Stupid statements of the doomidiots (plant here for all to see)

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This thread will be dedicated to just plain STUPID statements made by the doom crowd.

Here is one from the "hawk" of StinkAss2000 fame:

I can't wait for Y2K to start screwing things up. I'm going to do a lot of laughing next year. If the pollys are rude enough to laugh and ridicule those who calmly and faithfully follow their instincts, then I am sure as hell rude enough to laugh my ass of when they start tripping out. This is gonna be fun! -- Hawk (flyin@high.again), November 14, 1999.

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.onfrauds), December 27, 1999

Answers

"The good news? You (and all the other pollyannas who have your head stuck in the sand) will stop consuming valuable resources, like air." - Steve Heller

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.onfrauds), December 27, 1999.

He's a real idiot and a menace to society. My only regret about his imminent awakening to reality is that I won't be able to see his face when he realizes that he was "dead wrong". -- Steve Heller (stheller@koyote.com), December 15, 1999.

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.onfrauds), December 27, 1999.

It's pathetic. We warn them. They don't listen. We pray for them. They remain asleep.

May our Living God have mercy on the idiots.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), November 20, 1999.

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.onfrauds), December 27, 1999.


Attention all overweight people:

Don't stress out! Your blubber will sustain you when the governmental rations run out.

Sheesh. Get a grip on your love handles...

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), November 20, 1999.

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.onfrauds), December 27, 1999.


Tell them (if you choose to tell them anything) that you TOO have the Lord... and you were told to prepare.

But I agree... the time for this is past. Best to keep quiet now.

Darwin's law is Y2K compliant. Won't be long now.

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), November 20, 1999.

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.onfrauds), December 27, 1999.



The great mass of people are, and have been, carried by the relatively few who can think ahead for at least a planting or hunting season. Without genetics (note to Christians: evolution) that selected for at least a few people in each tribe to think ahead (OR ELSE) we would still be hunter gatherers being selected for or against by the ability to see the necessity to at least get out of the way of the glaciers.

-- A (A@AisA.com), November 21, 1999.

You're right A! That is so true. It's like we have the ability to actually visualize the image in our minds of something in the distant future. Most people don't think more than a week or two in advance, they make plans, but they don't form an image of what it will be like. We are the ancestors of the primates that invented the wheel, while everyone else just stood around wondering what the hell they were doing! That's it! :-)

-- Hawk (flyin@high.again), November 21, 1999.

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.onfrauds), December 27, 1999.


Oh gawd yes, the Cult of Doom™ thinks they are just SOOOOoooo much wiser or smarter than anyone else on the face of the planet...they make me laugh!

Here is one:

The only good thing about a really severe Y2K is knowing that all these smug, sneering, "superior" creeps will be getting it rammed right up their exhaust pipes.

-- cody (cody@y2ksurvive.com), December 13, 1999.

-- Super Polly (FU_Q_Y2kfreaks@hotmail.com), December 27, 1999.


On one of the famous "cannabalism" threads so common to Timebomb2000 we see a lovely statement from Paul Milne:

Anybody got good recipes?

If they do, email them to me.

Now I can thank God for marauders. Walking steaks!

-- Paul Milne (fedinfo@halifax.com), February 18, 1999.

Gag! One sick puppy, that Milne....Ack!

-- Exposing the Deathlovers (for@ll.the.world to see), December 27, 1999.


Now, is it true that human flesh tastes like pork or is that just an old wives' recipe? If so, can we call it "the other white meat nobody talks about?" Do vegetarians taste different to non-veggies?

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), September 24, 1999.

-- More (from@the.deathlovers), December 27, 1999.


For more info on canibalism ,loomponics has a new book on field dressing and butchering humans.Doing it right is harder than you might think.www.loomponics.com Hmmm,maybe this should've been posted on the prep forum.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), September 24, 1999.

-- More yet (from@the.deathlovers), December 27, 1999.



"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? Mad because it kept real people by the millions from preparing.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Delighted they were right.

8.)Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum? Despised: Y2K Pro.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? Pissed off at the Y2KPro types; worried about the others.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Pissed off at the Y2KPro types; relieved for the others.

