I live in Santa Cruz Ca, they are spraying right now. A big X, plus grid like patterns. Three planes. I thought my sister was nuts when she first started telling me about this. You can see it dispersing and drifting down. This is not a normal trail. I don't know what it is but is something being sprayed!

-- me (me@santa cruz.com), November 09, 1999

Answers

I was just looking at this site when I saw your post.

www. islandnet.com/~wilco/investsky.htm

Some good info on the spraying going on nationwide and the illnesses associated with it.701

-- Sharon (sking@drought-ridden.com), November 09, 1999.

How long will people put up for this??

-- Z (Z@Z.Z), November 09, 1999.

I thought it is against Federal law to eject something from an airplane

-- Z (Z@Z.Z), November 09, 1999.

I went to island net and it said that they didn't have that page there. Can anyone give me a link? Thank you, Q

-- Curly~Q (Curly@Q.COM), November 09, 1999.

Last night we saw huge chemtrails from the planes. Upper midwest. Never saw them so huge in my life...and I is old!!!!

-- (notGonna@tellyou.com), November 09, 1999.

Looks like a space slipped into Sharon's Link ... Here it is.

Link

-- John (jh@NotReal.ca), November 09, 1999.

I'm in northern Wisc., on Lake Superior. We've been watching these contrails off and on for a couple of weeks now. (At least that's how long we've been noticing them.) VERY strange. I started looking on the net further and to my amazement found so much documentation; photos, eye witness accounts, and even scarier, many accounts of people getting sick some of the time. Upper respiratory ailments, mostly. And of course, wouldn't you know that there are lot's of folks sick around here (small town) with bronchitis etc. right now, myself included. Even went to the doctor (something I almost never do) as cough was so bad. Who knows?

But in my net search I ran across that William Cohen speech given - last spring? - about needing to prepare our country for the almost sure-to-happen bio attack. Of all the possible and/or plausible reasons for this apparent spraying program, innoculation seems the most logical to me. And the need to do it quickly, without a lot of discussion, may account for the deafening official silence around it. If the symptoms people are discribing (and what I'm experiencing) are in fact caused by this spraying, they (the symptoms) are consistant with the side effects of some innoculations. Does this notion make sense??

-- cat (ccordes@ashland.baysat.net), November 09, 1999.

Cat,

My throat has been sore all day. I went out to look at the sunset and saw patterns of chemtrails in the Sky. I felt depressed and sick all day today. Not only is this weather really wierd, so are those trails. I just have this feeling of impending doom. Can't wait till the new year is over.

-- (NotGonna@tellyou.com), November 09, 1999.

"I thought it is against Federal law to eject something from an airplane."

Not for the military, they can do whatever the hell they want "in the interest of national security."

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), November 09, 1999.

Hawk,

Why don't you fly up there and see what the hell is going on. :) I thought this was all bull till I saw the trails for myself last night.

-- (NotGonna@tell.com), November 09, 1999.

cough, cough, gag, heeuuy, sputter, cough... not thanks, I'm already dizzy from flyin thru that crap... it's killin all my little critter friends that i like for lunch too!

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), November 09, 1999.

There is a lot more going on that seems like "bunk" at first, until it bites you on the butt.

Keep an open mind, and don't wait for it to bite you; don't laugh at those nursing their wounds, either. Our world is changing, and it may be 180 degrees. The reality they fed you with your chocolate milk is coming apart like a dream.

-- Dr. Polymorph (theyknowmore@thanIdo.com), November 09, 1999.

Jeez... stop already. Get a GRIP. This is panic mongering and propagandizing at it's very worst. NO substantiation. NO demonstrable evidence, just pandering to the fear and tension everyone feels over the possiblity that y2k will be a significant event.

Now someone is going to send me to the sites I have already visited. Do you think for a half-second that the people who plan things like you are describing are STUPID? If they were going to spray you, covertly, why wouldn't it look any different than the normal traffic from major airports on any given day. They would just hide their contrails in with everyone else's and that would be it.

Just stop and THINK on this. I have said elsewhere, there are people in this world whose sole purpose in life it to sew the seeds of discontent and fear into the people of this country. Before you embrace this speculation, ensure you are not being dupped by some OTHER government...

Jeeez...

-- (...@.......), November 09, 1999.

oh sure, no one could ever pull off anything against this country's citizens in broad daylight? and if so there would be a tremendous outcry. you bet. what about the nuclear testing back in the 50s? what about those poor people that were allowed to go untreated for syphyllis (SP)? what about all those little nearly born babies that get scissor stuck in their necks and have there brains sucked out? what about a president and a democratic party that are selling us out to the chinese and a bunch of socialists? and that is only to name a few.

-- tt (cuddluppy@yahoo.com), November 09, 1999.

