suppressed technologies

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One of the cool things about my job is I get to listen to the radio alot while driving. Anyway I was listening to NPR. Juan Williams was interviewing this guy who knew this big time inventor type. Inventor was kinda reclusive and a private kinda guy with a social conscience. He invented IV pumps, the stints used in heart surgery etc. Most recently and coming to the market within a year or so is a 4wd wheelchair that climbs stairs etc, named Eyebot. The real focus of the program tho was a new invention he's been working on, code named Ginger. Steve Jobs, the CEO of Amazon.com and another dot com millionaire have invested heavily in it. Their comments "It'll be bigger than the internet." Its fairly hush-hush but I guess its fairly certain that its in the transportation field. There was also mention of a sterling engine.

There was alot of speculation about what it really is but they're keeping their hand close to the chest. The inventor is supposed to be really brilliant so the expectations are high that it will be a revolutionary development. I'm wondering whose ox its gonna gore and if it will ever reach the market.

While on this subject, I remember hearing about very high mileage carborators that some how escaped Detroit but mysteriously never reached the market.

And how about the Rife machine? Well documented to have CURED cancer under a closely watched clinical trial. Read Barry Lynes book "THE CANCER CURE THAT WORKED; 50 yrs of suppression" Lotsa press and favorable peer review, suddenly attacked by the FDA, the pharmaceutical companies, and the AMA.

Any more suppressed technologies?

-- john leake (natlivent@pcpros.net), January 24, 2001

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I SEEN THIS ON A INTERNET NEWS SIGHT WEEKS AGO. IT'S A MOTRIZED UNICYCLE SORT OF. THEY HAD A DRAWING OF IT. ONE WHEEL THE SIZE OF A WHEELBARROW WHEEL. WITH A PACE FOR YOUR FEET ON EACH SIDE AND A HANDLE BAR SET UP LIKE A POGO STICK. SORTA LIKE WHATS IN B.C. COMIC STRIP W/HANDLE BAR SUPPOSE TO REACH 60 M.P.H. AND NEVER TIP OVER. IT DIDN'T GIVE ANY INFO ON WHAT POWERED IT.OR WHAT FUEL SUPPY IT USED

-- (crazyswimmer1821@yahoo.com), January 24, 2001.

Very soon three faceless men will drive up in a blue sedan,(which bears unremberable licence plates). They will leave but the next day the workshop/lab/computer harddisk will be bare!

-- john hill (john@cnd.co.nz), January 24, 2001.

Hi John, wonder what in the world "Ginger" could be? Got my curiosity now. Saw on local tv the other day, where an inventor is working on a light bulb that last 50 years and uses alot less electricity. Same theory as they use in traffic lights, so they have the technology, just have to adapt it to home use. I love inventions and have great respect for inventors. They're always thinking out of the norm! Will be watching for news on "Ginger".

-- Annie (mistletoe@earthlink.net), January 24, 2001.

Codename Ginger? Maybe the inventor is a big fan of "Gilligan's Island".Wonder what the Skipper is?

Supressed tech-how about when a bigger company buys a smaller one out, bc the smaller one has a better mousetrap.Not to get the rights to use the mousetrap, but to bury the competition.

Nick was researching an aquaculture system for a cottage industry at his institution and had run across an interesting one.By the time he'd researched it out thoroughly,and decided that company had the best idea,the company was bought out by a larger aquaculture company, and the system,of course, now is no longer available.Free enterprise.

Solar tech I alsoconsider a suppressed field.If money and research had be redirected,we'd be further along with better and cheaper technology in this area.

That's it from me this morning.

-- sharon wt (wildflower@ekyol.com), January 24, 2001.


Tesla. He would appear to me to have been the most suppressed...well, Tucker and Rife as well. How bout the carbs that run on water? I read an article years ago about a guy named Joe in Australia that drove his car all over the continent with only water as the fuel. Now several colleges are working didligently on the hydrogen engine and finding that it does work, but they are having trouble convincing people. Do a google search on it and you'd be surprised at the number of articles.

Also in the cancer department, check out a book called "World without Cancer", they have it at Amazon. It details specifically the cover ups of the AMA and the FDA regarding cancer as a vitamin deficiency. I haven't finished it yet, but it sure is powerful.