8.)Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum? It's a matter of their attitude. I despise the Y2K Pro and Mutha and Gerry types who are intentionally disruptive, aside from their basic predilections.

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), April 14, 1999."

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? Very angry but compasionate.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Embarrased but relieved.

8.)Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum? Despised is too harsh. The biggest asshole is a tie between Y2K Prozac and Mutha Natcha. Most respected is Diane.

-- a (a@a.a), April 14, 1999."

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? I'll feel sorrow for them... but still angry.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? I will publicly grovel at the feet of every one of them.

8.)Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum? Despised: Y2K Prole. Respected: Tom Carey, Flint, E. Coli, Hardliner.

-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), April 14, 1999."

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect?" I expect Y2k to be a series of minor but aggravating difficulties. Isn't that the Polly view? The truly "DGI" folks (a.k.a. "meme-heads") don't expect any noticable problems at all.

"7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road?" See above.

"8.)Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum?" I don't know.

"Thank You!" You're welcome!

-- Robert Sturgeon (rsturgeon@calwest.net), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.



"5.)Who is the most influential figure in the Y2K GI movement? There really isn't *one* - Yourdon, Yardeni, North, Hamasaki...and then there's the crew around here...nope, can't say there's just one.

6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? sad - so many of them will die due to their own shortsightedness.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Oh well, they guessed right and I guessed wrong...I'll still have a better and more independent life than they have.

-- Arlin H. Adams (ahadams@ix.netcom.com), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? They will bear responsibility for the suffering of the DGIs.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Let's all have a big laugh at my expense.

-- mousehouse (gjg@evermind.edu), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? Very very sorry, wishing they could have taken the time to find out more.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Grateful that they were correct in their guess, because that is really all it is is a guess [??? emp mine]. No one knows what will happen. I just choose not take that gamble.

-- shellie (shellie01@hotmail.com), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? They are guilty of influencing others to not prepare and they'll both suffer. [??? emp mine]

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? They lucked out.[???!???? emp mine]

-- Lurking Longtime (Shy@Telling.You), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect?

Looking forward to them dieing, painfully!

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road?

It won't [maybe this belongs in "failed predictions, too? emp mine]

8.)Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum?

All Pollys are despised, if they are not a Polly, then I respect them.

-- Gunman (a@trueamerican.liveshere), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? Pity that they believed all this lying

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Extremely remote possiblity at this point

-- PJC (paulchri@msn.com), April 14, 1999."

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? The pollys will have hurt a lot of people that listened to them instead of listening to the be-prepared group. So, while it is OK for the pollys to suffer due to their own stupidity, I really worry for the naive ones who the pollys led astray.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road? Relief. Won't take my mid-class comforts for granted anymore. Towards the pollys? Well, they'll just still be stupid. [you gotta love that one! emp mine]

-- Z2X5Y8 (Z2X5Y8@aol.com), April 14, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect?

Numb. Sad. Angry.

7.)How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road?

Same as I feel now - most are clueless as to what is going on in the real world. They/We got lucky. This time.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), April 16, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"6.) How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect?

 Compassion ... enough to help out my community and neighbors, to the best of my limited abilities.

 Extreme sadness ... for their eyes closed mentality and inability to see global impact potentials on local livelihoods.

 Resolve ... to see that never again, are we ruled by denial and fear, but welcome openness, truth, tolerance and honesty.

7.) How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out to be a bump in the road?

 Compassion ... that they cant see beyond their own limitations, nor learn greater lessons.

 Gratitude ... for all the massive hard work put in by programmers, organizers, emergency managers, etc. (By clutter clearing the code and going through the contingency planning process, they will have all contributed to a stronger, more resilient, more self and other aware interdependent world).

 Hope ... that they do as well (i.e. get lucky or get prepared) for the next natural or manmade disaster (including upcoming California earthquakes, et. al.).

8.) Who are the most despised and respected persons on this forum?

The word despised is inappropriate. The most annoying are the disruptive troll-types.

Most respected ... the whole Yourdonite research team ... working, and laughing, together!!! (Along with Kevins awesome links).

