PBS Program - March 26 - Exposure to Chemicals

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This was passed on to me in a gang e-mail and I thought it was worth passing on:

This looks worth watching. Now we have to go borrow someone's tv! Note the website by the Center for Disease Control website on chemicals about 3/4 of the way through this series of press releases and articles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Yane" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: PBS Investigative report

> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nature's Country Store" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:36 AM > Subject: Vitally Important - Please forward > > > > On March 26, 2001, PBS will air a groundbreaking investigative report, > > Trade Secrets, on the chemical industry by Bill Moyers. Moyers was > > compelled to put together this expose´ after seeing some of the chemical > > industry's secret documents related to a wrongful death and conspiracy > suit > > against dozens of chemical companies. > > > > This program has vitally important information for every person on this > > planet. For years, we have been lied to by the chemical companies. They > > have gotten wealthy selling us chemicals that are now showing up in the > > fatty cells of every person on this planet. These same chemicals are > > responsible for what is being called the "dumbing down of Americans" - the > > fact that IQs have been consistently dropping over the last 40 years. > These > > chemicals are also responsible for the alarmingly increasing incidences of > > ADHD which is causing a whole generation to be drugged with > > Ritalin. Researchers are also finding connections between these > > synthetically created chemicals that permeate our world and cancer, > > Parkinson's, seizure disorder, and a host of other diseases that have > > become alarmingly prevalent. > > > > If you are concerned about your future, your children and/or > > grandchildren's future, and the future of this planet, please watch this > > program and send this email on to everyone you know. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The Chemical Papers: Secrets of the Chemical Industry Exposed > > > > Don Hazen, AlterNet > > March 15, 2001 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bill Moyers TV special to reveal how the public was kept in the dark about > > the dangers of toxic chemicals. > > > > Every powerful story about fighting for truth and justice has its heroes. > > This story, a tale of the secrets and lies behind America's chemical > > industry, is no exception. > > > > Like Erin Brockovich, the paralegal-turned-movie icon who fought against > > toxic polluters in California, Elaine Ross was determined to uncover the > > truth. Ross wanted to know what had killed her husband, a chemical plant > > worker in the bayous of Louisiana, at the untimely age of 46. She teamed > up > > with crusading lawyer William "Billy" Baggett, Jr, the son of a famous > > Southern litigator, and together they have become central figures in a > > David-and-Goliath battle to protect the health of all Americans, > especially > > workers. > > > > Now, in the latest chapter of the story, a team led by Bill Moyers has > > created a PBS special report called "Trade Secrets" that will air on > Monday > > evening, March 26. The special, based on a secret archive of chemical > > industry documents, explores the industry pattern of obfuscating, denying > > and hiding the dangerous effects of chemicals on unsuspecting workers and > > consumers. > > > > At its core, the Moyers show asks a deeply troubling question: With more > > than 75,000 synthetic chemicals having been released into the environment, > > what happens as our bodies absorb them, and how can we protect ourselves? > > As part of the report, Moyers took tests designed to measure the synthetic > > chemcials in his body -- a measurement known as "chemcial body burden." > > Moyers learned that his body contained 31 diffferent types of PCBs, 13 > > different toxins and pesticides such as malathion and DDT. > > > > When it hits the air, the Moyers special is expected to re-energize > veteran > > health activists and medical professionals in their fight against a > growing > > problem -- unregulated and untested chemicals flooding the commercial > > market place. This public heat, coupled with a burgeoning grassroots > > resistance to chemical producers, may set the industry on the defensive > > like never before ... but that's getting ahead of the story. > > > > Legal Battle in the Bayou > > Elaine Ross's husband, Dan, spent 23 years working at the Conoco (later > > Vista) chemical plant in Lake Charles, Louisiana. After being diagnosed > > with brain cancer, according to Jim Morris of the Houston Chronicle, "Dan > > Ross came to believe that he had struck a terrible bargain, forfeiting > > perhaps 30 years of his life through his willingness to work with vinyl > > chloride, used to make one of the world's most common plastics." > > > > "Just before he died [in 1990] he said, 'Mama, they killed me,'" recalled > > Elaine. "I promised him I would never let Vista or the chemical industry > > forget who he was." > > > > And she hasn't. She teamed up with Billy Baggett to file a wrongful death > > suit against Vista. Baggett won a multimillion-dollar settlement for Ross > > in 1994, but she wasn't satisfied with just the money. She knew that her > > husband's death wasn't an isolated incident -- that many other chemical > > plant workers were dead, dying or sick because their employers weren't > > telling them