For your possible interest - from the Special Forces Internet Forum.

RE: SF-LIST: SENIORS MUST LEARN TO SACRIFICE!

From the Special Forces Internet Forum

SENIORS MUST LEARN TO SACRIFICE! All citizens of the USA should remember this!!!!! Semper Fi. Don - Our beloved President shares our pain . . I was embarrassed to read that President Clinton and his advisors have said, "The older generation must learn to sacrifice as other generations have done"

That's my generation. I knew eventually someone would ferret out the dirty secret: we've lived the "lifestyle of the rich and famous" all our lives. Now, I know I must bare the truth about my generation and let the country condemn us for our selfishness. During the Depression we had an hilarious time dancing to the tune of "Brother Can You Spare A Dime?" We could choose to dine at any of the country's fabulous soup kitchens, often joined by our parents and siblings...those were the heady days of carefree self-indulgence. Then, with World War II, the cup filled to overflowing. We had the chance to bask on the exotic beaches of Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima and Okinawa; to see the capitols of Europe and travel to such scenic spots as Bastogne, Malmedy and Monte Cassino. Of course, one of the most exhilarating adventures was the stroll from Bataan to the local Japanese hotels, laughingly known as death camps. But the good times really rolled for those lucky enough to be on the beaches of Normandy for the swimming and boating that pleasant June day in '44. Unforgettable. Even luckier were those that drew the prized holiday tickets for cruises on sleek, gray ships to fun filled spots like Midway, The Solomons and Murmansk. Instead of asking, "what can we do for our country, "an indulgent government let us fritter away our youth wandering idly through the lush and lovely jungles of Burma and New Guinea. Yes, it's all true: we were pampered, we were spoiled rotten, we never did realize what sacrifice meant. We envy you, Mr. Clinton, the harsh lessons you learned in London, Moscow and Little Rock. My generation is old, Mr. President...and guilty; but we are repentant. Punish us for our failings, sir, that we may learn the true meaning of Duty, Honor, and Country. /s/Robert J. Grady, Lt. Col., USAF (Ret), Colorado Springs IF YOU FEEL AS I DO, YOU WILL PASS THIS ON TO EVERY ONE ON YOUR LIST REGARDLESS OF THEIR POLITICAL PREFERENCE.. For all of us who still remember, let those who don't, understand

-- Bob Dole (bdole@stiff.com), January 07, 2000

Answers

Let's not forget the wonderful suprise of "early retirement" in the late 1970's and 1980's that so many of you experienced just a few years before your pension eligibility. How wonderful to retire early.

It's about time you guys sacrificed something. After all, those just 10 years younger than you are dutifully raising their grandchildren, so their children can have a wonderful social life, as they so richly deserve.

-- Genx'r (your@right.com), January 07, 2000.

Bob Dole,

Dude...R U into Korn? Whaddabout Limp Bizkit? They rule dude!

-- Generation Myopic (GodHelpUs@OurKidsAreStupidAndGettingWorseEveryDay.Doomed), January 07, 2000.

Korn, Limp Bizkut, Metallica, Rage, White Zombie YEAH

-- Bob Dole (bdole@stiff.com), January 07, 2000.

can I get a site/link to find the source for this?

I've passed it on to some others and they want to confirm it......

-- mushroom (mushroom_bs_too_long@yahoo.com), January 07, 2000.

will backtrack the email and provide link...stand by

-- Bob Dole (bdole@stiff.com), January 07, 2000.

Can't find link. Forwarded from my father. MACSOG 66-69. He thinks it is from some news group. Can't access from work. Will check when home. Sorry.

-- Bob Dole (bdole@stiff.com), January 07, 2000.

I think the generational issue varies from family to family. In my family, the older generation (now in their 80s) came from poverty and earned their way into wealth. They now collect social security. Part of the families in my generation are significantly less affluent; part are on keel.

I have worked all my life since I was 16. I have paid social security to benefit many who have never spent time in the workforce and paid their share. Now I am told that I cannot retire until I am 70 and the fund may have no money to pay any benefits.

At my income level (under $20,000) and money expended to send my children to college, I was unable to save and social security is all I have to retire on. I work for small business and there were no retirement plans.

Although I paid for my future security all my life, it looks like I may be dependent upon others for livelihood in my old age. I would rather be a bag lady than do that to my kids.

I look upon social security as a giant ponzi game. Guess who got the brunt of the benefits? The ones who initiated it - the older generation.

-- anon (anon@anon.anon), January 07, 2000.

Y2K isn't the real threat...it's Erectile Dysfunction!

-- Bob Dole Deux (Below@The.Belt), January 07, 2000.

My comment to the folks I forwarded that to:

If our idiot president actually said this, oh, hell, I don't have words.

Bob, I'll look forward to any information you can find. IF that was said, that's grounds for a horsewhipping.

By the way, I'm 43, this is "personal" to me only in the sense that it's my parents and grandparents he is talking about.....

-- mushroom (mushroom_bs_too_long@yahoo.com), January 07, 2000.

Hmmm...sounds like something that putz WOULD say. Kind of rings a bell. But if not, let's horsewhip him anyway!

John Ludi, a Democrat who hates Clinton too.

-- Ludi (ludi@rollin.com), January 07, 2000.

anon, I understand your feelings about the social security mess. What really burns me is that your generation and mine have payed in plenty of money to have kept the system solvent for another hundred years. The @$#$#$$%@% government spent all the SS money hiding it's outrageous deficits over the last forty years, coveering the withdrawals with worthless IOU's, and now want to raise the retirement age and increase withholding while cutting benefits so that we the taxpayers can shell out still more of our hard earned money to pay back the money we already payed. I shit you not people whould be in prison for what they have done to the American public, and continue to do as we speak.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), January 07, 2000.

I told you! ED is OVER BABY! Just ask my lovely Liddy. What do you think the real reason is why she dropped out of the race? Kinda hard standing up all day when you don't get a break all night. Know what I mean, Tiger? At least I am Y2K compliant..

-- Bob Dole (bdole@stiff.com), January 07, 2000.