Surviving Wild Dogs

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Hey, I just finished listening to a radio show, and jotted notes on TB2000, and am pasting the info here incase you guys haven't talked about this.

============================= I'm listening to an old trapper on genesis, on old country survival. http://gcnlive.2z.net/

I'm gonna add here some of his tips, I just wanted to paste the site real quick incase anyone wants to tune in...

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 10, 1999

Answers Thanks Hokie. Am tuned in.

-- haha (haha@haha.com), December 10, 1999.

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This guys says after WWII in Europe, especially countries suffering the food shortages from communism, folks he has talked to who survived those days told him stories of roving pacts of wild dogs as the biggest danger. Families without food for pets would, rather than put the animal down, would release them. So these dogs would turn wild, and form pacts of 30 to 40 dogs, sometimes up to 150. This trapper sees post y2k presenting a tremendous problem in this country of wild pacts of dogs for the same reason. Folks told him that in the communist countries they had to give up their weapons, so if they wanted to take a walk, especially at night, they would go in groups of at least 5 people all carrying bats to beat off the wild dogs. Tips follow. The code was: make it to the first doorway, and even if you didn't know the family, they would put you up for the night for safety.Pacts were in cities, and even roving the woods or countryside.

His survival tips (I typed as he spoke, then cut to paste here):

Hold your ground; don't try to outrun cause you will NEVER make it (unlike the guys in movies, the dogs WILL take you down he said). Don't show fear. Shoot the first pack leader, then the next. Usually if you down 3 then the others may hightail it. Hold your ground, never back down or show fear. If you show fear then that may frenzy them. If you don't have a weapon, grab a stick to beat them. If you have nothing, then climb a tree!!!

Don't panic cause once you panic, you are dead, he said.

Anyone else have tips on this? My thought are: Never let your child out unattended, or without a weapon/mace. I suppose we will see humans as well resort to a pact mentality, and we have talked about that. He said definitely watch your livestock, and keep your dog tied so he won't chase them and be killed (but I guess if you have a working farm dog, or preferably a pact then of working dogs, it will be their job to fight off these dogs?)

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 10, 1999.

-- Hokie (nn@va.com), December 10, 1999

Answers

Hokie, another old trapper has a web site at Buckshot's Camp. He has about 4 articles on dealing with feral dogs.

Basically, you're right, in that you have to take down both the alpha and beta dogs, leaving the pack leaderless.

Uh, Hokie, mace won't do it: a 12 gauge with 0 or 00 buckshot or a good 30.06 or .308 semiautomatic will. Maybe a 9 mm or 45 cal handgun. Forget about a .22 rimfire, too.

Your local shepard dog or herd dog will be useless against the numbers of wild dogs in a pack, Hokie. That's why the guys says to keep your own dog tied up.......no sense in losing a good trained dog against impossible odds.

This could become a real problem if people begin abandoning dogs. Read the 4 articles in the link above.......it's a problem now, and it's a problem in suburbia, not just rural areas.

Those people who refuse to keep a gun in their house may soon find a really good reason to reverse that decision -- when it's too late.

-- no (wild@dogs.here), December 11, 1999.


Hire yourself a Korean, or Chinese cook. Food,and dog problem solved!!

-- King of the castle (mystic mind@ thinking.now), December 11, 1999.

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