about potential health hazards. And Vista certainly wasn't > the > > only culprit. > > > > So Ross told Baggett to take the fight to the next level. Baggett did, > > suing 30 companies and trade associations including the Chemical > > Manufacturers Association (now called the American Chemistry Council) for > > conspiracy, alleging that they hid and suppressed evidence of vinyl > > chloride-related deaths and diseases. > > > > As a result of the litigation brought on Ross's behalf, Baggett has been > > able to obtain what he says is more than a million previously secret > > industry documents over the past decade. These "Chemical Papers," as they > > are becoming known, chronicled virtually the entire history of the > chemical > > industry, much of it related to vinyl chloride -- minutes of board > > meetings, minutes of committee meetings, consultant reports, and on and > on. > > > > According to Jim Morris of the Chronicle, the documents suggested that > > major chemical manufacturers closed ranks in the late 1950s to contain and > > counteract evidence of vinyl chloride's toxic effects. "They depict a > > framework of dubious science and painstaking public relations, coordinated > > by the industry's main trade association with two dominant themes: Avoid > > disclosure and deny liability." The chemical companies were hiding the > fact > > that they had "subjected at least two generations of workers to excessive > > levels of a potent carcinogen that targets the liver, brain, lungs and > > blood-forming organs." > > > > "Even though they (the chemical companies) may be competitive in some > > spheres, in others they aren't," Baggett told Morris. "They have a mutual > > interest in their own employees not knowing (about health effects), in > > their customers not knowing, in the government not knowing." > > "There was a concerted effort to hide this material," said Dr. David > > Rosner, a professor of public health and history at Columbia University > who > > has reviewed many of the documents as part of a research project. "It's > > clear there was chicanery." > > > > And while the documents show that the industry freely shared health > > information among themselves, "the companies were evasive with their own > > employees and the government," wrote Morris. "They were unwilling to > > disrupt the growing market for polyvinyl chloride (PVC) plastic, used in > > everything from pipe to garden hoses." The whole case and others like it > > "accentuate the problem of occupational cancer, which, by some estimates, > > takes more lives (50,000) each year than AIDS, homicide or suicide, but > > receives far less attention." > > > > "What I hope to achieve, through Billy, is that every man who works in a > > chemical plant is told the truth and tested on a regular basis in the > > proper manner," Elaine Ross told the Chronicle. "I want the chemical > > companies to be accountable for every little detail that they don't tell > > these men." > > In a prepared statement, the Chemical Manufacturers Association called > such > > charges "irresponsible." The group said that it promotes a policy of > > openness among its members. > > > > From Courtroom to Television Set > > Award-winning TV producer Sherry Jones, who got access to the treasure > > trove of chemical company archives, started deeply probing the industry > and > > its secret ways. She brought her findings to Bill Moyers, with whom she > had > > previously worked. > > > > Moyers agreed that the story needed to be told. The result of their > > collaboration is "Trade Secrets," the 90 minute special that will be > > followed by a 30 minute roundtable discussion among industry > > representatives and advocates for public health and environmental justice. > > Coming as it does on Monday night, March 26 -- the night after the Academy > > Awards, where Julia Roberts may very well receive an Oscar for her > > portrayal of Erin Brockovich -- this one-two punch of mass audience > > attention could deal the chemical industry quite a blow. > > > > Meanwhile, the U.S. Center for Disease Control has released its "National > > Report on Human Exposure to Environmental Chemicals" (available at > > www.cdc.gov/nceh/dls/report). The report, based on new technology that > > measures chemcials directly in blood and urine, has found a wide range of > > dangerous chemcials present in most humans. > > > > Citizen activists and health experts have been fighting for decades to > > protect their families from untested and unsafe synthetic chemicals. It > has > > been a difficult battle, due in part to public misconceptions. Almost 80 > > percent of Americans think that the government tests chemicals for safety, > > which is untrue. Aside from chemicals directly added to food or drugs, > > there are no health and safety studies required before a chemical is > > manufactured, sold or used in commercial or retail products. The same is > > true for cosmetic products and the chemicals in them. > > > > So if the government isn't regulating chemical safety, who is? > > Unfortunately, the chemical industry itself. > > > > As health advocates have long complained, this self-regulation simply > isn't > > enough. "For the most part, we rely on chemical companies to vouch for the > > safety of their products," says public health advocate Charlotte Brody, a > > former nurse. "That's like relying on the tobacco industry to assess the > > risk of tobacco." > > > > Take the case of Dursban, Dow Chemical's indoor insecticide product. Even > > after 276 people filed lawsuits claiming that they were poisoned by > > Dursban, Dow didn't reveal information