Say it ain't so...But it is. (NWO thing) : LUSENET : Freedom! self reliance : One Thread

Well the "media" says that it ain't so. But it is. WHAT am I talking about? The United Nations (aka SKUM) now control our federal parks, I live next to a State Park. Just last week I saw a strange vehicle and went to investigate. On its door it had a upside down triangle with the words US PARK in middle and UN Protective Services at bottom. If the UN isn't running the show WHY are there vehicles patrolling the park?

What is really happening is enough to drive honest folks to rebellion.

-- Kenneth in N.C. (, April 10, 2001


I've been hearing that for a while but haven't seen any of the vehicles. I know the former administration kept making references to our parks being international treasures or something to that effect. I wonder when, and if, the American people will ever wake up and stand up and put their collective foot down on this sort of thing. I am beginning to think it won't happen.

-- Green (, April 10, 2001.

It's so. This was discussed on the CS forum last year, if it hasn't been censored. Anyway, I have a friend that says....something about a sign at all national parks saying they're biospheres, that's significant and Clinton gave the parks away...and because when we get a social security # it's estimated what our income will be and loans are made on that and if the U.S. defaults then we belong to them- Russsia, China etc. Now I couldn't put all this together to make sense but if you want to research it, you might find some connection.

-- Cindy (SE In) (, April 10, 2001.

I am pretty sure that it's from EO 12986. International biospheres....beeerother. Global think. If we can't take care of our own backyards, why does anyone think that a massive bureaucratic governmental organization will?

Ken, is there any chance you could keep a camera handy?

-- Dreen (, April 10, 2001.

Already bought a 110. its loaded and in the truck. If I get a pic I'll upload it so ya'll can see it.

-- Kenneth in N.C. (, April 10, 2001.

That would be great. I went out last summer and snapped photos of the local police loving an older Mexican couple into an an unwarranted search by a drug dog. Does anyone else see that kind of thing a lot?

-- Dreen (, April 10, 2001.

Folks we are just seein the tip of the iceberg. We are also just seeing the start of the prophesy about the last days and indeed the tribulation. I don't want to offend anybody on here but the Word tells us in Revelation what will transpire just before and after Jesus Christ comes for His church commonly called the "rapture". Now, if you want something else to think about--what about the metal strips in our currency? Ever look at one? It has the designation of the denomination size and the serial number of that bill on that strip. Scanners are set alongisde highways [mostly interstates now] to scan the passing traffic. If over $3000 is "read" our fearless law will pull you over and confiscate it. Labeled as drug money they can take your entire belongings including the car. Thery is much more I could say but I won't. I knew a person who did and we were friends. Now, something else to think about. Do any of ya'll have those llittle tv dishes like direct tv or dish network? Just suppose somebody wanted to "spy" on ya'll. Don't you thnk a small camera and mike could be inside the receiver? Something to think about , ain't it? I mentioned this awhile ago in the picture page chat. It's knda funny but then again---is it really? I don't want anybody look'n at my old bod as I lay around in the lliv'n room watch'n tv in my undershorts and socks!!!! Now, talk about stress'n out people! Matt.24:44

-- hoot (, April 10, 2001.

Hoot - I knew about the strips in the money (heck, they're even doing it on the new 5's!) but I never heard about the interstate scanner thing. Hubby and I have traveled all across the country with alot more cash than that (don't have much faith in banks) and have never been pulled over in any of about 30 states. I remember hearing about the International Biospheres thing awhile back. I remember it was a magazine article because it had a picture of a wooden sign at the entrance to a park which stated that it was an IB.

"Be very afraid" (can't remember the movie's name!)

-- Lisa (, April 11, 2001.

The local government near me...Austin Tx got a grant from the federal government to put up cameras and super sensitive microphones that can triangulate and pinpoint exactly where a gunshot originates....also they can use your windows as an amplifier and listen to conversations from over 600' away. This was all done under the guise of "saving the children".

In my itty burg, we were the proud recipients of a SWAT team. More Fed money to the police. Not a single person has been in a hostage situation in this town. We've got ranchers and good ole boys galore who would come runnin' with their rifles if there was need of help.Bah. Also, since the town fathers saw fit to re do the roads, they are adding cameras to the intersections and up and down the two main roads.

Hoot, I had an experience when I lived in Ca that was in part what helped to open my eyes. There was a man who put a LARGE sign in his front yard and on the sides of his van decrying all of the spying that was being carried out against him by the federal government. I thought he was wackadoodle, but I was intrigued. I saw him in his van once and spoke to him briefly. He wasn't crazy in the know what I mean. Said some amazing things, but not crazy. Anyway, on my way home from work I passed his house to see a slough of black suburbans there. The next day, his sign was down, his van was gone and the house was up for sale. NO mention in the paper whatsoever. Then the Gulf War and Waco happened, and it helped to make me wwhat I am today!lol. The End Times are here, it just remains to be seen how we go through them.

