A comment to Netghost, and an apology to lisa...greenspun.com : LUSENET : TB2K spinoff uncensored : One Thread |
Netghost,
; o )
I gotta tell you up front, I admire your intelligence and attempts to evade. I don't know how long it took to find a way to re-route your servers. but I'm impressed.
However, you've made one small mistake: your ISP doesn't change.
Every single one of your postings and your two e-mails came from Rattles. I don't know if Rattles is your primary or maybe secondary (?) ISP, but what impresses me in particular is that it's routed based on the last number of your IP, no matter what numbers the rest of your numbers are.
At any rate, I figure you live in Oregon because Rattles is a very small company. I know this because I looked up the number of clients for all ISP's. Rattles probably markets to people in it's area, so it's clients are most likely in the state it originates. Furthermore, your direct e-mails originated from there.
(tsn-ppp154.rattles.com [204.214.126.154])
14 hs-1-0-0.a02.eugnor01.us. ra.verio.net(157.238.24.134) 36 bytes to 130.194.131.62 227 ms 322 ms 227 ms 15 wave-s4-0-5-1.eug11.or.nw.verio.net (206.163.139.68) 36 bytes to 130.194.131.62 287 ms 393 ms 355 ms 16 198.68.31.252 (198.68.31.252) 36 bytes to 130.194.131.62 310 ms 290 ms 252 ms 17 tsn-gw1.rattles.com (206.163.149.254) 36 bytes to 130.194.131.62 392 ms (ttl=14!) 417 ms
I don't know yet how tidal wave fits into all this, although I suspect it may be your primary ISP rerouting to Rattles?
Don't know,...and don't have time to check anymore today. I gotta go. But I just want you to know I'm not gonna necessarily try to find your real name, and furthermore I can promise you if I do find any personal information, I won't post it. (Just don't do anything illegal, Ok?)
lisa,
Obviously I accused you wrongly. I apologize for thinking you were Netghost, and I hope that you will forgive me for thinking what I was thinking. I had to put the record straight because I put my thoughts in writing, and I hope I haven't caused you any trouble. (However, if you hadn't been harassing me in Bok's and here, I never would have confused you!)
I have to get to work. Bye, ya'll.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000
Before I go, I guess I should mention that Netghost e-mailed me and asked me to see if I could trace him.There's no hard feelings between us, just a professional curiosity.
Furthermore, the reason I'm posting this rather than e-mailing him, is because I'd have to e-mail it to half a dozen people, and I don't have time for that today.
I gotta jet... Adios!
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000.
I'm 45, 6'1" 200 lbs. I'm the Service Manager, and IT head for a large Mobile Home Dealership on S. Oregon coast. I Restore old Porsches for fun, and of course, love to camp. I live in a resort that is walking distance of the best bottom fishing in the world. Got Elk, Deer, Quail, Grouse, and Turkey running around in my yard. Year around Greenhouse, and grav. fed water.Are you a Troll?
-- CT (ct@no.yr), July 15, 1999.
I only use Rattles as a jump-off....to throw you jokers off the trail!
-- Ghost of Netghost (CT) (I'm@very.unwise), March 20, 2000.
yawn
-- really (who@cares.?), March 20, 2000.
double yawn
-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), March 20, 2000.
Ms. Laura,Please get a life. This endless tracking of your net-nemises must take an inordinate amount of your time; time which you could be devoting to more worthwhile things.
As a reformed spammer, you must be aware that your reputation lingers with some who witnessed your former life. Therefore, your effectiveness in presenting new information is hampered.
My advise to you, is to get a life, and get off of this forum. The majority of the people here do not value your words; hence they are ineffective and wasted. If you choose to remain, you would be wise to choose a new persona and come back in a more credible manner.
Better yet, why don't you start your own forum. Then, those who prefer your brand of narcissitic nonsense could hang out there to their heart's content.
-- Bill Ransom (laura@is.stupid), March 20, 2000.
Bill,
Kiss off.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000.
Hi Laura,Now THAT is an intelligent response! (sarcastic mode off)
Seriously, are you hanging around here just to stir things up and get reactions, or do you have something worthwhile to contribute? I mean no disrespect. All I am saying is if you do have something to say, your current "persona" taints the message.
By the way, I'm cuious which "Lisa" you're attempting to apologise to.
-- Bill Ransom (laura@is.gorgeous), March 20, 2000.
Bill,
I don't stutter.
Kiss off.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000.
Hi Again Laura,"Stutter?" I fail to see any reference I may have made to this.
Again, I implore you to rethink your actions on this mailing list. I am attempting to enlighten you with some sound advise. I'm sure Lisa would agree with me that your very presence tends to upset some members of this forum, and that you effectiveness as a presenter of information would be greatly enhanced by your anonymity.
Have a pleasant and quiet evening!
-- Bill Ranson (laura@is.confused), March 20, 2000.
Bill,
So, do you think my sole purpose in life is to provide information to an anon??
As an anon????
I do what I want, when I want, the way I want. Haven't you heard????
I reiterate; Kiss off.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000.
Bill,I second Laura's setiments to you; take a hike!
You've stated your position quite clearly. Laura has stated hers also; she does what she wants and doesn't care what you think about it. So just "scroll on". Really, you post basically the same sentiments over and over 'ol boy! Boooooring!! Are you a boooor?
You see Bill, when you just repeat your point over and over, using slightly different wording, you become what you are ACCUSING Laura of...one who just post to irritate and get a reaction. I have no doubt that is a MUCH larger part of your motivation than any desire to be of help to anyone. She has plenty of smarts and evidently needs no guidance from you -- as her responses to you make quite clear. Your ego, if bruised, will heal quickly enough 'ol boy!
One suggestion I'll make to YOU though. Just trying to "help" you here Bill. No need to see you make a fool of yourself 'ol boy! Plenty of other entertainment on this board, you know!
Make it a point to read people's post more carefully before posting. Laura made it clear that she was responding to an invitation of Netghost's to see if she could track him. For all you know, they both enjoyed the challenge or treated it as a learning activity -- also, do try and face up to the fact (if you are self deluded instead of JUST a troll) that YOU don't care about helping Laura. Your attempt at trying to play mind games with her is quite transparent when one reads your post to her. Maybe that's why she doesn't care to respond to you with much for than a couple of words -- quite apt ones in my opinion. Although she definitely needs no one to speak for her, I did want to offer YOU a few kind words to "help" you, Bill. You obviously need it 'ol boy! Cheerio now! Good day!!
Kiss off, idiot troll; you're too transparent!
-- Agentleman (doesntmatter@here.now), March 20, 2000.
Agentleman,
I'm amazed at how well you know my heart, my mind, and my intentions,...
