I'll just give two examples of translation error. I'll touch on one specific verse. Look at Exodus 32:12, 'Turn from thy fierce wrath, and REPENT of this evil against thy people' HERE WE SEE MOSES ACTUALLY DEMMANDING GOD TO REPENT. Now a problem arises if we accept this, we have to then believe God is a sinner and must repent of his evil. But the bible clearly states elsewhere that God dosen't have any sins to repent of !!. Other obvious little wee errors are where it says 'the Lord hardens Pharoahs heart', when Pharoah actually hardened his own heart against God in the beginning chapters of Exodus.

Another controversy is the murder of King David against Uriah. 1 Sam 2 Sam 12:13 'Nathan said, the Lord hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.' Correction: "The Lord hath not put away thy sin that thou shalt not die.' Well, where is King David then? If his sin against Uriah was not put away? There are many other verses like this. Is murder of Uriah forgiveable, Is David in Heaven?

-- Brent Nichols (b-nichol@ihug.co.nz), January 07, 2000

Answers

Brent, are you baiting us? Different people respond to the Bible in different ways. Is the word "rapture" in the Bible? How about the word "Easter?"

-- amnesia (foo@bar.com), January 07, 2000.

Wow,

Brent your scholarship is underwhelming. I just don't know what to say.

regards,

gene

-- gene (ekbaker@essex1.com), January 07, 2000.

From the TB2000 posting guidelines (Big Clue--This is what you see when you click that "Ask a question" button):

 This is NOT a forum for continued religious rantings (occasional on-topic discussions are permitted). Posters abusing this guideline will be asked to cease and desist, and/or their ISP provider will be contacted with a complaint notice.

-- (Buy a clue@clue.shop), January 07, 2000.

Good cop-out. Very well I'll quit this kind of posting.

-- Brent Nichols (b-nichol@ihug.co.nz), January 07, 2000.

Brent,
Stop your self-serving ways, please.
REPENT, means to change, to stop the path one is on and turn around.
SIN, on the other hand means to break one of Gods (The Eternals) laws, and that was what he was doing at that time. STOPPING HIS LAW FROM BEING BROKE.
Do yourself a favor, stop.....

-- SilentRunninng (CanYouHearMe@Calling.You), January 07, 2000.

Brent,

Please be truthful and ask yourself why you went to the trouble to attempt to discount the inspired word of God. If you are truthful then you can only come to one conclusion. It is because you do not want to recognize the existence of a Righteous and Holy God.

If you were to recognize who God and His Son Jesus are, then that would mean that you would have to make a decision of one of two choices. The first choice is to deny God & Jesus Christ and face eternal hell when you come before His Holy Judgement seat upon your death or The Lord Jesus's return, which ever comes first. The second choice is to surrender your life to Christ and follow him, which it doesn't sound like you are currently prepared to do.

Please remember, we all have eternal life. But the question is where are you going to spend it, in hell w/ satan or in Heaven with The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Everyone is in one of two camps. You are either serving satan and living as the world lives or you are serving The Lord Jesus Christ.

Please don't allow satan to decieve you with this "mumbo-jumbo" that you're attempting to conjure up. I would encourage you to read the New Testament through and pray and ask the Lord to open your eyes & mind to it and reveal it to you, which He is faithful to do. I will pray for you Brent. If you want to learn more, then email me and I'll help you how I can.

I was 30 before I surrendered my life to Christ and got saved. Please choose eternal life. It's the only logical choice.

Take care,

Zeck.

-- Zeck Buckner (bph1994@yahoo.com), January 07, 2000.

If you guys are so concerned about religious rantings, then how about moaning and whining and bitching when walter s. puts up HIS religious sh#t. Or are you all just two-faced hypocrites. Real funny how the people scream "religious ranting" when it disagrees with their(extremely low) view of God.

-- DB (tomG@h.com), January 07, 2000.

Oh by the way, to "buy a clue",

All of this seems to offend you way to much. Hmmmmmm...... I wonder why that might be.

It is because it reminds you that you are living your life against the Holy Lord God Almighty. This by the way is a very scary place to be. "The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom".

Incidentally, I know The Lord and my salvation is secured (as your can be as well) by The Blood of Jesus Christ and yet I'm still afraid of God because He is all powerful.

I used to run from this truth as well. But, you will eventually have to face it. Like Brent, what decision decision will you make...

I'll pray for you to, although you probably don't want me to..right. I've been where you are too. Deal with THE DECISION before it's too late.

Take care,

Zeck.

-- Zeck Buckner (bph1994@yahoo.com), January 07, 2000.

Brent,

I agree with all of the above posts. I would also add the following: If you are struggling with various translations of the Torah, why not go with the Hebrew text?

Traditional interpretations of Ex 32:12 have no problem with such a dialogue; after all, Abraham bargained for saving Sodom & Gomorrah. Also, re your question of who hardened Pharoah's heart, try Ex.4:21.

-- mike (maples@voy.net), January 07, 2000.