RUSSIA: Contracts signed for 70 tons of gold buys

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Contracts signed for 70 tons of gold buys

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Russian commercial banks have set deals to purchase up to 70 tons of gold from producers this year.

Russian commercial banks have concluded deals to buy up to 70 tons of gold from producers in 2000, said Sergei Kashuba, head of the precious metals division of the Association of Russian Banks.

"Data from the state precious metals and gems reserve Gokhran on the registration of deals shows a figure of 60 tons to 70 tons at present," he told a division meeting.

Kashuba said the banks have not yet decided how much of this would be exported. "Everything will depend on market conditions at the time."

Sergei Kyshtymov, deputy head of the Foreign Operations Department of Russia's Central Bank, told journalists that last year the Central Bank had bought slightly less than 100 tons of gold from commercial banks.

This year, he said, the Central Bank was willing to buy all the gold offered by commercial banks.

The Central Bank also planned this year to increase the value of advance finance provided to gold producers by offering credits through commercial banks for 30 percent of the value of a producer's output, to be repaid in gold at a fixed price.

The remaining 70 percent of production would then be bought at the current market price.

Kyshtymov said the number of banks participating in this program in conjunction with the Central Bank would be three or four times higher this year than in 1999.

Wait till Andy sees this!

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), January 30, 2000

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Well! If they can do this, then how can they justify their need for billions and billions in foreign aid from the IMF?

-- (formerly@nowhere.zzz), January 30, 2000.

Formerly, You say "- - - then how can they justify their need for billions and billions in foreign aid from the IMF? "

They need the billions to buy that gold. If I am not mistaken, gold is the universal standard that most monetary systems are based on. Except we have convinced ourselves that cyber money backed by nothing is better. So we give them cyber money, they take it and buy gold. If our system collapses we are left holding a hand full of prety shiny electrons, and those poor souls are left holding the bag - a bag full of gold. Russians are not stupid, they have just had bad leadership the last few years. Now, this is just my opinion.

-- ilander -- (ilander@minot.com), January 30, 2000.


---u-h-h-h-h-h- isn't russky land the number 2 or 1 at times world producer of gold already? To steal an old phrase not related but it fits-this is like washing your feet with your socks on. Doesn't our illustrious imperial government maintain that russky land is broke and needs x-billyuns of mine and your's tax loot all the time to do this or that in order to not collapse, or so that it's missiles don't melt down or subs cause all the worlds oceans to glow or it's people starve or scientists all go work for abdul ben nasty or some such story? Where the heck this is this "extra" money coming from? This isn't a rat, this is the "mother lode" of the rat kingdom, it's a herd, the flock of all flocks, it's rats beyond counting. I'd like to see some of these "front runners" in the campaign comment on this one. Yep, I would. Doubt if I see the question asked, though....

ok, here's the obvious theory, they are pulling a Bunker Hunt deal with this little dodge. Professional traders comment? they get something for nothing by even releasing a story like this. Overnite what they are sitting on is worth x zillion zlotny's more, I guess...

April 15th doth cometh, do you know where your loot is going?

-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), January 30, 2000.


Ilander: I was being *really, really* sarcastic...... I know what we'd be holding at the end of the transaction, and what they would, too.

-- (formerly@nowhere.zzz), January 30, 2000.

Are the Russians preparing for war in the Middle East?

-- Bob (bmoss3@prodigy.net), January 30, 2000.


The Russians are after oil closer to home, in the Near East.

-- Squid (ItsDark@down.here), January 30, 2000.

hey, stroke of genius here, hello any world leaders, imf officials listening in here? heres the plan, Russia wants loot, fine, but we want the gold! I'm tired of sending fedgov money to pay for russias anti ballistic missile defens system and underground bunkers while, we have neither, read 'no such thing as doomsday' its an eye opener. btw, good to see ya over here Zog man.

-- Lock'n'Load (gottadig@deeper.net), January 31, 2000.

Possible Impact,

GREAT GOLD ARTICLE!!!!!

Its articles like this that reinforce my opinion that Golds day in the sun isnt to far off!