As well as his, my darling......
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000.
P. S.
My nephew will be here soon, so let me give you a.......
huggggggggggggggggg,............
.............a kiss on the forehead...................................
and a pleasant thought for Christmas...................
(I adore you, my sweet man.)
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000.
Hey Laura - is A. Gentleman eating that shit-smelling pussy of yours? Doesn't he know you're a she-male yet?Hey A- that's an asshole you been licking!
-- EWWWW YUKKKKK (Laura@shitpants.com), March 20, 2000.
Go to sleep, cavscout.
You obviously need the rest.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 20, 2000.
I got a call which didn't showup on may caller ID waiting for ms. laura. I guessed someone was using a internet phone hunting laura. I hope they know that they were barking up the wrong tree. I wasn't on the net but thought this was just srange the only laura I know or no know is here. So here I am checking want is going on.
-- ET (bneville@zebra.net), March 20, 2000.
Hi Laura, glad to see you took up the challenge :-) Actually, you've done better than all the Idiots at De Bunker ever did, and they were motivated !... but you'll never get past Rattles, nor will you figure out the tidal wave angle, but have fun trying :-) Oh... and I Never do anything illegal.....Ghost of Netghost...... FO :-)
Same for you cin......
Bill Ransom,
Take Agentleman's advice.... don't stick your nose into other peoples affairs. a truce has been signed, now it's just amongst friends..... kinda :-) Bet Agenleman has had a few things to say about toilets and flushing? :-)
Laura, I'm glad the truce is holding, no sense for our battle now that TB2k is history, and I wish you luck...... you'll need it :-)
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 21, 2000.
Domain Name: RATTLES.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: www.networksolutions.com Name Server: CHAT.WAVE.NET Name Server: TIDAL.WAVE.NET Updated Date: 08-aug-1999http://www.wave.net/cgi-bin/wavebanner.pl -lists http://www.wave.net/tsn/tsunami/tsunami.html hosted by: http://www.coastalhosting.com/tcs/ (now defunct Rattles.com)
-- (notmuch@to_go_on.com), March 21, 2000.
After reading the posts I think the person who called me might be the poster called Bill Ransom.
-- ET (bneville@zebra.net), March 21, 2000.
Internet 101. Big freaking deal.Web Interface to Whois
-- Duh (tech@big.isp), March 21, 2000.
Same for me what?
-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), March 21, 2000.
cin...... FO..... do you know what that means?
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 21, 2000.
If you people don't know what this mean I do!No peace ever everyone in your life always, do you realy what this?
-- ET (bneville@zebra.net), March 21, 2000.
oh jeez 'netghost'. would you get a life or something
-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), March 21, 2000.
ET..... funny how some DGI :-)The war is over.....
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 21, 2000.
IS EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD MENTAL?!
-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), March 21, 2000.
No cin....... just you :-)
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 21, 2000.
Hey -- EWWWW YUKKKKKESAD
Nuff said.
-- Agentleman (doesntmatter@here.now), March 21, 2000.
Good morning, everyone,
You've been busy while I've been snoozing, haven't you?
ET: I don't know you from Adam, so your remarks interested me the most. Did you really get a call ID'ed as ms. laura? How can caller ID do that? I thought it always had to display someone's actual name. (Mine would register as Laura Merkley.)
I agree with you, it probably was Bill Ransom. Are you in California? If you are, can I e-mail you a phone number to compare it to? (Or, vice versa since I don't know if your address is real.)
Netghost: I agree with everything you said. This is not personal, it's just a challenge we're both enjoying :o)
Some of the people around here haven't been all over the "net with us so I doubt they'll ever understand our "relationship".
People, please just scroll past our posts if you don't enjoy this sort of thing. There's nothing hateful going on here. There is a mutual respect between me and Netghost, because regardless of what was said in the past, I truly admire his/her ability to walk in sand and not leave footprints. Nobody's gonna get hurt, and nobody's gonna get "outed".
(By the way, NG, I don't know what FO stands for, and I'm sitting here hoping you don't think I'm cinlooo, do you? I swear to God, I'm not.
Hi cin!
Agentleman: Good morning, mi corazon. As I drifted off to sleep last night, my thoughts were of you. Nine months is insane, and I think cinloo is right, we are all MENTAL :o) but this is sooo much fun! As you know, I don't have a lot of free time, but I'm gonna take time to post a love letter to you every once in awhile. I truly do adore you, even if we just remain....
.....a thought,...............
........................ a smile,...............................
.................................................a dream.............
But, PLEASE! Don't keep defending me my darling. There are r/t things that need to be done. When a no name troll hassles me, just scroll on by, Ok, sweetheart? It's not worth our time and effort to give him any recognition at all. As you so correctly stated last night, I'm not about to waste any more of my time than to write, "Kiss off". I've read his recycled crap a dozen times before, and so has everyone else. He's run out of things to say, babe, just let it go........
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 21, 2000.
You've got it babe!We Do think alike :) (bet some are groaning now!)
And, you've got mail on exactly this point. I concur!!
Huggggggggggggs... and a kisssssssss...
P.S. Enjoy yourself, dear one!!
Smiling here -- the trolls ARE amusing hahahahahaha!!
-- Agentleman (doesnt@matter.now), March 21, 2000.
Dearest Laura and her Gentlemen,I shall depart this thread and leave you in your playpen for now. Good luck tracking my elusive counterparts; they know all the tricks in the book, and it must be great fun.
As I've said, I have no ill will for anyone on this net, but was merely trying to point out the impression an uninititiated individual may conclude upon stumbling upon this forum.
To all, a good day and good night!
PS: ET, sorry about the wrong number.
-- Bill Ranson (bye@for.now), March 21, 2000.
Shut up, Mark,
You're just being nice because I know who you are, and you don't want me to post your last e-mail.
YOU started this shit, and you're the one keeping it up.
You have the balls to bitch at me about privacy because I posted Netghost's e-mail address, but YOU breeched ethics and MY privacy when you e-mailed my picture to people.
You're such a fuckin' hypocrite, you make me sick.
"As I've said, I have no ill will for anyone on this net, but was merely trying to point out the impression an uninititiated individual may conclude upon stumbling upon this forum."
Just who do you think is going to stumble in here? Y2k is LONG over, and anyone looking for ANY kind of information from Yourdon is an idiot anyway.
Get real, you're a phoney and a player and it's no wonder you've never been married or can't even keep a cyber-girlfriend.
You're pathetic.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 21, 2000.
Laura,I resent your insinuation that I may be a common troll, or worse. I have been totally civil and nonconfrontational toward you and your gentleman friend. Let's call a truce and be done with it.