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), April 16, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"[who is the most influencial...}5. Michael Hyatt because his material started the ball rolling for me to GI.

[How will you feel towards the Pollys if Y2K turns out like you expect? ]

6. They can eat at my house-on the front porch, in the cold, beans and rice over a buddy burner, and only after they have worked. If they have guns, they can eat for free. (No flaming please, that was a joke-okay, a bad joke.)

7. Nothing, I will be sunning myself in Hawaii; taking a vacation on all the money I will save next year on groceries and paper goods.

-- newbiebutnodummy (Linda@home.com), April 17, 1999."

-- THE Exposer (bringing@light.2dimbulbs), January 11, 2000.


"I plan on doing most of my bartering with polyanna's.Strictly high profit,high gougeable items,t.p.,cough syrup(generic),anti diahreah (worth their weight in dark matter if the sh*t comes down)fever breakers,and of course TAMPONS!!!!a great deal of G.I.'s talk about their preparations without ever mentioning tampons,and there is a huge dependancy of just in time tampons.My wife has purchased several of the washable,reusable menstrual cup,"the keeper"they were 35 bucks.If possible problems run longterm,these will be essential,there's more about them on the y2k women site,one of the best prep sites.zoob. -- zoobie (zoob@aol.com), April 25, 1999.

-- Moore (from@the.idiots), January 18, 2000.

Do you want a truly IGNORANT statement? Try this one from the "queen of the dunghile (as someone named her):

"Earth-shaking? Humm. Volcanoes are certainly becoming more active globally. My guess is they are linked to peoples emotional scale of getting it and reflect the level fear and anxiety increasing. That energy is destructive rather than constructive.

Challenges, challenges. Choices, choices."

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), December 22, 1998.

THAT is the "expert researcher" known as Diane Squire????

Sheee-it, now I know why they are so far off the beam i.e. y2k.

-- tired (of@hip.o.crites), January 22, 2000.


"Whatever Paul Milne posts is whatever he thinks.

Those who disagree are at the mercy of his scathing wit.

If you can't deal now with someone of Paul Milne's mindset, then your days are numbered when we meet on the other side where knives and guns speak suddenly.

Yes, pigs can fly in hurricanes, but I prefer the aftermath of pork rinds.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), September 18, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.ondimbulbs), February 16, 2000.


"With the number of Y2K disruptions we're seeing *TO DATE*.....I request you kiss my pig's ass right now!

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), September 17, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.ondimbulbs), February 16, 2000.


"PAULY-ANNA DAVIS, YOU ARE A STUPID, FRIGGING, WORM OF A BONE-HEADED, DUMBASS, MORONIC PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!

But, since you did at least APOLOGIZE to Paul Milne in the preceding thread, I will let it go at that.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), September 17, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.ondimbulbs), February 16, 2000.


""poor behaviour"....

asshole

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), September 17, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.ondimbulbs), February 16, 2000.


Any one and any act that contributes to complacency in the face of the monumental uncertainty that is Y2K is guilty of SEDITION - Will Huett

Counseling people to not have food and water available so that they can remain in their homes quietly in the event of disruptions due to Y2K is precisely seditious. The "tranquility of the state" is served best in the face of these uncertainties by BASIC FOOD,WATER AND SHELTER PREPARATIONS. In the aftermath of Y2K the de Jagers, the Bennets and Koskinens will be brought up on these charges, assuming the State survives.

You are seditious in your speech. - Will Huett (willhuett@usa.net)

-- (more@idiots.loony), April 10, 2000.


(notice the comment on Phil Greenspun, the owner of the doomzies fearfactory?)

"Sheer volume belies *that* phallacy.

Nope, the collapse of everything we take for granted is boring, drop of dullery in the bucket. Kicking the bucket under dire circumstances just doesn't interest me. Yawn, zzzzzzzzzz. Computers screw up all the time anyway, so what's new? Even Greedspin has taken this approach.

And that's why, folks, the curtain's about to fall. But we have 100 days of comfy denial left, so eat, drink and be merry, and give no thought or discussion to long-term well-being!

