city operations, sewage and water plants from Y2K power outages.

(24) FEMA has purchased 1,000 generators which shall be distributed to states to be used in the event of Y2K power outages.

(25 ) A Milwaukee power company has advised customers to consider the purchase of an electric generator.

(26) Senator Bennett, Chairman of the Senate Y2K Committee, has stated that he will stock over two weeks' worth of food and water in preparation for Y2K.

(27) Rep. George Grindley, Chairman of the Georgia Y2K Taskforce, has indicated that he will stock over three months' worth of food and water in preparation for Y2K.

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References (1) Fewer Than Half of Major Firms Anticipate Full Year 2000 Compliance in Critical Systems by Year's End NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 10, 1999 http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001D Zz

(2) Actions Speak Louder Than Words, Michael Hyatt, July 28, 1999 http://www.m ichaelhyatt.com/editorials/actions.htm

(3) Y2K Budgets Jump As Much As Five-Fold After Underestimating Task of Preparing for Y2K http://www.weissratin gs.com/y2k_72699.htm

(4) Firms Stockpile to Beat Y2K Bug, The Sunday Times, June 13, 1999 http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001E Sb

(5) Y2K Still Likely to Spark Recession: Forecaster Jim Wolf, Aug. 10, 1999 (Reuters) http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001DfX

(6) Public Relations Experts Preparing Y2K Spin-Doctoring http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0019 Q0

(7) User Beware -- Y2K Compliance Claims Could Be Bogus Richard Burnett , The Orlando Sentinel, July 1, 1999 ht tp://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/y2k/s070199_y2k01_19.htm

(8) 17% OF U.S. Banks Receive "Below Average" Y2K Grades; 5% Rated "Low," Findings Contradict Regulators Tallies and Over 30% of Banks Admit Missing Y2K Deadline, Contradicting Government Assurances http://www.weissrating s.com/inthenew.htm

(9) Pentagon Exaggerated Y2K Readiness, USA Today, Jan. 26, 1999 http://www.u satoday.com/life/cyber/tech/ctd907.htm

(10) Cover-up of Laggards Continues: Is electric industry's report intentionally confusing? David Franke, World Net Daily, Aug. 4, 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_franke_news/199 90804_xndfr_coverup_la.shtml

(11) FEMA Left in the Dark: Power companies cover up Y2K troubles David M. Bresnahan, World Net Daily, Aug. 3, 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/1999080 3_xex_fema_left_da.shtml

(12) Utilities Say They're Y2K Ready, Though Blackouts Expected Bloomberg, June 30, 1999 http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0011fE

(13) Freedom Works: Home Page of the Office of the House Majority Leader http://freedom.hous e.gov/y2k/grades/how.asp

(14) Official & complete 60 MINUTES Transcript, May 23, 1999 http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000r qn

(15) D.C. Plans To Mobilize Workers For Y2K Backup; City Still Far Behind in Fixing Computers ERIC LIPTON, WASHINGTON POST STAFF WRITER, Monday, June 28, 1999 ; Page A01 http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001D uP

(16) Red Cross Disaster Planning: Preparations include shelters in communities country-wide David M. Bresnahan, World Net Daily, Aug. 5, 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/1999080 5_xex_red_cross_di.shtml

(17) San Diego cops' Special Preparations: Officers told to get ready for family survival, increase in crime David M. Bresnahan, World Net Daily, July 12, 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/1999071 2_xex_san_diego_co.shtml

(18) Army Prepares For Y2K Food Crisis, Undercover Special Forces operatives in distribution center David M. Bresnahan, World Net Daily, May 24, 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/1999052 4_xex_army_prepare.shtml

(19) Soldiers Pull Out of Kosovo to Deal With Millennium Bug Chaos Hugh McManners, Defence Correspondent, The Sunday Times, July 18, 1999 http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/07/18/s tinwenws01039.html?999

(20) Marines Train in Preparation for Workers Potential Y2K Anger STEVE VOGEL, WASHINGTON POST, March 18, 1999 ; Page J06 http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001D wK

(21) City Manager Gets Added Power if Disaster Occurs SCOTT MABEN, The Register-Guard, August 10, 1999 http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001D qD

(22) Fears of Sewage Spill Delay Y2K Test at Plant Los Angeles Times, By Patrick McGreevy and Karima A. Haynes, June 19, 1999 http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000ycn

(23) Cities Snapping Up Generators For Y2K, Austin-American Statesman, July 26, 1999 http ://austin360.com/news/1metro/1999/07/26generators.html

(24) FEMA Readies For The Bug: What the agency is doing to prepare for Y2K David M. Bresnahan, World Net Daily, Aug. 5, 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/1999080 5_xex_fema_readies.shtml

(25) The Alliant Situation: Yet More Bizarre, E.L. Core, December 1, 1998 htt p://www.y2ktimebomb.com/Industry/Utilities/lcore9847.htm

(26) Y2K Forecasts, CBN Newsstand, David Snyder, July 20, 1999 http://www.cbn. org/newsstand/stories/990720.asp

(27) Georgia Representative Says Federal Government is Deliberately Misrepresenting Y2K Status of Power Grid http://www.JustInCase Y2K.com/grindley.htm

-- mabel (mabel_louise@yahoo.com), October 26, 1999.

