Prior to Y2K Rollover, while putting together my contingency preps, I became interested in the subject of Colloidal Silver. Since that time I have read everything that I could find on the subject. Most of the information, however,is from people/companies selling CS or the equipment to make CS.

I am still very interested in doing some experimentation in making CS or ionic silver. I know to do this correctly I am going to need sophisticated equipment to control the production and to qualitatively evaluate the results.

I have heard from ostensibly reliable sources that the proper voltage would be approx 30 VDC applied across two .999 silver electrodes in distilled water. I am not sure of the amperage but have the equipment to apply various voltages at different amps using HP 6181B DC current source. (0-100VDC, 0-.250mA)

I am going to try to produce .01-.001 micron particle size at approx. 3-5 PPM

I need to know what lab equipment I would need to:

(1) determine the resultant PPM being produced (2) determine the particle size being produced

Would appreciate any information from anyone who could provide resource material or specific suggestions re. above and/or any specific lab procedure. (Been a long time since I had college chemistry and not even sure that would be adequate subsequent to quantum leaps in technology since then)

This may be a "Reach" and a bit "out of the box" but I never cease to be amazed at the level of expertise which I frequently see on this forum.

Would normally ask this on the "Prep" forum but there is not much going on there.

Appreciate any and all thoughts.

-- Larry (Rampon@Dallas.net), January 31, 2000

Answers

Larry,

No offense, but WHY do you want to make colloidal silver? Do you suffer from some affliction medical science has no effective cure for? (Obviously if the answer is yes I don't need specifics of your medical history) If not, why not just take a multivitamin and call it a day? Cheap, and less chance of poisoning yourself (IMHO).

Respectfully but not understanding,

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.com), January 31, 2000.

Larry, keep us posted on your experiment:)

-- Hokie (Hokie_@hotmail.com), January 31, 2000.

Frank,

No, I have no medical problen that I know of. Take vitamins, etc. now and have for many years. Guess I'm just a student of suplements,alternative medicines, biology...maybe just a frustrated microbiologist inside. Have read a lot on these subjects and many others over the years. If you read back through the archives I think you will be surprised at the history of silver as an anti-fungal, antibiotic, antiviral. There has been recent patents for silver used for burn victims, trauma injury, pain relief, lacerations (topical)...pretty impressive results. Of course much of this info will be supressed or at least not promoted due to the fact that it is not patentable by the drug companies. Many bacteria have become resistant to todays antiobiotics. Silver has a long history in medicine.

I can understand your question. I'm just one of those curious types...guess I could have worse vices, huh?

-- Larry (Rampon@Dallas.net), January 31, 2000.

PAGING BILL SCHENKER!! PAGING BILL SCHENKER!! PAGING BILL SCHENKER!! PAGING BILL SCHENKER!! PAGING BILL SCHENKER!!

Chuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), January 31, 2000.

Send an e mail to silver-list-request@eskimo.c0m put subscribe in the subject line. You will be enrolled in the largest intl silver user's list on the net. CS works. Zero downside. Easy to make.

-- goldenokie (garland@clnk.com), January 31, 2000.

Chuck,

You're Right, but I haven't seen "Bones" on here lately. Guess I'll have to fire-up the old HAM Radio. He's a Dr. and proponent-or at least has information- on the subject.

Many Thanks

-- Larry (Rampon@Dallas.net), January 31, 2000.

Some of the online sellers of CS generators also sell monitors for use to ensure you're reaching optimum levels. I ordered and received a little digital reader that does just this, but I log-on away from home and can;t recall which oufit I ordered from. If I remember I'll check and then post back. Meanwhile, some of the archived threads from teh Prep Forum should have all the information you need. A new CS thread seemed to get going every other month before rollover.

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-- Squirrel Hunter (nuts@upina.cellrelaytower), January 31, 2000.

Goldenokie,

Tried to subscribe to your CS addy, but it was returned 'undeliverable'. Would really like to be subscribed. Been taking CS for about 3 months. We 'Y2K retired' to a remote island in the Caribbean about 1 1/2 yrs ago. Have had to battle fungi. Found nothing much to control it until CS came into my awareness. Thank God! This is our email addy, and you can reply to me personally if you prefer. Thanks. Melba

-- Melba (leonhale@cwdom.dm), January 31, 2000.

