What is the oldest and second oldest bar in San Francisco?

-- Steve (smrm3@pacbell.net), November 27, 2000

Answers

A good start in looking up bars in San Francisco is Jame Chamberlin's "Saloons of San Francisco"

Jack's our oldest restaurant and Mayes Oyster our second oldest and the Old Clam House (thiurd or fourth) all had a bar and served food.

for bar's that did not serve food, probably the oldest is the Frsno Hotel at 1232 Grant which is now known as the Saloon.

Good luck on your research.

-- KURT IVERSEN (IVERSENK@AOL.COM), December 13, 2000.

The Saloon in North Beach (Green & Fresno) is the oldest. The second oldest is the Little Shamrock on Lincoln near 9th.

-- brent robertson (brentrobertson@usa.net), April 05, 2001.

Steve,

Here are some links that mention old S.F. bars and their histories:

http://www.templebar.org/history.html http://www.plumpjack.com/pjbalboa/history.html http://www.sfbrewing.com/history/history.html http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist6/midway.html http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist9/bcoast.html (this one lists establishment names, owners and addresses)

Hope that they help.

Thomas

-- Thomas Harrison (tennthomas@yahoo.com), August 10, 2001.