I seen these damn things for the first time this morning. What made it so strange was that a jet was flying high above the chemtrail grid exhausting a normal contrail. This contrail disapated within 10 seconds. The "chemtrails" hung in the air for hours. The prevailing wind was pushing them toward South Bend, IN This is probably the most comprehensive writing on the history of the chemtrail phenomenon
Chemtrails

-- Rainman (rainman@uh-oh.com), November 09, 1999.

"why wouldn't it look any different than the normal traffic from major airports on any given day. They would just hide their contrails in with everyone else's and that would be it."

This is certainly a rational argument. But it fails to address either the existence of these deliberately constructed grid-like patterns, or their purpose, whatever it may be. This project must be ferociously expensive, and it wasn't organized to relieve aircrew boredom.

It isn't normal practice.

Somebody is doing it deliberately.

They must have a reason.

Go figure.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), November 09, 1999.

"why wouldn't it look any different than the normal traffic from major airports on any given day. They would just hide their contrails in with everyone else's and that would be it."

Once you've seen the real thing it's obvious why they don't look the same. Regular jet contrails are like frost in the air that just dissipates quickly. The dangerous ones are like cobwebs, long, stringy, milky goo that just slowly spreads out across large sections of the sky, depending on the wind. It's obviously mixed with some substance that is designed to provide the maximum range of dispersion, yet keep it hanging in the lower atmosphere as long as possible in order to mix thouroughly with the air we breathe. You'll know it ain't normal when you see it on a day when they are laying it on thick, its disgusting. Whatever substance they are using, apparently they couldn't figure out how to make it transparent like water, because it is pretty obvious.

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), November 09, 1999.

After about a month of no "action" spraying resumed in the san francisco bay area today.

-- Incredulous (sideshow333@hotmail.com), November 09, 1999.

Why don't they make them look like normal contrail?

Normal contrail are formed from the hot air leaving an airplanes engines in cold air at high altitude. Chemtrails would never reach the earths surface in any consistency if released at such a high altitude, they have to be released much much lower so that the upper air currents do not blow them miles and miles off target.

Thats the short answer as to why they can't mingle them in with the normal contrails of jet traffic.

I thought this was all a load of crap..until I saw it with my own eyes. There is so much photo and eyewitness accounts of this, its hard to belive the public has not reacted more strongly?

-- RainMan! (RaineyDM@aol.com), November 10, 1999.

From: Y2K, ` la Carte by Dancr (pic), near Monterey, California

Santa Cruz... San Francisco... confirmatory. We had spraying here in the nearby Salinas area, too.

-- Dancr (addy.available@my.webpage), November 10, 1999.

Check the Thomas interview on Sightings.com, "archives, 1999."

Many answers for you there.

-- Dr. Polymorph (theyknowmore@thanwedo.com), November 10, 1999.

I honestly am surprised that you folks didn't just hammer me for my previous post. Thanks kindly. I have looked a a few dozen of the photos that are being passed around and I have not seen a single one that was really concrete. I am not saying that this IS NOT happening. I am saying point me to a REALLY good photo of some activity I can say is not normal contrails.

Normal contrails DO NOT dissapate in ten seconds. I have seen those as well. But I have seen these long cloudlike contrails all my life and all over the world.

It is VERY difficult to determine altitude from a single location on the ground. Contrails that converge to a point are probably aircraft going to an air hub. Contrails that cross those are probably going to a different air hub.

I am NOT trying to be difficult, please SHOW me a photo I can't discount. That will be difficult BECAUSE it is difficult to get a photo that is hard to discount. A picture of a plane spraying is just that and nothing more. It might have been taken anywhere and anytime. The best documentation I have seen so far had a location where the picture was taken. There were houses and stores in the photo as well as several converging contrails which by inference from the direction of the sunset were headed to DFW. There was a crossing contrail as well.

Let me be the skeptic then, SHOW ME SOMETHING I CAN GET MY TEETH INTO.

Oh, yeah, I quite agree that the current administration has engaged in activities which are totally unacceptable. Unfortunaly an emotional diatribe about that is not proof of this.

-- (...@.......), November 10, 1999.

And its Jan 2003 I got into Santa Cruz at 10 am and say them spraying.. then stopping and Spraying again. It looked to be a clear nice winter day by noon the grids were in place from SC to Capitola and you could not see blue sky. When the planes finished they headed N/NW.

-- JD Nails (contrails@dorazi.org), January 04, 2003.

it's true. they are spraying all over the place. we need to alert people so they can demand that this biological attack on the residents of santa cruz county stop now. this is urgent. don't believe the disinformation. most people are asleep to the truth, but they will see if show them. act now.

-- paul jones (paul@wakeupnow.com), March 26, 2003.