So how did you import the picture to go with the story? I was checking out your source code and it looks like it was a PDF file, am I right? If you could take a few minutes to teach me how I'd sure appriciate it!

Thanks,

-- Zguy (gold@limitup.com), January 31, 2000.


Oh please. The only reason they're doing this is to avoid situations like the one with Chase (I think?) were they got nailed for laundering the money we sent them. With gold, they can sell it anywhere in the world and not leave an electronic 'footprint'.

-TECH32-

-- TECH32 (TECH32@NOMAIL.COM), January 31, 2000.


ummm....where's the Gold in Fort Knox??? (psssst! GONE! so 'they' say) who knows?

here's an interesting post from another thread (edited for your convenience to make more sense; read 'better')

In response to Stone Cold Sober:

WORLDS DRUGLORDS say NO to DOLLAR but YES to GOLD? http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002QFW

U.S. News and World Report.

The golden age of crime Why international drug traffickers are invading the global gold trade

BY DAVID E. KAPLAN (abstracted version)

"Speed Co." is reputed to be Latin America's largest gold trader, with $25 million in sales a month. U.S. drug enforcement agents are examining the firm's movement of millions of dollars of gold and cash around the world. U.S. experts say the investigation cases currently underway show that gold now plays a central role in the >billion- dollar< business of washing dirty money.

[Of course Cold, you know this is all being done with NO help from the banks run by "straight" people, don't you? I mean, you know how EASY it is to "hide" a billion dollars moving through the financial banking system - when they "hot flag" an individual who deposits more that $3,000 cash - "know your customer program"...right? Naaaah...a crummy Billion Dollars moving? No prob dude.] GOOD AS GOLD - The gold trade has become "the money laundering mechanism of choice," according to internal law enforcement reports, and is being used to wash "staggering amounts" of dirty cash. The way it works is *complex* and varied: Basically, drug profits are used to purchase gold, whether as jewelry, ingots, or even scrap, then shipped across borders and resold. The resulting profits are "clean," the drug trafficker who bought the gold in the first place free to do with his money as he pleases.

So pervasive is it's criminal use that gold is joining the U.S. dollar as the standard currency of the drug trade.

Among the evidence:

1) Nearly every major U.S. money laundering case in recent years has involved gold. Authorities have traced the movement of tons of gold and billions of dollars to deals by Latin American drug cartels.

2) U.S. gold imports from Latin American drug havens have skyrocketed. Imports of gold from Colombiaa minor producer ballooned from virtually nothing in 1993 to nearly $200 million in 1996.

3) In the past 10 years, nearly $2.5 billion in foreign gold flowed into Miami despite Florida's lack of a jewelry-making industry. Authorities say much of the gold is tied to money laundering and tax scams.

Narcotics traffickers are taking over the Latin American gold trade, industry officials say. Colombian drug dealers are paying exorbitant prices for gold and buying up small dealers across the region.

For drug traffickers, the gold market is like a magnet. So much of the international gold trade operates "off the books" that it is an easy target for organized crime, officials say. While many gold companies operate legitimately, interviews with traders, refiners, and law enforcement officials depict an industry riddled with money laundering, tax fraud, smuggling, and dubious bookkeeping.

But the impact of an illicit gold trade goes beyond the corruption of one industry. Having refined methods to detect money laundering in financial institutions, investigators are stymied by the trade in gold. Officials also worry that corruption in Latin America's gold trade will spread to the United States, where refiners are importing record amounts of gold from Colombia and Peru. "There's nothing else out there like gold," says U.S. customs agent John Casarra. Posted to Rome in the early 1990s to investigate the Mafia, Casarra found to his surprise that gold figured again and again as the key to laundering cases.

[FRANK - READ MY LIPS]: "Money launderers are foremost businessmen, and businessmen want certainty," he says. "Gold gives that to them. They can exchange it anywhere in the world."