How did you find out my name? Now, you've got me really curious.
Anyway, for your information I have had lots of girlfriends, and in fact have a steady one at the moment!
I won't bother you anymore; I'm tired of being rebuffed for attempting to help someone, so go on your merry way.
Cheers!
-- Bill Ransom (not@a.troll), March 21, 2000.
As usual, you continue to demonstrate your stupidity.
If anyone truly wanted to "help" someone, they would do it by e-mail. They certainly wouldn't attempt to humiliate them in a public forum. You've pulled this tactic several times, Mark. You are boring me, and all of the other posters as well.
I think it's funny that you state you were trying to be civil and nonconfrontational, when you first posted:
"My advise to you, is to get a life, and get off of this forum."
"Then, those who prefer your brand of narcissitic nonsense could hang out there to their heart's content."
My advice to you is you should get your own forum. You could call it, "I hate Laura because she won't love me. Waaaaaa."
I'd also like to invite you to keep trolling me.
You only make me look good.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 21, 2000.
OK, LauraYou speak that the proper way to conduct personal business is via e-mail. If this is the case why don't you contact Mr. Myster (a.k.a. "Netghost") via e-mail instead of cluttering up a public forum - that was my point exactly. I was attempting to prevent you from making a fool of yourself.
I initially used rather blunt language, because in my observation of your net behavior, I came to the assumption that you would respond in a positive and efficacious manner to that type of correspondence. Evidently, I was mistaken, and convey my sincere apologies. Again, I implore you to "bury the hatchet" and forgive and forget.
I am indeed to be pitied without your favor. Please do NOT respond to me, and I will go away and leave you in peace.
-- William Ranson (I@quit.now), March 21, 2000.
I already explained why I posted it. Apparently, everyone understood but you.
I will go away and leave you in peace.
Yeah, right.
That's at least the third time you've said that in as many months. I know better now, Mark. I know that I'm destined to put up with your harassment as long as I live. Fine. I'm willing to put up with it. However, I think your obsession with me is sick but, in my heart I don't wish anything bad upon you, I just hope you get help.
Maybe that girlfriend you mentioned can help. Maybe if you give her a little more attention, you'll be less likely to be obsessing about me??
~*~?
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 21, 2000.
Laura,I wonder if the guy would still harass you if you had a man in your life who could snap his bones like twigs -- quickly -- and take him apart like a machine?
Bet ONE visit would be enough to convince him of the error of his ways. Maybe he will learn before it's too late for him.
Tick tock....your meter is getting low...don't push your luck, punk.
Best leave her be jerk. Else you are going to HATE finding out who you are going to have to deal with. Don't laugh this off, idiot. To do so would be a tragic mistake -- for you. Suggest you knock your bullshit off. While you still have teeth to laugh thru -- and a jaw that's not wired shut -- in several places.
Think I'm kidding? Hold a seance. And ask around.
-- Evil Grin (DeadSerious@TB.uncensored), March 21, 2000.
Now, now, now, evil grin.
That's NOT necessary. (True, but not necessary :o)
My fingers and keyboard are quite capable of defending me, so let's drop it, Ok?
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 21, 2000.
Cut it out, kids. This is an uncensored forum. Who cares?
-- Y2K Amateur (Y2KAmateur@hotmail.con), March 21, 2000.
Uhhhhhh Laura,You have the balls to bitch at me about privacy because I posted Netghost's e-mail address,
Just where did you post my e-mail addy?.... If I wanted my e-mail out in the public I'd use it instead of my annon addy :-(
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 21, 2000.
Netghost,I'm sorry, I meant your I.P. address, not your e-mail address.
(However, I DO have one of your e-mail addresses, remember? Don't worry, I won't even post that :o)
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 21, 2000.
P.S.
You never told me what FO stands for.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 21, 2000.
K.... had me worried there.... I thought the truce had been broken...I have no problem with my IP being posted... can't do anything with it anyway.. I just didn't want to be Mail Bombed by the nuts over at Bifffy.... that would piss me off....
Ask cin loo what FO means :-)
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 21, 2000.
oh FO will you
-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), March 21, 2000.
cin, you said: oh FO will youYou blew that one..... It should be,
Oh FO. Will you?
No I won't... till you get your meds right :-)
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 21, 2000.
Had you a problem understanding that? Yeah, I thought not.Just how anal retentive are you anyway?
-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), March 22, 2000.
cin.Just how anal retentive are you?...... do you clench up, or just relax :-)
See if you can find a real life, Laura did :-)
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 22, 2000.
"A gentleman", if you truly are a gentleman, you'll understand what I'm saying. Making physical threats to another poster on my forum is not cool.Laura, "Bill Ransom" is not cavscout/Mark. In fact cavscout has not posted on this thread. Checked IP's.
Sorry to barge in on your party like this, really I'd rather stay out of this completely.
OTFR
-- Old TB2K Forum Regular (freespeech@yahoo.com), March 22, 2000.
Gawd netghost...what are you, a parrot or something? I'm flattered that you like my style but...try to get your own material. Have you no originality?{major eye roll}
-- cin (cinlooo@aol.com), March 22, 2000.
OTFR,
I suggest you stay out of this, or give me the IP's.
In case you haven't been reading this thread, there are ways to reroute your transmissions. Mark has been friends with Netghost for at least four months now, and I don't doubt s/he taught him how to do it.
Additionally, Mark has family with computers, and access to many others. It doesn't matter if he's using his regular computer or not, that is Mark/cavscout
I've known him for seven months, and I know who he is by what he says.
Furthermore, he e-mailed me at 1:00 just to taunt me.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
Forget what I just said. It's too late for you to stay out of this because you've already stuck your nose in this.
I'm so pissed off I'm ready to go off!
I think I've been damn patient with you because I know that post from Ron Schwartz wasn't a coincidence.
I have some work to do today, and then I'm going to have supper with my mother. While I'm gone I suggest you reread this thread and this one Link and think of a way that we can work this out.
Free speech does NOT include four months of harassment. You can't yell fire in a theatre and you can't stand outside my door yelling at me. I don't know how to get that through to you, OTFR.
I'm gonna go now before I say something I'll regret.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
OTFRI'm so fuckin' pissed off that I feel the need to come back here to do this; but here goes....
I think it's necessary you see how long and how much cavscout's been harassing me. Maybe that way, you can understand why I'm ready to go off. He admitted to harassing me the night DeBunker's closed, and you can see his handle ROTFL@U all over that board harassing me! Furthermore, he kept it up at Biffy but YOU can't tell who he is because IP's aren't displayed. He's pulling the same shit here, and my patience is wearing thin.
