It's Tuesday a.m. and here we are with nothing but a home page. I have created a FrontPage Web, and as luck would have it the Mindspring FrontPage server (which they claim is up 99.5% of the time) is "experiencing latency" which means I am "looping" when I attempt to upload our site.

The site still has plenty of work to be done.

I am hoping that folks can point out the best of what is already out there and web functions that you feel would be most likely to be put to use by our members.

These discussions are one idea. The e-board suggested posting Council pin design ideas on the page. I have thought about creating Adobe Acrobat files for forms and contracts etc. I am thinking in particular about trust forms and steward reports.

Please throw in your two cents worth.

-- Clark Gilman (clarkgilman@carpenterspnwrc.org), February 15, 2000

Answers

Response to Update on Getting Web Up

Thanks Richard,

Tuesday 2/15 pm and mindspring is still down. The Council logo has been rescanned and will be a better image. Yes, the pin design idea is related to producing a tradable pin for the Intl convention.

-- Clark Gilman (clarkgilman@carpenterspnwrc.org), February 16, 2000.

OK, Now the page is up and there is a directory structure and everything. Mindpsring technicians came up with a trick to bump us up the waiting list for FTP server space and La Voila.

As of 2/23 the navigation buttons are up, though I still have a pile of content to post. cg

-- Clark Gilman (clarkgilman@carpenterspnwrc.org), February 24, 2000.

25 April 2000

Thanks Brian-

You comments come at an opportune time. We will show the page off at the May Qtrly mtg, so sprucing it up is in order. I am also going to share the updating responsibilities with one of our secretaries here at the council, so we are loading FrontPage for her and getting her up to speed.

This week I put the first immediately useful content up - Negotiations Updates. I believe this is the appropriate use of the technology, as an immediately and universally available filing cabinet.

I'll consider all of your input and would appreciate if you would continue to think about what might Web based content might be most useful to Council members.

-- Clark Gilman (clarkgilman@carpenterspnwrc.org), April 25, 2000.

David,

Thanks. Stacey is also working on a clean scan of the Council logo, she had one for me that looked too bitmappy. I think that a forum like the one Joel ran will end up being on an unofficial site or list serve, but who knows what the next bend in the river will bring.

I am hoping to have a better color scheme and more content on the web page this week, I am going to present it at the delegates meeting on Saturday. People are finding it, I had a half dozen e-mails generated by the web presence last week, everything from a Contractor wanting a signatory list to a newsletter submission, to a member back East considering a move to montana.

-- Clark Gilman (clarkgilman@carpenterspnwrc.org), May 07, 2000.

Response to Update on Getting Web Up

Hey Clark, I hear you on the Front Page problems, I've had so much trouble I gave it up, and used another editor. posting the pin designs is a good idea, I take it this is a "lapel pin" for the council? I think thr PDF files are a great idea for the forms, I'd like to see the reading material, such as contract, constitution, etc. in HTML When you put the council seal on the page, could we have it a bit larger than before, it seems to need to be about 250 pixels to appreciate the art my 2"

-- richard medisch (joehil@home.com), February 15, 2000.

Dear Mr. Gilman, I support the idea of having a web page, and I wanted to add an observation of what another organization I am affiliated with has done to augment theirs. I speak of the National Smokejumper Association. The NSA maintains a web page, a fairly exhaustive one, and it is a good thing, but it takes a lot of time to go through it to find new information. What the NSA did was to email all its members who have the technology, and ask them if they wanted to subscribe, free of charge, to an email alert/newsletter publication. I responded in the affirmative, and for the past few month the NSA has contacted me directly with members passing on, or with other pertinent news. I know the Washington State Labor Council has the same technology, under the aegis of David Groves (I've never met the guy). Perhaps this would be of use to us, this ability to email out when something newsworthy happens. Keep up the good work, and keep the faith. Fraternally yours, John Aschim jaschim@paclink.com

-- John Aschim (jaschim@paclink.com), February 18, 2000.