Take the case of Gustavo Upegui Delgado. Casarra and his Italian colleagues were stunned in 1994, when they found Delgado, a top money launderer for Colombia's Cali cartel, was buying over *a ton of gold a month* with his colleagues, using drug money to purchase the stuff, then shipping it to Panama. The launderers moved so much of the metal, officials say, that it depressed the price of gold between the two countries.

[Naaah! That's baloney! eeping drugs illegal couldn't possibly be corrupting legitimate "straight" people. They don't do that...do they?? No. They are 'sane'.]

The industry is largely made up of individual dealers and companies that prefer to deal in cash. High tariffs on gold have attracted smugglers for years. "There's a dual economic system in the jewelry industry," concedes Richard Rubin, the owner of Republic Metals in Miami, a gold refiner. "There's on the books and there's off the books."

Customs officials got an unsettling hint a few years ago. Analysts discovered large movements of gold between the United States and various Caribbean islands places known not for their gold industry but for laundering dirty money. U.S. gold imports from the Netherlands Antilles, for example, jumped from $68,000 in 1993 to $29 million just four years later.

Equally impressive spikes soon emerged from Colombia and Peru, the centers of cocaine production. Between 1994 and 1997, U.S. imports of Peruvian gold grew more than ninefold, from $19 million to $177 million. Imports of gold from Colombia ballooned from a mere $120,000 in 1993 to nearly $200 million in 1996.

Lutley finds the data for Colombia hard to explain. "That's a totally incredible number," he says. The flood of Colombian gold has made at least some American refiners wary. "We do no business out of Colombia, for the pure and simple reason that we can't establish the identity of the owner of the gold," says Michel Berleson, marketing manager for top refiner Handy & Harman.

Latin American gold enters the United States largely through Miami. From 1989 to 1998, annual gold imports through Miami International Airport jumped >>from $18 million to $465 million<< a 26-fold increase. Gold analysts remain wary, given the absence of a jewelry- making industry in Florida.

Indeed, U.S. money laundering experts believe these odd statistics reflect a myriad of schemes for laundering drug money.

[SEE COLD!!? I told you you were "off base". Why don't you get some facts man, and start answering the questions...OK?]

HOW IT'S DONE:

One typical scheme works like this: Top refiners in Switzerland sell their gold to jewelry makers in Italy, the world's largest supplier of fine gold jewelry. The Italian jewelry is sold to U.S. buyers most of this trade is thought to be legitimate and to their second top market, Panama, which imported $300 million worth of Italian gold last year 5 to 30 tons according to Gold Fields Mineral Services, a London-based research firm.

In Panama, nearly all the gold arrives at the Colsn Free Zone, a bustling market perched on the edge of the Panama Canal. Home to Speed Joyeros and 1,600 other companies, the zona libre is the world's second-largest free port, after Hong Kong. Bound by an imposing gray wall topped by barbed wire, the 1.5-square-mile zone is home to a dizzying potpourri of global traders: Arabs, Chinese, Indians, Jews. More than $6 billion of merchandise passes through the district each year as much as a quarter of it, investigators say, financed by drug money.

In the money. Once in Colsn, much of the Italian gold is sold to Colombian front men for the cocaine industry. It is Colsn where the Cali cartel's Delgado sent his gold each month. The gold is then smuggled back to Colombia, where some dealers sell it for pesos and use the money for living expenses and to fund more drug production. But others melt down the jewelry, recast it into ingots, and sell the gold to refiners in the United States or Switzerland, producing a stream of income that looks legitimate.

Investigators have found that in some cases, the launderers even buy back the same gold they've just sold for refining in the United States, paying for it with yet more drug money. The scheme apparently is also a good deal for tax cheats.

A recent crackdown in Peru found that 40 percent of that nation's gold companies were bogus, set up largely to take advantage of an export-tax rebate. Smugglers shipped gold to American refiners, pocketed the tax rebate, smuggled the gold back to Peru, then shipped it out again, grabbing yet another rebate. "I may have handled gold coming in that was gold I sent down there to begin with," says Richard Rubin, whose Republic Metals made large shipments to and from Peru.