Melba,

I was able to subscribe with no problem using the above E-Mail address. Are you E-Mailing them?

Larry

-- Larry (Rampon@Dallas.net), January 31, 2000.

Larry,

Thanks for the reply and Good Luck.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.com), February 01, 2000.

Larry,

Thanks -- just read your reply, so tried again. Realized I had copied the addy from up above, and I guess it had a zero in the dot com part. Changed it to an 'oh' and it went out. Appreciate it!

Melba

-- Melba (leonhale@cwdom.dm), February 01, 2000.

LARRY:

Got an emergency 911 from sysop 'Chuck,' thru an intermediary. At the moment am thick into responding to the big post I just put up last night ("An '11.5' Doomer looks at....., etc.") When I get that out of the way will post back to you on this thread.

In the meantime look in the Prep Forum archives --- there's lots of good stuff there, including I believe a reprint of my "Post-Y2K C.S.- Part III [or IV?]." Also Roger Altman's stuff (If you want to get real precise and technical with your c.s. generator output you DEFINITELY want to be talking to him --- don't know if his email addr is still current.)

You're on the right track -- keep going!

Bill

P.S. If I haven't got back to this thread in 2 days, email me. B.

-- William J. Schenker, MD (wjs@linkfast.net), February 02, 2000.

LARRY FROM "BIG D":

OK, I'm back, with 'the goods.'

First off let me give you Roger's address: Dr. Roger Altman . He is a retired metallurgical engineer, and to my knowledge has been the only one to have done basic 'quantitative analysis' (I remember THAT discipline from college days --- UGH!!!) re colloidal silver input/output re a human subject. I know of no one who has more relevant and precision details. He'll strongly recommend that you go for the HVAC (high voltage alternating current) units, rather than the LVDC ones (with which you and I are familiar.) We walked separate paths on that pre-Y2K because I felt there would only be meager supplies of electricity available, mostly from solar panels (I use series connections to get 27vDC at 30mA for an hour.) However, in this post-Y2K environment, if you want high quality stuff (which is what your specs above infer), you'll probably want to go the HVAC route.

[One proviso about Roger. He has given me all this info confidentially. I don't know how much he wants to part with to the public. Treat him with respect and show him your sincere interest, for non-commercial reasons, and he may be forthcoming.] Now Roger designed his own HVAC genny & believes it's clearly superior to the commercial ones available, and also dirt cheap. From our technical conversations I would agree with him on the superiority of his design. I have reservations about recommending anybody following his footsteps only because of the danger from lethal voltages with such equipment. But if you know your way around electronics it's no big deal.

However, if you're 'electronics challenged' you can buy reliable HVAC units from CSProSystems in TX (Bruce Marx) , or Advanced Colloidal Systems in IA (David Ripley, DC.) . Yes, they're businessmen, but I have talked to both of them enough to feel them trustworthy in their dealings.

If you want to stay with LVDC then your concise source is the thread I pointed you to (and inside that thread, the post called "March 24 (1998)Update".) I've updated my recommendations re dosage schedule and safety (in light of Roger's work) since then, but you should be able to find that info too on the old threads (Go to the Prep Forum 'Older Messages,' then 'Health Care - Alternate Healing Methods'.)

Re measuring devices the inexpensive TDS-1 handheld (details should be in the older msgs) can give you a rough, relative idea of concentration of your output, but if you want to accurate ppm use a commercial lab (I quote a source in the old posts somewhere.) If you want info on your particle size spend $20,000 on an electron microscope. (On the other hand, Roger says, with his setup you can predict just what the particle size is without any instruments!)

Finally, I've been out of the picture since summer of '98; progress has been made re good website info -- there's one site that seemed really worthwhile -- I think it's the same one that 'Goldenokie' referenced -- ck it out.

Report back here if you have more questions.

Bill

-- William J. Schenker, MD (wjs@linkfast.net), February 04, 2000.

Let's try Roger's email addy again (darn HTML!); I'll give it two ways in case I make a boo boo again:

rogaltman@aol.com (rogaltman@aol.com).

Bill

-- William J. Schenker, MD (wjs@linkfast.net), February 04, 2000.

More HTLM-caused omissions. CSProSystems --- (www.csprosystems.com); David Ripley --- (www.register.com/motherlode).

Bill

-- William J. Schenker, MD (wjs@linkfast.net), February 04, 2000.