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Easily the strangest ad I have ever come across, this product supposedly allows you to monitor your dreams. Silly idea, or potential Aeon episode? You decide...
-- Paul D. Gilbreath (firstname.lastname@example.org), April 09, 2000
The "dream machine" isn't really silly at all. Lucid dreaming refers to the ability to realize that you're dreaming while you are still dreaming. You can therefore do essentially anything that you want. The Nova Dreamer is a device that senses when you enter REM sleep (when you have the most dreams) and then it will flash a bright light, or play a sound, or whatever. In the dream the light or sound will appear, and you will remember that you were supposed to be watching for that, and you will thus realize that you are dreaming.
-- John McDevitt (JuntMonkey@aol.com), April 09, 2000.
Yes, I know what lucid dreaming is, but I thought it had to occur naturally. I had a lucid moment two nights ago. If the "Nova Dreamer" works it would be cool, but it's not as simple as flashing a light, you have to press a reality check button, on your own helmet, while INSIDE your dream, to become lucid (well that's what they say). Now, I've had some pretty crazy dreams, but I never saw myself dreaming, let alone walked up and touched my own face. I dunno, maybe I just lack imagination.
-- Paul D. Gilbreath (email@example.com), April 10, 2000.
I have had lucid dreams, I have repeated ones where in I try to fly deliberately, (flying in a dream is symbolic for sucess,) the funny thing is I consciously fly, but I can never get off the ground by more than 2 feet, and I'm being chased. Helpful.
-- Barb e. (Suesuesbeo@aol.com), April 10, 2000.
Paul I like your hole "Dream Machine" thought...sounds like a potential aeon flux episode....i know that chung can twist it up into something extraordinary...give you much to think about..like is aeon really in a dream or is she awake...heh i like it....
Barb i often to have dreams about flying.....but i don't have much success. huh maybe i will in time..:o)
-- Lady Morgan (Aeonfluxfan1@Aol.com), April 10, 2000.
You ever have that lucid dream where you have magical powers, like you can skate around inside walls, and find mystical doorways under merry-go-rounds, and animals will let you ride on their backs, but as the dream goes on you start to lose your powers? I HATE that.
-- Frostbite (firstname.lastname@example.org), April 12, 2000.
-- Lady Morgan (Aeonfluxfan1@Aol.com), April 12, 2000.
Speaking of dreaming... my dad's a sleepwalker. The other night he says he was in a dreamstate, but could 'see' everything in the room while still asleep, and then slowly walked over to a door which in his dream was open but in reality was closed. *Crash.*
-- eskimonkey (email@example.com), May 02, 2000.
You know something? I'm not that fond of lucid dreams. Usually, when I become aware of my dream state, the spell is broken and my alternate reality loses it's appeal. Besides, there's a lot of insight that can be gained from a totally convincing dream, as opposed to selfishly fulfilling your fantasies in a "dream world", knawmean?
-- Paul D. Gilbreath (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 03, 2000.
The few lucid dreams I've had I never broke free of unconscious dreaming, my emotions always caused the dream to be a rehash of my fears. I also couldn't keep up the awareness of the dream state. It was more like lucid moments. I would like to control the dream to see what it would be like to have the vividness of a dream but selective as to content. For example my cat died last year, I keep deliberately dreaming of her to again hold her, see her, and I've done that several times. It gives me a lot of relief, I really loved my cat.
-- Barb e. (Suesuesbeo@aol.com), May 04, 2000.
And to Lady Morgan I have to say if you fly in your dreams than I believe you must have good self esteem. You probably already are successful in things, or can be.
-- Barb e. (Suesuesbeo@aol.com), May 04, 2000.
Wow, this is getting deep (I kid, you're all beautiful people).
-- Paul D. Gilbreath (email@example.com), May 05, 2000.
Hi Paul, I know this is a bit late, but I`ve just found your post today. My name is kev and I run the site you found the Nova Dreamer ad on. The Nova Dreamer does work without you having to press the 'reality check' button, this is only for if there is doubt you are asleep. Whilst asleep the night when I first read about the Nova Dreamer, I was walking down a street with flashing neon lights in the shop windows. Remembering this as a trigger, I went Lucid......And I was`nt even wearing a Nova Dreamer!! This shows how the trigger can work. Use it often and you get more lucidity! For an introduction to Lucid dreaming, see http://www.electronparadox.com/lucid_dreaming.htm Regards KevH
-- kev houldsworth (Kev@music99.freeserve.co.uk), October 22, 2000.
I'm sure it works just fine... you have to understand, I'm a very opinionated person (with a tendency to shoot my mouth off), and therefore, what I say should be taken with a grain of salt.
Now, about this dream thing... got any more examples for us?
-- Paul (firstname.lastname@example.org), October 28, 2000.
I've become a avid lucid dreamer since 1992 after reading the Book called "Would Buddah Wear a Walkman".The book was primarily about mind machines and wellness tools for the body. But there was a small section with Dr. Stephen LaBerge about Lucid Dreams. I was intrigued and read on....! That night..I had my first lucid dream. The inventor of the Nova Dreamer, Dr. Stephen LeBerge, who has basically brought the study of Lucid Dreaming where it is today (http://www.lucidity.com/index.html), (a decade of work behind the device) patiently and carefully developed this device. You can go months without lucid dreaming, this device would easily get you back on schedule. If everytime you checked your reality (testing the button)waking or sleeping, you would eventually catch that "Hey..I must be dreaming.." Lucid dreams are a world you can do anything you want, go anywhere, change the laws of physics and even fly. This device has had great success for new and old lucid dreamers! All I can say is..I'm there, $275 bones..not too terrible for such a great experience! Be patient..theres a new version of the Nova Dreamer out Fall 2003. http://www.lucidity.com/novadreamer.html
-- Pizo Meyer (email@example.com), May 28, 2003.
I must admit that my sleeping states are getting interesting: Does anyone else fall asleep while listening to clearly articulated talking and singing - I'm not exageratting, I listen very keenly to these words even though their coming from my head, its like other people are around me, and I aint asleep, in fact it keeps me awake.
-- Sam (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 29, 2003.
Can i get some help? I plan to Buy the Nova Dreamer and I just want to know when I become Lucid, how do I switch to astral flight where I can see my own body sleeping and everything around me.
-- Phil (Solidsnakes1088@aol.com), September 22, 2003.
Whoa I just had the most intense, sleep polarisis thing ever! I was consciously falling to sleep, actively noticing components of my brain fade out, then sensing that my room was full of people, to the point that I had to wake up and see for sure. When I closed my eyes they came right back, chattering away, at some point someone started clapping very rapidly in front of my face, I just couldnt keep from opening my eyes, and it stopped, but when I closed them they were back whithin seconds. Eventually I closed my eyes half way, so I could still see, and continued to relax in the same way, my brain still went ahead with its back to sleep function and the clapping started up again. It was bizzare lying their with my eyes open lstening to a loud clapping sound occurring out of what seem like thin air, right in front of my face.
-- Sam (email@example.com), September 22, 2003.