"Posted by (205.162.250.175) ROTFL@U aka Cavscout (yes, that's right laura :) on January 31, 2000 at 21:06:22:"
Additionally, if you need anymore convincing that he's a maggot, all you need to do is read this: cavscout
I'm gonna leave now before I fucking explode!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
I'll bet my blood pressure is sky-high right now :o)
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
Oh, for Christ's sake. It would be easier to pound this place into cyberspace rather than try to prove my point.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
OTFR is just trying to help, Laura. I don't think you have to go off on him or anything. He's not the one harassing you.And whoever this Bill Ransom person is, he's apparently stopped posting here, at least under that name.
You know they're just trying to get you riled up. They only like to see you get mad. Don't give them the pleasure. It'll make them miserable. LOL.
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 22, 2000.
Hey all,Although this is none of my business, I cant help but notice how long this thread is getting....
LL, can you briefly explain what the hell is going on? Ok, it appears someone is harrassing you. We've been thru that...You handled that well.
What I am concerned about is it appears you 'track' those who do so, and my question is why? Are these attacks recent? And if they are 'old', let it go.
Please dont involve the forum administrator, he/she has enough to do I'm sure, unless of course someone is threatening your life..
If I am 'clueless', forgive me. It just seems this is getting nowhere. And, since I do like you and think you have a good sense of humor, and in spite of 'the past' all the rest are pretty tolerant, please be careful not to jump on the administrator.
Consumer who is passing LL a valium and a Triple shot of Baileys.
-- consumer (shh@aol.com), March 22, 2000.
I have to make this short because I have to post to another thread, and then get over to my parents house.Consumer,
I can't take the time right now to explain what's happened in the last four months. It's all there in the links I gave. If you're really curious you can read them, if not it's no big deal. (Thanks for the tranqs, though :o)
OTFR,
I don't think I made it clear that I'm not going to spam.
I'm not going to spam.
I've promised you that a couple of times, but I'm not sure you know that I'll keep my word. If I ever do go "off," that means I'll pull stunts that aren't any worse than what my trolls have done.
TTFN
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
In case you haven't been reading this thread, there are ways to reroute your transmissions. Mark has been friends with Netghost for at least four months now, and I don't doubt s/he taught him how to do it.Laura, I don't know Mark, I've never worked with anyone, and I wouldn't tell anyone my tricks.... if someone wants to spend the time and do the research, more power to them.... but give it away?... is to LOL :-)
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 22, 2000.
Ok, I believe you Netghost. I suspect he wouldn't be smart enough to understand if you tried to teach him anyway.
The second option must be the right one then. He must have used another computer because it doesn't take any brains or finesse to pull that BS off.
I'm sorry I accused you of being smart enough to reroute your transmissions, cavscout.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
"OTFR,Don't sweat it. Moderating a forum is never easy. :)
What probably happened was, Gordon wrote that on someone else's account (or perhaps a computer at work), but gave her personal email address. Happens all the time.
I have several accounts with different ISPs, some for work, some for play. I'm likely to switch as the whim hits (for example, if I'm having trouble logging on with my current provider, I may switch for a few weeks).
I'm glad to see your reasoned and balanced approach. The sysops at TB2000 used to drive me crazy trying to play Sherlock Holmes with IP addresses. They could NOT get it through their heads that you *cannot* positively identify a poster by IP address.
(Shoot, you can't even get a good idea. All an IP reveals is which access node the poster happened to be logged into when he/she decided to post a message here. Sometimes the path will get routed through really odd places, too; you can't even determine the city with any guaranteed accuracy.)
-- Me (me@thisplace.net), March 22, 2000."
OTFR,
This poster is partially right. If you aren't doing anything more than a reverse DNS lookup you CAN'T do anything more than guess who someone is.
Bill Ransom is Cavscout, and unless you're willing to give me access to your log files, I'd like to hear you admit you were wrong about your earlier statement.
(However, I'm not gonna beat you up over this. I know you're doing your best.)
Have a nice night.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
Sorry I gave you credit for being smart enough to figure out who's really dogging you.I'm done worrying about you.
-- (cavscout@fix.net), March 22, 2000.
YOU worried about Me?
I'll see you in hell.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
Yes I really got a call from someone asking for ms laura! No number on my caller id, didn't show up at all. So the only thing it could have been was a call from an internet phone which woun't show up.
-- ET (bneville@zebra.net), March 22, 2000.
Thanks ET,
That means my nemesis is either cavscout or Steve Heller.
Is your phone company able to tell you where that call originated from? If you can find out, will you please call me collect? Please e-mail and let me know if/when you're going to call, Ok?
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
Laura, why don't you just quit? Your biggest "Troll" has declared truce.. Me :-)You'll never know who is who, so why bother?.... Go on with your life and ignore the jabs, post if you have something to say, but get over it !!!
There are some people that are pissed at what you did on TB2k, and you will continue to get feedback from that.... it's life, time to put it behind you. I went after cpr because he said he was keeping files and would turn them over to the proper authorities..... I hate tattle-tales so..... :-)
My best advice would be to go back to ignoring troll posts, after a time they will die out, but only if you let them.......
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 22, 2000.
Laura,I have to agree with Netghost on this. This has to be a terribly distressing way to spend your time.
Don't you have a boyfriend you would rather spend your time with?
This post is made in the spirit of love to you Laura. I would be happy to share with you by e-mail if you would like.
-- Jerry (jerry19622@yahoo.com), March 22, 2000.
Following Laura Merkely's links:Posted by (205.162.250.175) ROTFL@U aka Cavscout (yes, that's right laura :) on January 31, 2000 at 21:06:22:
CPR-
You are obviously a highly intelligent man who believes fiercely in what you are doing ala' Y2K.
I would have saved myself a lot of worry if I'd listened to you and the others here, but overall life goes on post-Y2k.
If I could do one thing over, it would be to have come here more often and listened MORE CLOSELY. That's my mistake, but like I said, it's not the end of the world.
If I could give you a piece of advice: Believe it or not, if you treat people with just a small amount of respect, they will at least listen to you. I would have.
Good Luck.
-----------------Why, yes, Laura!! I would say Cavscout does sound like a very dangerous and disturbed man!!--------------------------------------
Date: Feb 10, 08:22 From: Ladylogic
This is the last time my fingers are going to exert any effort for you. You are so stupid you believe people on talk shows, youre white trash, and a militia member wannabe. I haven't even come close to listing all your "qualities" but I'm not going to waste any more of my time.------------heehee. Laura's honesty and integrity should never be in doubt!----------------------
(cavscout@fix.net), December 13, 1999.
I am advising you to end your obsession with being seen as right, or even just understood here. Your have damaged your reputation too badly too be taken seriously anymore. Even people like Bad Company are not taking you seriously.