about the product that proved its > > toxicity. When the truth finally came out in 1996, the company was fined a > > miniscule $740,000 by the Feds for withholding information from public > > officials. > > > > Critics have long said that strong government regulations would have > > prevented such fiascoes, and with "Trade Secrets" and the Chemical Papers > > as ammunition, they may be closer to getting their wish than ever before. > > > > Taking the Chemical Industry to Task > > Using the Moyers special as a rallying point, a coalition of grassroots > > groups called "Coming Clean" has bonded together to oppose the chemical > > industry. In early March, dozens of national leaders -- health > > professionals, scientists, activists and media experts -- gathered for a > > weekend retreat in Northern Virginia to plan the elements of this > long-term > > assault. Charlotte Brody, currently Coming Clean's head organizer, > > expressed the anger and outrage behind the meeting. > > "For decades, chemical companies kept secret the hazards of chemicals they > > produce," Brody said. "These chemicals are in our food, our water, the air > > we breathe. Now, they're in all of us. Every child on earth is born with > > these synthetic chemicals in their bodies, and only a small percentage of > > these chemicals have been adequately tested." > > > > Dr. Mark Mitchell, a physician from Hartford, Connecticut and one of the > > leaders of the national effort, insisted that to protect ourselves and our > > children from the harm of toxic chemicals, "We must phase out all > dangerous > > chemicals over the next 10 years, beginning with those for which there are > > safer alternatives. And we must stop making the same mistakes, by > > prohibiting the introduction of any new chemicals that pose a threat to > our > > health and our children's health. There also needs to be government action > > to insure the right to know about toxic chemicals, production, use and > test > > results." > > > > As a first step, Coming Clean plans to engage the public with the message > > of "Trade Secrets." All across the country, thousands of events and > viewing > > parties are being organized, timed to coincide with the Moyers show. The > > events harken back to the campaign surrounding the 1980s nuclear holocaust > > film, "The Day After," which galvanized a vanguard of anti-nuke activists > > to oppose the arms race. > > > > "The local viewing parties will give people a chance to talk about the > film > > after they see it," says Stacy Malkan, Coming Clean's media coordinator. > > "Rather than going to bed angry, they can discuss the issues with other > > concerned neighbors, and then channel their outrage and ideas into > powerful > > grassroots coalitions." > > > > Momentum around the Moyers special seems to be picking up. The Whole Foods > > supermarket chain has agreed to carry Coming Clean's flyers in every one > of > > their stores, and many email listservs, chat rooms and message boards are > > buzzing about the March 26 show. > > > > While most viewings will happen in private homes, activists in dozens of > > cities -- from Anchorage to Austin to Biddeford, Maine -- are holding > > public viewing events. In Ann Arbor, for example, a public viewing will be > > held in an organic brew pub. In Buffalo, New York, environmental and labor > > leaders will stage a public showing, and will use it as an opportunity to > > recognize three local whistle blowers battling pollution and environmental > > injustice. And in San Francisco, where breast cancer rates are among the > > highest in the country, Mayor Willie Brown, Representative Nancy Pelosi > and > > Senator Barbara Boxer will all watch the show at the public library. > > > > Eventually, the coalition hopes to harness the public outcry to push for > > government regulations and class action suits against the chemical giants. > > Some organizers are hoping that Congress finally wakes up and focuses a > > spotlight on the chemical industry, while others are calling for corporate > > accountability. > > > > "The American people deserve to know what chemical executives knew and > when > > they knew it," said Gary Cohen, a leader of the Boston-based Environmental > > Health Fund and co-coordinator of the group Health Care Without Harm. > > > > The Chemical Industry Backlash > > In all likelihood, the chemical industry will trudge out familiar > responses > > to "Trade Secrets." They will bring in experts to argue the scientific > > validity of chemical poisoning. They will say, for example, that doses are > > so low that animals would have to drink 50,000 bathtubs of contaminated > > water to suffer any harm. But health professionals counter that small > doses > > can have measurable impact in humans, and that people are often more > > sensitive to toxic substances than test animals. Furthermore, no tests > have > > been done on the cumulative, long term effects of small doses. > > The industry also likes to tell the public that it has changed since the > > 50's, 60's and '70s, when chemical companies stonewalled every request for > > information or hint of danger. Of course, major incidents like the debacle > > over Dursban undermine that claim. Thus, despite millions of dollars of > > effort over the years, the public ranks the industry next to last in terms > > of public confidence (trailing only the tobacco industry). > > > > So the chemical industry has essentially abandoned it's efforts to change > > public opinion. As in most industries with health and safety issues, the > > chemical giants focus instead directly on Congress, where lobbying and > > campaign contributions are often more effective ways to wage their battle. > > Their goal is a simple one: to make sure that no laws would ever require > > them to perform health and safety testing for the compounds they produce. > > > > Needless to say, they have been totally successful thus far. But the time > > may be ripe for change. Polls show public sentiment is increasingly > > anti-corporate. According to a recent Business Week poll, 82 percent of > the > > public feels that corporations wield too much power. According to a recent > > Roper poll, half the population feels that environmental regulations > > haven't gone far enough. > > With the chemical industry at the bottom of the public's "good corporate > > citizen" list, a critical mass of citizens may soon come together to fight > > back. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40356-2001Mar21.html > > Moyers's Exclusive Report: Chemical Industry Left Out > > > > By Howard Kurtz > > Washington Post Staff Writer > > > > Thursday, March 22, 2001; Page C01 > > > > Bill Moyers, the dogged crusader of public television, is about to air a > > typically tough exposé on the chemical industry. > > > > But unlike the most routine news story, the 90-minute documentary includes > > not a single comment from the industry under fire. Instead, Moyers has > > invited two industry officials to play defense in a panel discussion after > > the program. > > > > "We're looking at this as Bill Moyers, media icon, statesman: Why isn't he > > including us in a story that's going to have a big impact on us?" said > Terry > > Yosie, vice president of the American Chemical Council. "We just want a > fair > > shake." > > > > But Moyers, noting that his report is based on hundreds of thousands of > pages > > of industry documents, said yesterday: "It's not that kind of story. We > > designed the special to include them from the beginning, but in the > half-hour > > that follows the reportage. These documents exist. They are fact. They are > > not a matter of opinion or conjecture. We wanted to lay the record down, > and > > then we want the industry to respond to the whole." > > > > Yosie and his colleagues have peppered Moyers and PBS with letters > > complaining about their exclusion in an effort to change the "Trade > Secrets" > > documentary before it airs Monday night. (The letters are posted on a Web > > site called AboutTradeSecrets.org.) Yosie spoke to Moyers yesterday after > a > > meeting earlier this month, but the veteran newsman and onetime Lyndon > > Johnson aide insisted there was no need for an on-camera interview. > > > > Despite the exclusion, Yosie said he and another industry official would > join > > PBS's taped panel discussion. "He's trying to make a comparison between > our > > industry and the tobacco industry -- that we're secretive, deceptive, > > covering up information," Yosie said. "If we don't show up, that's going > to > > reinforce a message he's trying to peddle that we're tobacco-like. We > think > > we can hold our own." > > > > The program is likely to cause a stir, for there is no question that > Moyers > > has some highly damaging evidence. "It will open the eyes of a lot of > people > > in this country," he said. > > > > The documentary, which includes interviews with people affected by vinyl > > chloride, draws on an archive of "secret" and "confidential" documents > > unearthed in a lawsuit by the widow of a Louisiana chemical worker. > > A 1959 memo to B.F. Goodrich, for example, says vinyl chloride "is going > to > > produce rather appreciable injury when inhaled seven hours a day, five > days a > > week for an extended period." > > > > A 1966 Goodrich memo says "there is no question but that skin lesions, > > absorption of bone of the terminal joints of the hands and circulatory > > changes can occur in workers associated with the polymerization of PVC." > > "In other words, they knew vinyl chloride could cause the bone in the > hands > > of their workers to dissolve," Moyers says on the show. > > > > Ironically, the memo says of company officials: "They particularly want to > > avoid exposés like Silent Spring or Unsafe at Any Speed." Another > document, a > > 1973 Ethyl Corp. memo, says after rat tests that "the results certainly > > indicate a positive carcinogenic effect." > > > > Should industry officials have been allowed to weigh in? "Sure, we could > have > > interviewed them and cut them down to fit my notion of what I wanted," > Moyers > > said. "But that would have been unfair." > > > > In a letter last week to PBS President Pat Mitchell, Frederick Webber, > > president of the ACC, said: "We fail to see how his investigative report > will > > be fair, accurate, balanced or complete.It should tell more than one side > of > > a story." > > > > Yosie acknowledged that "this industry, like a lot of industries, has > learned > > a lot from past performance," but cautioned against "just picking out one > > segment of time and saying it's representative of today." Besides, he > said, > > "our concern about the records he has is that many of them have been given > to > > him by plaintiffs' lawyers who represent a self-interested point of view." > > > > But Moyers, who will plug the show in a National Press Club speech today, > is > > comfortable with his approach. "If I had given it to them too far in > advance, > > they would have tried to do what industry has always done" -- launch a > > preemptive strike against the broadcast. "The documents are the story, not > > the debate about the documents." > > > > > > © 2001 The Washington Post Company