Aids. Man, there is a lot of money in researching Aids. Too bad that the condition for getting a grant to do so requires that accept the premise that the HIV+ must be coefficient and you can't look in any other direction. Aids Inc by John Rappaport is a good book on that stuff. I don't know where you can get it though.

How about detrimental things in our water supply? Or the foisting of wrong information on people, in this country at least, because of lobbyist powers. Like the margarine lobby....black comedy.

-- Doreen (animalwaitress@excite.com), January 24, 2001.



Hi John,

Well there was the guy from Japan that had flexible solar cells "cheap". He was escorted out of the US and his invention never made it to US markets.

A inventor in Australia invented a gyro/forced air motorcycle and platform. The bike couldn't be turned over and needed no tires. 3 months after showing it at a US inventors show he was murdered. Not that I'm saying that "big business" would do such a thing, it was still very unfortunate.

The "POUGH" carburator works. It is basically a scaled down version of a steam chamber off the old submarines. Had a friend whom made one. Drawback 56 machine hours and a lot of rework on engine. BUT you do get 75 mpg. And thats on a big 4 barrel V8 351 Windsor.

Tesla work has always been supressed. Why would the utilities companies want us to get FREE electricity? Or time travel? or any of the other "WoW" technologies that Tesla invented.

I love technology. If the powers that be would let people of a countryside mentality run their special ops we'd have a cure for Diabetes, Cancer, Aids and the common cold. Our vehicles would float and the asphalt could be stripped and grass resown, Space would be a place we work & play. (wouldn't that give the inner city kids something to shoot for instead of drugs) Now we know why they (anyone that dose not understand the "off the sidewalks" ideals) say we are an alternative lifestyle.

-- Kenneth in N.C. (wizardsplace13@hotmail.com), January 24, 2001.


Television was a supressed technology. Invented in the 20s, released to the public in the 40s to allow radio its run. The true inventor of the electron transmision gun tv that was credited to Philco, didn't get a dime. Shafted out of the patent during the war.

-- Jay Blair in N. AL (jayblair678@yahoo.com), January 24, 2001.

Hi John! Ever read Buckminster Fuller? The Leonardo DiVinci Of our time and how many know of his wonders? His whole life was a cover up!!....Kirk

-- Kirk Davis (kirkay@yahoo.com), January 24, 2001.

Kirk, Bucky was one cool guy. I want one of his Dymaxion Cars. The first (I think) was built in 1933. It was "aerodynamically streamlined and three wheeled...This eleven-passenger car was capable of speeds o over one hundred miles per hour using a standard v-8 90 hp rear mounted engine. It was extremely manueverable, travelling over plowed fields and other rough terrain with ease...A later version, developed for Kaiser in 1945, and subsequently improved, was a design which used three 15-25hp engines mounted as detachable units with wheel and drive. After the vehicle started, only one engine needed to be used, giving a running average of 40-50 miles per gallon."

Unfortunately, there was a brutal crash between a Dymaxion and a "stock" American car in front of the World's Fair (in Chicago, just after WWII, if memory serves) Some people were killed, and the press (Citizen Kane :) effectively destroyed the Dymaxion's reputation. Guess which newspaper mogul also owned large quantities of stock in GM?

Fascinating autobiography of Bucky, if you can find a copy: R. Buckminster Fuller, By John McHale, George Braziller, New York, 1962.

Speaking of suppressed technologies, have any of you folks heard of "Buckminster Fullerine"? (affectionately nicknamed "Bucky Balls" It's a fairly recently discovered structure of pure carbon, which resembles little geodesic domes. Previous to this invention/discovery at Rice University, Carbon was only known to have two forms: graphite and diamond.

I won't go into Bucky Balls' many amazing characteristics, but one interesting potential of interest to homesteaders would be a transparent/translucent form which could be used as window glass, but has the insulative value of a wall full of fiberglass insulation.

There is a standing offer from the big research outfit in Palo Alto, Calif, I think it is (help me out here, someone). I can't think of the name--another senior moment. Anyhow, this outfit is looking for a company to come along and manufacture some buckyballs products in cooperation with this outfit.

Dang, it's right on the tip of my tongue, too! Ah! Laurence Livermore. So maybe it's in Livermore?

If you're interested in this, do a search for Bucky Balls. I don't guess it's really totally suppressed, just hasn't gotten enough funding to be commercialized, maybe.