If you continue to keep up this behavior, you WILL be banned. And you know what, nobody will care. This forum tolerates civil debate. You have passed your usefulness. You can rant and rave all you want about how unfair it is, but you will be gone, and none of your views will make it on this board.
OTOH, if you stop acting like a 3 year old in here, you may survive, and your posts allowed to remain up. It's your decision.
----------------------She didn't listen then, she's not listening now------------------
-- Still Loony (after@all.these years), March 22, 2000.
Laura,Telling someone you will see them in hell is not something a born again person would likely say. You have claimed to be a born again christian. Are you a born again or any other type of christian? I really am curious. Do you go to church anywhere? Do you read your bible? If you recently became a christian like I think I remember you saying, you need to focus seriously on your new found faith and start feeding it so you grow in your new found faith.
I really would like to read your response on this matter. Thanks.
-- KM (Karen@home.now), March 22, 2000.
Ha ha!
You guys are too cute. (Mostly you, L in SL.)
Don't worry about me, I'm done with my trolls after today.
Nite, nite....
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
L in SL? GAWD!! This woman has been wrong more often than Gary North!! ROFLMAO!!
-- Still Loony (after@all.these years), March 22, 2000.
Whoa,
We must have posted at the same time, or else you guys posted while I was writing.
Looks like I have new trolls.
Fuck off, cpr and Polly!
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
You too, Mark.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
In case you didn't hear me the first time:
Fuck all of you.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
wow,I was just reborn..............
In my own image.
You "christians" can go to hell.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@....), March 22, 2000.
She's makin' a list and checkin' it twice
Gonna find out who's naughty or niceOld Git
Diane Squire
Lisa B.
Helen
Anita
Manny
Cavscout
Netghost
Hawk
Steve Heller
cpr
Ron Schwarz
Polly
hattieGolly Winkies, why are all these people trolling?
P.S. - Did I miss anyone?
-- Still Loony (after@all.these years), March 22, 2000.
Yes! You forgot CJS, OTBR and Bill Ranson! I'm sure there are more...
-- (-X_@234.rtl), March 22, 2000.
You aren't talented enough to use html, cavscout.
Go to bed.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 22, 2000.
Fuck you, asshole.
(And the little dog you rode in on.)
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
You aren't astute enough to know who you're conversing with, Laura.Go away
-- (SheSo@crazy.now), March 23, 2000.
By the way, I don't stutter. I meant it when I said Fuck you to every last one of you.
Ya'll can kiss my pretty, white, powdered butt.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
Laura, I find your several post above quite over the top. Do you really think all these people you told to fuck off are on line at this late hour posting to you? Most of all, I doubt cpr would troll you. What makes you think he of all people would do so? As to the others you mentioned, all I can say is you sure are accusing a lot of people of making a handfull of post to you.
-- twocentsworth (sh@king.my.head), March 23, 2000.
Don't forget Porky and Richard Dale!
-- (P.I.@making.a list), March 23, 2000.
There's no fucking way I'm going away until I'm ready.
Do I need to draw you a picture to illustrate that??
Kiss my pretty, white, powdered, butt.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
LauraWhat in the world is the matter with you? Why on earth are you ranting and cussing in bold at people like this? In the past you have often accused anon people of being one enemy or another. How often have you been right versus wrong? How many times have you had to say you were sorry? Why do you go thru this endless cycle of rants only to latter say you are sorry? Why do you feel the need to trash and terminate the online friendships you develop with people. Heck, even your arch troll netghost is still at truce with you. Why do you feel a need to make terminate any good will you develop with people? Why do you feel a need to drive people away? Get a grip, girl!
-- allhere (everybody@tb.2000), March 23, 2000.
Maybe you didn't hear me, I said...
Fuck you
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
allhere,Because it adds to the number of "hits" on her thread. This makes her feel special and unique. She lives for this crap. She's probably most of the trolls on this thread.
-- (pathetic@but.true), March 23, 2000.
LadyLogic, who are you talking to? Anyone in particular?
-- ...---... (.-.@......), March 23, 2000.
pathetic@but.trueI don't get her. She just says fuck you without referencing anyone in particular. I think she's all wet in who she thinks are the posters here. Just wish she would clarify so the ones she was speaking to would have no doubt, else EVERYONE will think she's talking to them!
-- !! (wondering@laura.merkley), March 23, 2000.
That could be true.....I just sent her this e-mail... from my real addy..... she knows who I am... kinda :-)
Laura,
Let it go, you seem to be on a self-destuctive path... let it go....
You are destroying any credibility you ever had, and you are working toward getting more trolls after your ass.... or is that your aim?.... I'm done with you,
Netghost
-- Netghost (ng@no.yr), March 23, 2000.
Yes,I'm talking to Mark Troth, John Webb, and Mr Polly.
Fuck you assholes!,/b>
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
Do you really think I give a shit about credibility in cyberspace?
Fuck you Netghost
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
Laura,You really don't mean that..... do you?
Do you really want to bust the truce?.... really? :-)
Think about it..... for real :-)
-- Netghost (Ng@no.yr), March 23, 2000.
netghostyou are to be commended for trying to help her. What you stated in your post is certianly true. I do hope you can help her. She seems to allienate anyone who befriends her. Have you ever heard of Boderline Personality Disorder? That or attention deficit disorder. She must really fear anyone getting close to her to drive people away like that. You really show your character by keeping the truce and still trying to help her. But I do wonder if she is just trying to get more trolls after her. She has said she enjoyes the fighting. Don't blame you though if you are finished with her. You really can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Heck, just look at how many people she thinks are simultaneously attacking her!
-- ohwell (sad@but.true), March 23, 2000.
netghost,She's obviously having a tantrum
This forum has seen enough flames over ladylogic
She might bust the truce
But that doesn't mean YOU have to go to war with her
I suggest you have pitty on her and consider the source
You have won any war of wits or character with her by your behavior towards her after her many post to and about you
I think if you ignore her she will find a new arch enemy to obsess over and rant on about
pretty pathetic way for a grown woman to spend her life, wouldn't you agree?
-- ... (...---@...), March 23, 2000.
I don't know how to say this more plainly:
Fuck you!
All truces and relationships are OFF!
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
Screw you if you think I'm gonna fix my html
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
ohwell--you are right---Borderline Personality Disorder, for certain. She's probably drunk again tonight, too.@ As pathetic as a middle-aged woman who needs to keep reminding everyone how well she did in college. What an empty, shallow, meaningless life.
-- (Sigmund@mandala.foo), March 23, 2000.