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-- Tinfoil hat wearing brain eatin' doomer zombie nutbag (just when y2k fatigue numbed my skull,here comes m@b.el), October 26, 1999

Answers

Excellent Mabel. Or terrible, rather.

A keeper.

-- a (a@a.a), October 26, 1999.

And the hits just keep on coming. I think I will go can something.

-- smfdoc (smfdoc@aol.com), October 26, 1999.

Seems like a lot of effort for a three-day snowstorm that will be fixed by a handful of mainframe programmers eating pizza.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), October 26, 1999.

1) It could take a lifetime of pizza...

2) I had someone tell me today (at a Y2K meeting) that it is all fixed, and that it is totally over-hyped...and will be a non-event.

3) I tend to very much agree with the conclusion that Mabel's information requires...

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), October 26, 1999.

No pollyanic comment yet? Here, let me try my "Hoff whistle":

HEY CHARLIE BROWN! COME OVER HERE AND HOLD THIS FOOTBALL!

-- a (a@a.a), October 26, 1999.

Hmmm. Well, for starters:

(1) Fewer than half of the largest U.S. companies are expected to complete Y2K remediation on critical systems prior to 1/1/00.

These figures apparently refer to all systems, and the number is now 56%. See Rubin's testimony to the Senate: ht tp://www.senate.gov/~y2k/hearings/991013/st991013rubin.htm.

(2) The U.S. federal government has missed three deadlines for compliance.

Hyatt completely misrepresents the intermediate government milestones; they were not for complete compliance, but for Remediation, Testing, and Implementation. And yes, many did make the milestones.

(3) Corporate budgets have increased up to five-fold for Y2K remediations after underestimating the scope of the problem.

(8) 17% OF U.S. Banks Receive "Below Average" Y2K Grades; 5% Rated "Low," Findings Contradict Regulators Tallies and Over 30% of Banks Admit Missing Y2K Deadline, Contradicting Government Assurances http://www.weissrating s.com/inthenew.htm

The Weiss Ratings are a complete joke. The guy can't even read SEC reports. He was completely wrong about at least 5 of the companies he mentions, including the one generating the "5-fold Increase". He's "wised up" lately, and now doesn't publish his "numbers".

See http://x36.deja.com/=gh/[ST_rn=ps]/ge tdoc.xp?AN=506426435&CONTEXT=940992918.242942034&hitnum=67

(10) The electric industry group, NERC, has stated that utilities are 99% ready. However, their report indicates that the actual figure is only 70%.

The 99% refers to work required. The 70% refers to complete entities. Comparing the figures is inaccurate. For an updated list, see ftp://ftp.nerc.com/pub/sys/all_updl/docs/y2k/Y2k-Ready-102299.PDF

(11) NERC has refused to reveal non-compliant power companies to the Dept. of Energy, according to a verified internal memorandum.

The WND article proved to be BS. The "secret memo" was publicly available, and NERC in fact did explicitly list those reporting "exceptions".

Sorry, all I've got time for now.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), October 26, 1999.

Off?

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), October 26, 1999.

Canning works for me, smfdoc.

Just got back from another one of the "Y2k Community Conversations" meetings here in metro KC.

After I settle down a bit, I'll post what went on.

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), October 26, 1999.

a (a@a.a),

That was dang impressive.

-- the Virginian (1@1.com), October 26, 1999.

BTW, M-C, Cory's going to be so disappointed you haven't been "helping out" lately.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), October 26, 1999.

Actually, I just checked and it looks like Cory's napping. Now shutup and hold the damn football.

Regards,

Mini-Cory

-- a (a@a.a), October 26, 1999.

No problem, M-C.

But didn't Lucy tell you, you're supposed to tee the ball on the ground, and not with your mouth?

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), October 27, 1999.

Would it be okay with you if we shortened your name to numbskull? You know, just to save some time...

-- Gia (laureltree7@hotmail.com), October 28, 1999.

Now, Now Gia. We must try and be tolerant.

Besides, "numbskull" is longer than 'a', not shorter.

-- Hoffmeister (hoff_meister@my-deja.com), October 28, 1999.

Our black walnut tree is the most loaded that it's ever been. I hate black walnuts, but they're food. Guess it's time to go out with the kids and pick them up. It's posts like this that make me look funny at the dandelion plants all over the yard, and the cattails down the road. Sigh...

-- Ann M. (hismckids@aol.com), October 28, 1999.