-- Ken S. in WC TN (scharabo@aol.com), March 23, 2001

Answers

People like me learned the hard way that this stuff is true. It's genetics whether you feel the effects readily or not. My whole family has always had reactions but we never knew why until recently. Sometimes I'll be feeling great then go into a store that happens to be regluing a loose tile then I'm sick for days.

Through determination, I was able to get my son's school to use green cleaners. They all think I'm nuts but I'm sure that other children benifited from this but no one realizes the reason.

-- Dee (gdgtur@goes.com), March 23, 2001.


In the 70's PBS had alot of information of the effects of chemicals on people.Everything from farm chemicals to industry.If you look at alot of their sponsers now,you can see they are chemical companies.In order to survive the high cost of TV and radio airing,they have compromised greatly.They sold out.I'm surprised they are going back to chemial type programs.I guess ratings are low.They also wree editing out things they didn't want the public to hear in broadcasted interviews with people talking about certain subjects,Pressured from the companies who support them.If only the public supported them with private donations,they wouldn't have sold out to the chemical companies,and they'd be free to broadcast uncensored material

-- Steve (a12goat@cs.com), March 24, 2001.

As many of you know, I have the same as Dee and others, chemical poisoning, environmental illness, or multiple chemical sensitivies, whatever you want to call it, I'm toxic. Makes for some miserable days. Just yesterday I went to Jay C store and almost passed out, I wasn't in there very long, but whatever was in there just about got me. I was sick the rest of the day. Wal-Mart is worse, and I can't even go in Family Dollar or Dollar General anymore at all not that that's a terrible thing in itself, but....

My problem probably started with childhood vaccinations. I got a book about that this week, but loaned it to someone who either has to get the shots or sign a waiver to be a EMT.

The thing I've found that helps me the most is exercise. Aerobic mostly. I feel so much better after a workout. But of course that doesn't last very long. First time back to a store, or if I eat something with perservatives, or go to somebody's house with scented candles, or potporri, or get around perfume, I've had it. The list of allergans is extrememly long. The symptoms list is rather long too.

-- Cindy (SE In) (atilrthehony_1@yahoo.com), March 24, 2001.


I think here and now would be a good time and place for anyone with information on how/where to purchase "green cleaners" to step forward and post the information. Just maybe it would be the kick-in-the- pants that some of us need to get us to "de-chemicalize" our homes even in the smallest degree. I just ordered a book through the mail that tells you what types of natural ingredients you can mix yourself to use as cleansers/cleaners as opposed to chemical ones. (Can't find the paperwork on the book right now so I don't remember the name of it. But I'll look for it and post info on it later.) This book might not even have chemical issues at the heart of it but rather frugality. But the end results are the same. Save money, don't support the chemical companies, and live healthier.

-- Greenthumbelina (sck8107@aol.com), March 24, 2001.