...---@...,Yup.... I'm done :-)
-- Netghost (ericvs@wave.net), March 23, 2000.
She's starting to SPAM the board with obscenities now. I suppose it was just a matter of time. Anyone know how to pull the plug on her PC? (BTW, she's posting in white font. GAWD, I remember 12-year-olds doing that at The Well a billion years ago. How old is she, really?)
-- (Get a@real.job), March 23, 2000.
Sigmund,Have to agree with you. A really good book is Borderline Personality Disorder. I hope she gets a copy and reads it. I'm sure she will see herself in its pages. Maybe she will get some help. At the least, she will understand herself much better.
ohwell
-- ohwell (sad@but.true), March 23, 2000.
At least she's over her and not at Biffy. Can y'all keep her??
-- (anon@xxx.xxx), March 23, 2000.
Not to worry. Somebody's calling her. We'll probably get another apology now.
-- (...@X....), March 23, 2000.
Look at this shit. LadyLogic bitching about harassment, after what she did to the old forum. This is tooooo funny! ROTHLMAO!!!!! ROTHLMAO!!!!! ROTHLMAO!!!!! ROTHLMAO!!!!! ROTHLMAO!!!!!
-- Duh (what@fucking.moron), March 23, 2000.
Laura Merkley can't change her spots any more than a polar bear can stop leaving spore on the ice.
-- the woman is nutz (nutz@nutz.nutz.nutz), March 23, 2000.
Just wish she would clarify so the ones she was speaking to would have no doubt, else EVERYONE will think she's talking to them!It would appear that she is talking to a single troll who is posting under multiple names. Perhaps this person is also posting as her, it's hard to tell. It's pretty clear, though, that someone is expending a great deal of effort to convey the impression that she has several trolls going after her. Why this person can't simply leave her alone is a mystery and only proves what a sad and pathetic life he or she has to continue harassing someone in a public forum.
As always, the best advice is to ignore the troll and his/her multiple aliases. He/she likes to see Laura get riled up, but if she simply YAWNS it away, he/she will become frustrated as we have already seen.
. .
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 23, 2000.
hmm,"It would appear that she is talking to a single troll..."
As was mentioned on another thread, there are at least two. If you take that poster's word for it.
"...that someone is expending a great deal of effort..."
No effort at all. Easy to do, and it fills in the waiting time between tasks.
"Why this person can't simply leave her alone is a mystery...."
No mystery. She was annoying, and disruptive on several other forums. She interfered with my life with her pointless, annoying, disruptive behaviour. I am not disruptive to the board; annoying maybe, but only if you go these types of threads. I prefer to think of it as mildly amusing.
"...sad and pathetic life..."
Not at all. Just a little free time here and there...like you, I guess, since you're posting on these threads, too.
-- another mouse click (takes@ll.of.a.second), March 23, 2000.
As was mentioned on another thread, there are at least two. If you take that poster's word for it.Hmmmm, take the word of an anonymous troll who's sole purpose here seems to be to flame another poster.
Nope, guess I won't.
"...that someone is expending a great deal of effort..."
No effort at all. Easy to do, and it fills in the waiting time between tasks.
Indeed. Well, then I should rephrase my statement to:
"Someone is expending some amount of effort to convey the impression that she has several trolls going after her."
No mystery. She was annoying, and disruptive on several other forums. She interfered with my life with her pointless, annoying, disruptive behaviour.
LOL. She interfered with your life? Gee, I thought it was "...Just a little free time here and there..." Perhaps you shouldn't let these forums take such an important place in your life.
I am not disruptive to the board; annoying maybe, but only if you go these types of threads. I prefer to think of it as mildly amusing.
Well, I agree it is amusing that there are indeed people who are so woefully sad that they must take on multiple personalities to flame a single poster. However, it's been done already. Continuing to illustrate how empty some people's lives must be to behave this way ends up being less amusing each time it is tried.
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 23, 2000.
And yet you continue to read these threads....lol!oh well, I do too.
When she spammed the other boards, that was interfering in my life. I was trying to read what folks were writing about various topics, and the news stories they posted. There were some very interesting and informative people at Y2K Debunked and Biffy as well as the original Timebomb. Having to deal with her spamming attacks and pointless drivel when my time was at a premium was what I was referring to.
Back to the show.... lol
-- Teaser (alittle@a.time), March 23, 2000.
Oh, at least she isn't spamming anymore. I think it was someone else doing that here. Can't be sure, but it doesn't make sense for her to do it now. 'course, she hasn't made much sense to me.On with the show...
-- Teaser (alittle@a.time), March 23, 2000.
And yet you continue to read these threads....lol!Yes, I do. But not because of the same old anonymous troll stuff. :-)
When she spammed the other boards, that was interfering in my life. I was trying to read what folks were writing about various topics, and the news stories they posted.
She only spammed TB2000, and you could easily read what folks were writing simply by looking at the New Answers page. She never spammed Debunkers or Biffy. She may have yelled at people, but she never spammed there.
There were some very interesting and informative people at Y2K Debunked and Biffy as well as the original Timebomb. Having to deal with her spamming attacks and pointless drivel when my time was at a premium was what I was referring to.
Yes, I believe I can hear the violins now. You were unable to scroll past her "drivel" on Debunkers and Biffy and seemed unable to click on the "New Answers" link on TB2000. What a tragedy. Yes, it must be all her fault. She must have broken your scrolling and clicking fingers too. LOL
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 23, 2000.
hmm,You're a very nice person, and I apreciate all the work you've done defending me, but I hate to see you wasting your time.
Let it go, please. Their words can't hurt me, but having you waste your time does. Some people will never understand, and that's Ok with me. It's high-time you start joining in conversations about important things! (There was an interesting thread started by Hoff, if you're so inclined :o)
Gotta go,........
later!
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
hmm,She only spammed TB2000, and you could easily read what folks were writing simply by looking at the New Answers page. She never spammed Debunkers or Biffy. She may have yelled at people, but she never spammed there.
Well, if she didn't spam at the others, someone copied her very well. The result of that spamming was a cessation of conversation until it ended. Just like at Timebomb. Not that I am saying she caused Timebomb to go off line. I believe that was by several folk downloading it, or something to that effect.
Yes, I believe I can hear the violins now. You were unable to scroll past her "drivel" on Debunkers and Biffy and seemed unable to click on the "New Answers" link on TB2000. What a tragedy. Yes, it must be all her fault. She must have broken your scrolling and clicking fingers too. LOL
Did someone link a sound byte here? I don't hear anything... lol
I did scroll past it then, and I did/do usually read through at 'new answers,' but she disrupted conversation. Plain and simple.