The real Doomers are those who do not want to consider their fate.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), September 22, 1999. "

To which Pearly answers:

"Ashton & Leska:

I believe the word you meant was fallacy. A phallacy is, uh, something completely different.

-- Pearlie Sweetcake (storestuff@home.now), September 22, 1999. "

The two headed death lover responds:

"Nope, Pearlie: that, like all our 'misspellings,' is intentional. When Philip phlails such a fallacy it's a phallacy ;^)

Or possibly a -- um, well, better not type it, censor-bait! LOL

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), September 22, 1999. "

(wasn't it chuck the nightrider who said Phils comments about "unstable posters" was taken out of context? BWAHAHAHAHAHAH)

-- (more@from.cascadian.deathlovers), April 10, 2000.


"Uncle, I see why you'd like to bitch-slap that jerk-off. I'd like to knee him in the goolies, myself. -- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), September 23, 1999."

-- (losers@every.where), April 10, 2000.

"Poole is a worthless disgusting piece of Polly filth for making a joke out of other's suffering. I look forward to the day when we can watch him die painfully because he was too stupid to prepare.

-- (gilbert@trentor.org)"

-- (losers@every.where), April 10, 2000.


"Next year we will blame CPR for all of the Y2K deaths he caused by convincing others not to be prepared.

And if it comes to that...

It might be fairest if he is blamed 'in absentia' for his own.

-- no talking please (breadlines@soupkitchen.gov), October 20, 1999. "

-- (losers@every.where), April 10, 2000.


"Name's real. Address is real. Let's see now, what was it I want to say. Oh yeah:

FUCK YOU CPR. get it?

-- R. Wright (blaklodg@hotmail.com), October 22, 1999. "

-- (losers@every.where), April 10, 2000.


"This forum can and has saved many lives. If you find that "crazy" then go ahead and leave and die with the rest of the Pollys.

-- (its@coming.soon), October 22, 1999. "

-- (losers@every.where), April 10, 2000.


"Sorry, Mr. Decker, but bad computer code does not care what people think. What will happen will happen.

Let us recall that in the early days of Hitler's reign in Germany, a minority of people did indeed "figure out" that things could get very nasty -- particularly for Jews. A few, a very few, left Germany and escaped. I don't know if anyone has ever done a breakdown of what their occupational backgrounds were, but I suspect they were probably not bankers, politicians, nor economists. I would suspect they were just people who could add two plus two and get four, and then act on it.

67 days.

Y2K CANNOT BE FIXED!

-- Jack (jsprat@eld.~net), October 25, 1999. "

-- (gott@love.thisguy), April 10, 2000.


"But no, it does not really work that way. Because those pollies are nothing but scum-face piss-ants that only post on a Y2K forum because they know damn well that Y2K is a lot more than a bumpo. So, to try to make themselves feel better about not preparing, they try to discourage YOU from doing so. Pieces of frigging crap, every one of them.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.cum), October 25, 1999."

-- (AND@love.thisguy), April 10, 2000.


"Paulie, et al are parasites, scum, virus and bacteria.

After the rollover, the first strong wind that comes along will simply blow them away.

-- snooze button (alarmclock_2000@yahoo.com), November 05, 1999."

-- (Bwahahah@and.-----HAH!), April 10, 2000.


"Don't make fun of my inbred friends at Debunkers. We have 'inside information' that Y2k will be a non-event.

-- Dr. PollyDork (DrPollyDork@moron.com), October 27, 1999."

-- (Bwahahah@and.-----HAH!), April 10, 2000.


"As has been discussed here several times, denial abounds; people simply refuse to believe something like Y2K could happen. Maybe they search the Net for arguments to bolster their denial. Perhaps test their illogical arguments here at Yourdonlair first, trolling for counter-arguments so they can create a logical-sounding antidote. I don't think it's anything as sinister as a deliberate attempt to ridicule and discount what we post, although I'm sure lots of it is prompted by the "disinformation" (which I think is more properly termed "misinformation") disseminated by various bodies.

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), March 17, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (exposing@dunce.memeheads), May 03, 2000.