JOJ

-- jumpoffjoe (jumpoff@echoweb.net), January 25, 2001.


I,too, am interested in the technology and how it can improve our lives and the fact that these successes seem to disappear. But what really struck me here when I was reading this thread is that we seem to have a fatalistic attitude that we cannot control that these things happen. Yet, the tool to prevent them is under our very fingertips. The computer. We should all make an effort to publicize any of these inventions we hear about and then those of us that can use them, step up to the plate and buy them. The only thing that really prevents a good invention from gettng somewhere is lack of capital. Buying these products from fledgling companies will help them. If we publicize the success all over the internet, more people will buy and we can have an underground market that shuts out the big guys that want to kill the invention. An example is the book that someone mentioned about vitamins and cancer. I had never heard of it but now that I have, I plan to get a copy. I have always intuitively felt that cancer was about nutrition and what we take into our bodies and avoiding it means caution about what we consume whether it is though breathing or eating. That is why I don't drink chlorinate/flouridated water and I eat organically grown food and I am trying to find a source for organic meat that is close by me. Incidentally, I think I have found one and thanks to everyone that has helped me in that search.

But my point is that we have to stop playing the role of the victim. We need to take action to stop the big guys from taking away these inventions. We do so by buying them.

-- Colleen (pyramidgreatdanes@erols.com), January 29, 2001.



In 1997 during the Permaculture Design course I attended, the teacher, Bill Mollison, related that during the early part of the 1900's a quite common technology was compressed air powered machines, including automobiles. The compressed air was manufactured by a device called a trompe, which is a solid metal cone with many fine tubes running through it to the bottom. Water is forced through the tubes creating tiny air bubbles which are then (somehow,.. it was not clear to me how) extracted and contained in a pressurized tank. The really cool (no pun intended) thing about the automobiles is that the only exhaust is cold air, which was retained in the trunk of the car to act as a type of refrigerator. He claimed to have salvaged one book on the subject, but said that research at the libraries revealed that although no books were available on the subject, there were still plenty of entries on the little index card system that was used before the adoption of computer-based organization of libraries. Seems the "men in black" who presumably confiscated the books did not quite finish the job. By the way the water being forced through the tubes was supposed to have been powered by gravity, making the energy free, if such a thing could actually work. There was not a clear explanation of how the water at the bottom of the trompe got back up to the top to start the whole cycle over again.

-- John Fritz (aeon30@hotmail.com), January 30, 2001.

Hasn't anyone heard of the N effect discovered by JPL in the late 80's? Guess not. Hmmmnnnn...

-- (KratierHolz@juno.com), September 10, 2001.

I seam to rcall a car bieing built in the 40s which had far superior mileage for the time. Unfortunely, it was bought out and destroyed by an esablished compony. I guess if cars users buy more gas it's just that much more cash in the economy. Doesn anyone remember the name of the car? I have been searching for information online but can't do any better than a vague search with the vague information I have.

-- Mael Duin (magnamaduin@mac.com), November 16, 2001.

When I was in school, I read about someone who took a VW bug, turned the engine on its side, put airplane tires on it (I guess for higher air pressure), took the roof, windshield, rear glass and fenders off, and did a couple of other things that I can't remember (probably removing a lot of extraneous things, like the windows, window cranks, etc.), and got nearly 100 miles to the gallon. Now just try to drive a modified vehicle like that down the street today--you'd get pulled over for being illegal. So why are motorcycles legal?

Just a thought.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), November 16, 2001.


Anyone has questions about specific technologies, send me a note. In general(after working in the invention business for a few years), I have found that most of the 'suppressed' technologies actually had fatal flaws and were never brought into development because of these flaws. (e.g. flexible solar cells are limited in power due to photoelectric requirement of a regular arrangement of atoms (a crystal). Amorphous cells fell behind standard cell development in efficiency quite quickly. They are still out there, I think Sanyo is the owner of the patents.) The best place to find 'suppressed' discussions will be in the most moneyed technologies: energy, water, food, etc. For energy stuff, check out www.infinite-energy.com and see what is really going on with Cold Fusion and others. (Yes, it is real, just not developed yet.) Television was not suppressed, it was actually invented in the 1800's, but it was just a pipe dream until the tube technology caught up with it. So, the original patents just expired, as they often do on dreamers.

-- Dan (dconine@dotnet.com), November 20, 2001.


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