Gold traders say the influence of narcotraffickers is so pervasive that they are taking over Latin America's gold trade, co-opting legitimate firms and buying up traders in country after country. "They're squeezing out the legitimate dealers," says one prominent trader who insisted on anonymity.

ANOTHER WAY:

Drug dealers playing the gold card are doing it in increasingly sophisticated ways. In 1989, federal agents stopped a billion-dollar money laundry that exported so much gold from Uruguay that that country became America's largest gold supplier.

The fact that Uruguay had no gold industry mattered little to the launderers what mattered was creating a credible cover for their flow of narcodollars. Today, some criminals are importing gold-plated bronze into the United States, others are shipping out just the opposite: gold disguised as other metals. Having taken payment in gold, the traffickers simply want to move their assets back home. In one case, a woman flying to Colombia from New York was stopped with two tractor-trailer hitches, seemingly made of steel. Under the paint, inspectors say they found solid gold.

The gold trade poses other challenges for law enforcement. The industry's bookkeeping practices can be nightmarish, and gold traders often are shielded by ethnic and family bonds.

Law enforcement's gold bugs also face obstacles within their own camp. Casarra and a handful of colleagues have fought a sometimes frustrating battle within the U.S. government to focus more attention on the gold trade.

[Oh no. :( They wouldn't do THAT...would they Frank? Naaaah....BALONEY! These people are "straight"...right Frank?]

Washington, meanwhile, has taken its campaign against money laundering overseas, prompting governments worldwide to put new laws on the books.

[Gee, does that surprise you? DON'T look here in the US (National Security)...but DO go after the 'foreign dealers'. Put THEM out of business because they are "nosing in on the Big Boss's Territory"...right Frank? We are pure, and they are the "terrorists drug dealers" that associate with "POTHEADS". They are all the same...I say, arrest them all and throw away the key. "If we fix the parts that will FIX the whole fallacy" If we just get rid of the pot smokers, these international money laundering bankers will clean-up their act."

Original Article: By Philip P. Willan and Eleni Dimmler in Rome, Carol Salguero in Lima, and Mark Madden

Who knows why the Ruskies are buying more gold...strange things happening these days. Verrrryyy strange Mr. Wizard!!!



-- steve (WhoCares@nymore.Right?.com), January 31, 2000.



Zguy,
Thanks, I scan ~50 sites a day looking for tidbits.(my favorites has over 1000 entries...)

Steps to "Add a picture"

<img src="URL of Picture(jpg or GIF)">

1) right click the picture you want to add.
2) go to properties
3) highlight the entire address (could wrap to 2 lines)
4) right click the highlighted text
5) select copy to transfer to clipboard
6) use the template <img src="URL of Picture(jpg or GIF)">
6a) paste the clipboard text between the quotes
6b) add align="(left,right,center)" if desired (before the >)
7) experiment with placement in your text to get wraparound.

Hope this helps.

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), January 31, 2000.

Ahh, the dangers of HTML, bold off(sigh)

-- Possible Impact (posim@hotmail.com), January 31, 2000.

uh? Has anybody READ the above article, not just the headline, the article. Not being familiar with the inner working of gold sales and transfers inside Russia (Andy?) so correct me if wrong. Last year was 100T this year 70T. This is Russian commercial banks buying with Rubles (assumed) from Rusian producers, who then re-sell to the central bank or export it (apparently). In that transactions are recorded at Gokran that indicates a bit of a lack of a free market(!). :) For any of this to be useful info we'ld have to know who can gold producers legally sell to, who can the commmercial banks legally sell to, who can legally export gold, does last years 100T = both the legal and illagel trade in Russian produced gold, is 70T + black market activity = last years 100T legal, is this more or less gold produced, is this more or less gold exported, if the commercial banks arbitrage gold - what determines the price (London Fix? COMEX? Sydney? some russian bureaucratic agency subject to political pressure).

If you don't know the answers to the above questions, you don't know anything from this article.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), January 31, 2000.


--nice simplifying analysis, Ken, thanks!

--and howdy back Lock-n-Load!

-- zog (zzoggy@yahoo.com), January 31, 2000.


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