"With due respect, I think trying to persuade DGIs is as low-return AND unnecessary here as responding to trolls. Y2K will persuade everybody soon enough, thank you.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), March 17, 1999."

-- THE Exposer (exposing@dunce.memeheads), May 03, 2000.


"Hey Lobo,

it's spring break for a lot of colleges and universities right now - we saw this kind of surge in troll activity over Christmas break too...just unsupervised kids, mostly.

Arlin [who just got back from looking at places in the midwest and is now more certain than ever that DC is NOT the place to be.]

-- Arlin H. Adams (ahadams@ix.netcom.com), March 17, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (exposing@dunce.memeheads), May 03, 2000.


"these people have been encouraged by de jager's recent article. but now that people are getting too relaxed and there is no panic in sight, koskinen will get concerned that businesses are not preparing fast enough, so he'll ask us to panic just a little bit, just enough to prepare. managing the sheep is a tough job.

-- jocelyne slough (jonslough@tln.net), March 17, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (exposing@dunce.memeheads), May 03, 2000.


"It all has to do with things being I-N-T-E-R-C-O-N-N-E-C-T-E-D. You don't understand this, you can't understand this, its why you are a pollyanna, regardless of how much lip service you otherwise give to The Year 2000 Or Y2K Computer Problem.

-- Jack (jsprat@eld.net), March 17, 1999. "

-- THE Exposer (exposing@dunce.memeheads), May 03, 2000.


One of the reasons I decided to split the forum (besides finalizing preparations) is the level of trolling and debunking which apparently served no purpose other than to disrupt the flow of ideas and concepts on this board. It's almost as if these "hacks" have been sent to do their worst to tarnish the forum, and turn away anyone curious about Y2K. Arguing with them is pointless and a waste as I found out. My time is better spent elsewhere.

But if the SYOPS now moderating the blessing Ed Yourdon has left for everyone choose to demand standards....then so be it, and more power to them.

It is possible that a level of sensible discourse can serve to save alot more lives.

Of course in my case, biting the tongue is not easy when there are those out there that support actions or inactions that will end up (in my opinion) hurting all of us later.

And with that.....Later all, and God Bless.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), June 14, 1999.


Thanks INVAR!

Prep well!

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), June 14, 1999.

-- THE Exposer (shining@light.on.dimbulbs), May 07, 2000.


Oh gilda,

Get real! When has anything been CENSORED around here? Even the bloody trolls yelling "censorship?" This is the least uncensored place around!

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), June 15, 1999.

-- IRONy MAN (marvel@comic.book), May 07, 2000.


The code IS broken.

We DID start too late.

And Dilbert IS a documentary.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), October 12, 1999.

-- Lipton Fan (he@makes.me.LAWFF), May 08, 2000.


All from the same thread

Every single doomer on this board you've ever crossed swords with has been begging everybody (including you) to prepare so that you're not gunned down in gang crossfire while you're walking to the 7-11 on New Year's day to pick up some BC powder and a slurpee.

snip

There IS no good news about Y2K.

It's either gonna be REAL bad, or just MARGINALLY bad.

snip

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

KEN: AGAIN, THERE IS NO GOOD NEWS ABOUT Y2K. THERE WAS NEVER ENOUGH AWARENESS OR REMEDIATION LEAD-TIME FOR Y2K TO EVER TURN OUT "GOOD".

WELL, MAYBE IF EVERYBODY STARTED IN 1990. BUT THEY DIDN'T. EXCEPT SSA, AND THEY'RE STILL NOT DONE.

THIS "GOOD NEWS" BULLSHIT IS DIRECTLY EQUIVALENT TO A WEATHERCASTER STATING THAT A TORNADO ON THE GROUND IS GOING TO BRING SOME MUCH-NEEDED RAIN, OR, AFTER THE CARNAGE, THAT THE TORNADO WAS ONLY AN F4, RATHER THAN AN F5.

STOP IT ALREADY WITH THE "YOU GUYS IGNORE GOOD NEWS" BULLSHIT MANTRA.

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), October 12, 1999.

-- Lisa Non-Fan (she@makes.me.PEWK), May 08, 2000.


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