As for scrolling fingers, lol, this is kinda close to home. I have one hand, and it has three fingers. I use Voice Type simply Speaking Gold. Then I go back and adjust the post by hand to suit. But, how could you know. No worries, mate. lol
LL,
You're a very nice person, and I appreciate all the work you've done defending me, but I hate to see you wasting your time.
Nice sentiments, but it is hmm's time to spend as hmm sees fit.
...Some people will never understand...
Some people do.
And from another of your threads of "drivel"...
I thought maybe I'd better explain so that you don't think I'm a complete lunatic :o)
Too late. Too late by a long shot!
I'm sorry the decent people of this forum had to hear me tell them to FO...
So typical of you.
(It's really hard to offend me anyway :o)
If what has been attributed to you is accurate, I find this hard to believe. Considering what you have admitted to doing in the past, I don't believe this at all.
At any rate, I've learned a LOT from my trolls. The personal lessons they've taught me are invaluable, and the internet skills I've learned I'll take to the bank. In a sense, they've done me a lot of good. They've kept me jumping instead of discussing sex, religion, and politics.
Pity you didn't learn anything about 'netiquette' from all the folk who pleaded with you to stop your harassment. And the lies? How many times have you said you were leaving?
I have to take off now, but I just wanted to let you know what I was up to and why. Adios 'till this evening, muchachos!
There's another one.....
Until this evening, then. Have a good day, and be safe.
LOL
(Gee, I think this is the first time I have posted directly to you. Isn't that special?)
LOL
-- another other (green@cres.is.on), March 23, 2000.
I did scroll past it then, and I did/do usually read through at 'new answers,' but she disrupted conversation. Plain and simple.So now she only "disrupted conversation?" LOL. You said she "interfered with your life". Lots of people disrupted conversation. Did they all interfere with your life too? You must get a lot of interference in your life.
And from another of your threads of "drivel"...
And I don't quite understand why you aren't responding to Laura on the thread where she supposedly wrote this "drivel." Not that you'd necessarily get a response.
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 23, 2000.
I did scroll past it then, and I did/do usually read through at 'new answers,' but she disrupted conversation. Plain and simple.So now she only "disrupted conversation?" LOL. You said she "interfered with your life". Lots of people disrupted conversation. Did they all interfere with your life too? You must get a lot of interference in your life.
Well, with limited time to read and converse at those times, it was interference of my life in that I was unable to converse with others that were pissed off and left because of her. Simple little posts such as this are easy enough to ignore as you scroll the thread. When all new questions are being pushed off the page, and people leave, well, that ends the conversing. Those that remain try to continue, and some just start ranting at her or about her. Not constructive use of time for me.
And from another of your threads of "drivel"...
And I don't quite understand why you aren't responding to Laura on the thread where she supposedly wrote this "drivel." Not that you'd necessarily get a response.
She was here, I was here. That post was in the next window. Why post twice when one will do?
Apparently she did in fact leave shortly after the post here, so I will retract that addition to her 'leaving announcements.'
Now, on with the show!
-- And awaaaaaaaaay we go! (Honeymooners@re.rightous), March 23, 2000.
Well, with limited time to read and converse at those times, it was interference of my life in that I was unable to converse with others that were pissed off and left because of her.This is getting more and more absurd with each post. Okay, so now it wasn't the disruptions that interfered with your life, it was the fact that other people left due to these disruptions. So now it is apparently these "other people" whose fingers she figuratively broke so as not to allow them to scroll past her posts or click on "New Answers" in order to find what they want. And who were these mysterious people? I don't recall anyone being so upset with her as to leave the forums.
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 23, 2000.
wow,
It seems pointless for me to even post here tonight. Hmm did an outstanding job with the woman who watches TV too much. S/he brilliantly explained her faulty thinking with her/his arguments.
Good job, hmm! Sure glad you're on my side.
How much do I owe ya?
Isn't that special?
If you're Diane, why don't you just come out and say so. (Of course, I wouldn't expect you to now that hmm has humiliated you.)
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
By the way, I asked for Diane to respond because the woman writing those posts was obviously a doomer, and Diane used that phrase with me when she discovered my second IP.
FAT CHANCE SHE'D EVER ADMIT IT IF IT IS HER.
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 23, 2000.
This is getting more and more absurd with each post.And yet you continue to try and understand. That is to be admired.
Okay, so now it wasn't the disruptions that interfered with your life, it was the fact that other people left due to these disruptions.
You can twist it anyway you want. Her spamming disrupted the forum. I found that her spamming interfered in my life at that time.
So now it is apparently these "other people" whose fingers she figuratively broke so as not to allow them to scroll past her posts or click on "New Answers" in order to find what they want.
Why do you continue with the broken fingers? Some folk left. I know this. You can ask them what their motivations were. I will not speak for them here.
And who were these mysterious people? I don't recall anyone being so upset with her as to leave the forums.
Does it matter whether you noticed or not? No.
LL,
It seems pointless for me to even post here tonight. Hmm did an outstanding job with the woman who watches TV too much. S/he brilliantly explained her faulty thinking with her/his arguments.
Laura, honey, please sit down. This is probably gonna come as a shock to you.
It is pointless for you to post. Always has been and may always be. Considering your troll like behaviour, of which there are many examples, this should be obvious to you. It has been pointed out to you many many many times. Did you think you got the name 'troll' or 'ladylunacy' because others forgot how to spell logic? LOL
If you're Diane, why don't you just come out and say so. (Of course, I wouldn't expect you to now that hmm has humiliated you.)
Guess all you like as to who I am. Do not expect any confirmation. I do not see or feel any humiliation here. Hmm and I were conversing.
By the way, I asked for Diane to respond because the woman writing those posts was obviously a doomer, and Diane used that phrase with me when she discovered my second IP. FAT CHANCE SHE'D EVER ADMIT IT IF IT IS HER.
Well lan'sakes, child! I do believe, ah say, I do believe you are trying to put me into one of your y2k catagories! Doomer or polly. Now who is stuck in y2k? Hasn't it ever occurred to you that some of us were there [and here] for other reasons besides y2k?
Yes, I agree, "FAT CHANCE SHE'D EVER ADMIT IT IF IT IS HER."
You really have this weird compulsion to out people. Get over it. Deal with each post as named, and create a persona in your mind for each. It would be much more entertaining. You would be less likely to get upset over them as when you were outed regarding your phone number. You posted it yourself, you fool! But then again, it fits your MO: Dumb.
"If you're Diane, why don't you just come out and say so." "By the way, I asked for Diane to respond..."
Questions get these little things at the end, okay??????????? Just wanted to point that out.
Thank you for watching. We now return control of your computer to you. LOL
-- She in the Outer Limits (outerlimits@final.frontier), March 23, 2000.