Greetings Brother Clark, Congratulations on getting the pages up and running. Hope you don't mind some constructive comments. Navigation buttons are too small making them hard to read even for my good eyes. You may also want to have them on every page not just the main ones. It makes it easier to navigate anywhere anytime. Nice to have addresses of all councils and locals, but maybe get them alphabetized and use the whole screen so you don't have to scroll down so far. You could also provide an automatic link to a map program so a map could be printed out. Similar to what wctc has for locations. Logo is hard to read and has no color. Needs to be converted to a gif file to be better. Same with UBC logo, it is very attractive with a blue background. We have great logo's lets try and show them off. I have other ideas and comments if you want to hear them. Fraternally yours, Brian Deans Local 1715 Skill Advancement Coordinator WCTC

-- Brian Deans (Brian@wctcapp.com), April 21, 2000.

Nice job clark. I have not found an announcements or forum page. I sure miss the 131 discussion by email. We are having a form on Breaching the Snake river Dams... or not on May 12th at the Regional Council Quarterly Meeting. Is there a opportunity to post that fact. or perhaps the questions and answers that come out of the forum?

PS I'll try a color scan of the logo and send it to you.

-- David Bean #247 Portland (dbean@solidnet.com), May 05, 2000.

-----Original Message----- From: TYME1011@aol.com [mailto:TYME1011@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:01 PM To: webadmin@carpenterspnwrc.org Subject: (no subject) GREETINGS BROTHERS i AM HERE TO LET YOU NO I FOUND THE SITE VERRY INFORMATIVE ESPESHULY FOR A PROSPECTIVE APPRENTICE. i AM A PROUD MEMBER OF LOCAL 2416 AND WILL BE UNTELL I DIE. tHER IS HOWEVER ONE THING I THOUGHT MIGHT ADD TO THE SITE AND THAT IS A JOBS LISTING SECTION. THER IS PROBABLY A REASON WHY ITS NOT THERE AND IF SO FILL ME IN . i THANK YOU FOR THE SITE AND FOR YOUR PATCHONTS IN TRYING TO DESIFER THIS PILEBUCKS SPELLING

Greetings Unnamed Pile Buck-

Funny thing about e-mails, they come with no name or phone number or anything attached.

Job listings could become part of the web page. Especially for the Portland Metro area where you have a Central Dispatch already on the computer.

I think that the dispatch record is the most useful job listing for carpenters. At least you know when people were called to a job.

For piledriving work you need to be ahead of the carpenter dispatches, I'm not sure what is the most likely list.

I'll put your suggestions into the mix for the web site. THanks for taking the time to write.

Unity-

Clark Gilman, Organizer

Pacific Northwest Regional Council of Carpenters 4800 S 188th Suite 330 SeaTac WA 98188 206-248-8003, fax 206-248-8606 clarkgilman@carpenterspnwrc.org

-- A Pilebuck (TYME1011@aol.com), May 23, 2000.

A tip of the hard hat to you sir. With all new adventures their are pitfalls. My gratitude to you for seeing this thing through. I am a Millwright Foreman out of Local 204. On the job we have been looking at the website for updates on the negotiations daily when we receive our morning email. This website has spurned more union feelings on our jobsite than anything else that i have seen, at least since they gave out coats at the millwright picnic. I get better than half of my jobs via email and my company(UMC) is talking about making my job a paperless job office (they currently have five going on in WA). The mill that we are working in connected us to their company network and i received an email address for communication within the mill. Anyway,Thanks Again Clark! Scott D.Tennant Millwrights Local 204 Seattle,WA

-- Scott D. Tennant (scottdtennant@netscape.net), May 29, 2000.

Good job on the Web site, Hopefully you get alot of hits, after reading the above I hope that it can remain simple enough that it will look appealling to all who check it out. Alot of nonunion guys will be checking it out also, and I hope they see the benefits of being in the union. Im looking forward to linking our 1273 with the home up there, and spreading the word. This is way better than E- mailing you all those times,sorry:) Keep it on the ground:) Ed Phillips 1273

-- Ed Phillips (PhillipsBigED@AOL.com), March 13, 2001.