Greenthumbelina, why not use vinegar, baking soda and salt. That's basically all I use. Use vinegar like windex or 409; baking soda instead of cleansers; salt to clean the oven. We don't have really good furniture so I use a damp rag to dust with or a feather duster. Furniture polish is one of the worst things for me, especially old English and liquid gold.

-- Cindy (SE In) (atilrthehony_1@yahoo.com), March 24, 2001.


I read a gov't report on chemicals a few days ago.It might be of value to the chemical sensitive people out there.It mentioned that a toxic chemical in hand & body soap was in the blood and urine samples of the people who participated in the study.Shampoos also contained the chemical.The body seems to be sponge like and is able to absorb toxins through the skin.Further study in the future is going to be conducted with a greater variety of toxic things that are commonly used.I thought that if the skin is so absorbant using metal tools, touching door knobs,handeling lead sinkers for fishing,ect, might also let heavy metals into the blood. Also a thought I had when I noticed I can smell laundry detergent when I enter a supper market.I wondered how much of the foods,even in the organic produce section was absorbing the chemicals.One store I used to go to kept their bread on the next isle over from the laundry detergent and when I noticed the bread tasted like soap,I decided to buy my bread at a food co-op that only sells a small amount of what others call green cleaning products.I can't smell them so they either don't have enough in the store to matter or they are less toxic?I think everyone is chemically sensitive in a way,but they've learned to ignore the negative effects.Anyone who's smoked cigerettes for a long period of time is proof that the mind can block out the effects of toxins that make us sick.I have first hand proof of this. Bronners Soap seems to be a safer product than alot of soaps out there.It's sold in most natural food stores.It's expensive.

-- Steve (a12goat@cs.com), March 24, 2001.

I had a bad case of pancritiates a while back, Know one could figure out what caused it [ they kept asking me if i drank alot, after three weeks of barly eating I started to feel better, used roundup,24d, ect for 12 years in landscape mant. Wonder if that was my bodys way of detoxing? Cant go near the garden isles at stores as all the chemical smells make me ill.When my son starts 1st grade next year I am going to start working on getting these stores to start to use more earth friendly products.On another note you can get a cleaner at most stores called simple green which is non toxic and biodegradable, there is also a orange cleaning product that works to which is suposed to be safe to.They are finding malathion in mountain lakes far from towns. Once again lets repeat my fav mantra , Only when the last tree has been felled, the last river poisoned, the last fish caught will you recognize that one cannot eat money [ cree]and all the kings horses and all the kings men wont be able to put the earth back togeter again.It has to start some were, lets all start using products which arnt toxic when we can.Every big change starts with one small step.

-- kathy h (ckhart55@earthlink.net), March 24, 2001.

Simple Green makes me sick. Allergic to pine. The Orange Cleaner doesn't work too great but the orange furnature oil was fantastic! I did find a product AMF super cleaner that works really well. I only found it in the N.E.E.D.S. catalog and some more expensive healthy catalogs.

Cindy, I'd like to e-mail you with some hints I have found over the years if you don't mind. For example, if you take baking soda after being exposed to an allergin it will help to cut your reaction. Cool, huh?

-- Dee (gdgtur@goes.com), March 24, 2001.


Looking forward to watching this show. I recently purchased a book about safe, nontoxic cleaners for the home. It's titled "Clean House, Clean Planet" with subtitle of "Clean Your House for Pennies a Day - The Safe, Nontoxic Way" by Karen Logan. I heard about it but couldn't find it at the library so I ended up ordering from Amazon. Mostly her recipes use things like baking soda, white vinegar, club soda and soap. I am looking for more information on using grapefruit seed extract and tea tree oil as germ killers. I've purchased both but don't really know how much to use to get the job done.

-- Mel Carroll in NC (frank.a.carroll@worldnet.att.net), March 26, 2001.

Thanks everybody! But, especially Cindy...

I've made my own cleaners for a long time, but have a special love for liquid gold... Been getting 'sick headaches' for a while and couldn't think of a reason other than being on the computer so much.... Come to find out - usually the first couple days after I have polished the furniture.

I usually clean with a damp rag, too, but once in a while polish with liquid gold instead of homemade... I will have to stop doing that and see if it helps... Never even considered this!!

-- Sue Diederich (willow666@rocketmail.com), March 26, 2001.



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