LL is anal. hence the butt post. the trolls are fools to post here.
-- byte (me@ss.bitch), March 24, 2000.
You can twist it anyway you want. Her spamming disrupted the forum. I found that her spamming interfered in my life at that time.LOL, I'm not the one twisting anything here. You accused her of interfering with your life. I pointed out that simply scrolling past her posts would eliminate this "interference." You then decided she merely "disrupted conversation," which, of course, was not "interfering with your life." And then, of course, you decide that it was when other people left that she again "interfered with your life," which simply brings us back to her being somehow responsible for the behavior of these "other people" and their inability to scroll past what they don't like.
Maybe you want to take some time to make up your mind as to why exactly you are so upset with her.
Why do you continue with the broken fingers?
Do you not understand the symbolism? I didn't think you'd have so much difficulty with such a simple concept.
Some folk left. I know this. You can ask them what their motivations were. I will not speak for them here.
But you already did speak for them here. You said they left because of her. And I can't ask them what their motivations were because you haven't identified who they are.
I wrote:
And who were these mysterious people? I don't recall anyone being so upset with her as to leave the forums.
You responded:
Does it matter whether you noticed or not? No. So, apparently these mysterious people who left because of Laura are also nameless. LOL
LL,
It is pointless for you to post. Always has been and may always be. Considering your troll like behaviour, of which there are many examples, this should be obvious to you.
If "troll like behaviour" is a reason for it being pointless for someone to post, then why are you still posting here?
It has been pointed out to you many many many times. Did you think you got the name 'troll' or 'ladylunacy' because others forgot how to spell logic? LOL
Actually, she got those names when she started turning "polly". You can see a bit of evidence of this here. Yes, I understand the concept of "evidence" is apparently foreign to you, but there's always the possibility that you might learn something from this.
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 24, 2000.
Thanks again, hmm!
If that person was looking for reliable "information" at TimeBomb, she was in a world of hurt. One of the two reasons I pounded TB was to stop the flow of mis/b>/b>information there. (I think I even wrote that back at DeBunker's somewhere, but I don't want to go look it up now.)
Like I said, some people will never understand.
Hey!, I just went to the link you gave, and read my post the first time though since I wrote it. You know what I found to be the most important thing I said? This:
I think we should enjoy today - today.
Come on, let's ditch this thread and go play somewhere else. (You can come too, TV lady.)
:o)
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 24, 2000.
Hmm,Maybe you want to take some time to make up your mind as to why exactly you are so upset with her.
You are suffering from selective reading and comprehension.
Some folk left. I know this. You can ask them what their motivations were. I will not speak for them here.
But you already did speak for them here. You said they left because of her.
That is my view of their departure. Which was substantiated by a few I caught up with elsewhere later.
And I can't ask them what their motivations were because you haven't identified who they are....And who were these mysterious people? I don't recall anyone being so upset with her as to leave the forums. Does it matter whether you noticed or not? No. So, apparently these mysterious people who left because of Laura are also nameless. LOL
So, you know of no one that left the forum at the times of her spamming. And you know of no one that left the forum never to return. You want me to give names [ie., handles?] and explain their motivations. Nope. LOL If any want to explain themselves to you, they can do it themselves.
If "troll like behaviour" is a reason for it being pointless for someone to post, then why are you still posting here?
Already stated. Selective reading and comprehension showing, hmm.
I read your link. I have read it before. I chose not to participate in that thread. She was already spamming. As mentioned in that thread.
Why don't you link to something worthwhile that LL posted. If you can....
-- End conversation (withLL@lter.ego), March 24, 2000.
LLOne of the two reasons I pounded TB was to stop the flow of mis/b>/b>information there.
Why not just post with evidence countering the mis-information? Why spamming?
If you had come forth with actual proof instead of just spamming, it would have been quite different. There were others that brought evidence that contradicted what was being said. I know. I read it. I even posted some of it. No one flamed me, or deleted me.
Perhaps it was your approach.
Anyway you look at it, you were an idiot. Then and now.
-- I think (you're@n.idiot), March 24, 2000.
End of conversation,
I was NOT spamming at that point in time. Spamming is repeating the same thing over and over again. The only thing I said repeatedly in that thread was, "When I said, "the only thing Im going to worry about are the people in Y2K forums planning on"... I wasn't referring to ALL forum members, just those PLANNING ON doing despicable things."
I said something similar to that a number of times, because some people JUST COULDN'T GET IT.
If you're trying to say THAT disrupted your life and made people leave.....you don't have much of a life.
Furthermore, I said in that thread, "It is amazing how some people will defend their preconceived beliefs by synthesizing only the material that justifies their point of view. [snip] I suspect you will never hear what anyone else says."
Those words are as true today as they were back then.
P.S. I've already stated my reasons for why I, and others, were banned and not Flint, Hoff, and Decker. I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life repeating myself.
You people are frustating me to death!
~*~
-- Laura (Ladylogic@...), March 24, 2000.
That is my view of their departure. Which was substantiated by a few I caught up with elsewhere later.Yes, of course, you caught up with these mysterious individuals in another venue which is equally mysterious. Gee, with such concrete evidence as that, it's just obvious why they left. LOL!
So, you know of no one that left the forum at the times of her spamming.
Correct.
And you know of no one that left the forum never to return.
No one who left due to her spamming, no.
You want me to give names [ie., handles?] and explain their motivations.
Well, only because I actually require some sort of evidence to back up your baseless arguments.
Nope. LOL If any want to explain themselves to you, they can do it themselves.
Then your argument remains baseless.
I said:
If "troll like behaviour" is a reason for it being pointless for someone to post, then why are you still posting here?
You responded:
Already stated. Selective reading and comprehension showing, hmm.
Well, then if it was already stated, you should be able to point out where you already stated it then, shouldn't you? Ahh, but then we have that problem with you providing any evidence for your ridiculous and baseless arguments. Bummer!!
I read your link. I have read it before. I chose not to participate in that thread. She was already spamming. As mentioned in that thread.
Only one person in that entire thread used the term "spamming", which makes sense since she didn't start spamming until she was globally deleted. Otherwise, why would the thread still be there if she was already spamming? Talk about revisionist history!!
Why don't you link to something worthwhile that LL posted. If you can....
I already did. You've made it clear that you find nothing that she says to be "worthwhile" so providing any more links would be pointless. You've chosen to live in your little dream world where baseless accusations reign and actual evidence is derided and ridiculed. You must really miss the good old days of TB2000. LOL.
-- (hmm@hmm.hmm), March 24, 2000.
LL is nuts.'nuff said.
-- concise (reporting@this.place), March 24, 2000.