-- Dreen (, April 11, 2001.

I know that over in Hopkins County, Texas, the local sheriff's department sure does make a lot of "drug" stops on the interstate where they confiscate a big beaucoupe bunch of money, drug money, don't you know, but no one ever goes to trial. EVER. Charges are dismissed as soon as the cash is in hand. I also know that in our little poe dunk town we now have cameras on several intersections along US Highway 271. Ah, the powers that be are really lookin' out for us!

-- Green (, April 11, 2001.

A few years ago, a friend and I happened to be at a red light in a small (pop. 500) town and it was then that we looked up and noticed the cameras. At first, I didn't know what to think. Of course, they use the excuse of "keeping an eye on the teenagers" but then I began noticing cameras EVERYWHERE! I thought I was just gettin' paranoid but they were really everywhere; on the streets, on highway overpasses, on streetlights. Maybe I am gettin' paranoid but then again, paranoia is really just reality fine tuned.

-- Lisa (, April 11, 2001.

OK... Doreen - I APPOLOGIZE. Got to take back some of the stuff I said to the above post.

I knew about the cameras.. Bugged me when it was on the news more than a few years ago that they were going to do it. Also actively opposed the new search and siezure drug laws to no avail (everybody thought I was paranoid THEN.)

I need to go back to Craters and check the signs. I have never heard of the Biosphere stuff. That is a kicker. I DO know that my husband has seen certain 'odd' trucks here at the forest service and out in the woods. We have no Parks nearby, but this state is virtually all National Forest. I haven't seen them, and we are too new here for me to judge, but - it IS my husband... If I can't trust him, who can I???

An interesting note, not overly related to the trucks....

In ALL Federal Forests, Parks, etc. you are not allowed anymore to camp for more than 10 days. After 10 days, you are required not just to move to another area, but must move to another park. There was a guy camped out near our mining claim. Our wonderful Forest person went there and told him to move. We were there and offered to let him move onto our claim, as a mining claim is SUPPOSED to be treated as private property. She told him he wasn't allowed and must leave Boise National Forest.

Annette on the BHM board just posted about strange fish she caught, fishing waters she's been on for more than 25 years. Its an interesting post. I did kind of blast her, though, as she blamed it on EPA STOPPING dumping in the water... maybe she is right?

BTW - HI HOOT!!! Glad to see you here!!!! I've been very intrigued with the Tribulation and Rapture for as long as I can remember... Yes - it DOES give one pause to ponder!

-- Sue Diederich (, April 12, 2001.

OUCH Well the goons were spotted at water plant in the park. A lady tried to take pictures of the vehicle but her camera was confiscated. Locale PD told her that the Park is out of their jurisdiction.

Well I called the Superintendent of Parks. He assured me she would get her camera back an a apology. His excuse was that "These guys are from another country, overthere its ileagle to take pictures of personnel or vehicles".

I have noticed 3 camera's on light poles and a funny looking dish out on I-85 North. With the satellite technology wonder why they blow tax money on such obivious toys?

"Paranoia is total awareness!

-- Kenneth in N.C. (, April 12, 2001.

Oh Ken, you're just making it all up to cause a ruckus, aren't you now?

Time to do some more investigating. Like WHAT country..are they armed? why are they at a STATE park? What about the sovereignty of the State constitution....? Eeegads.

-- Doreen (, April 12, 2001.

Nope Doreen Wish it were a dream. However it is all to real. The lady in question is our local pastors wife. She received her camera via fedex yesterday afternoon, the film was gone otherwise it was ok.

I have a friend that worked in the State Park in South Dakota after 15 incidents with the UN flunkies He quit and moved to Arkansas. Now he and his family are out in no mans land with 3 tents, common sense and a few tools. They hope to build a cabin this summer. The crap with the UN people pushed Roger over the edge. Now he plans to become a total survivalist. This guys got 2 college degrees and is smart as a whip.

What happens when the average Joe wakes up and starts to see what we the few go looking for?

Doreen check the New Department of Interior park rules. Not only can you not camp more than 10 days but you actually have to vacate the park. Read it and give us the Readers Digest Version.


-- Kenneth in N.C. (, April 13, 2001.

Ken, I couldn't find anything on their website about new regs. They say that you can camp 14 days and no more than 30 per year. Where did you hear about the new regs? maybe you can access it from that source?

Glad her camera was okay, but I would be miffed. Bet you wouldn't have guessed that, huh?

-- Doreen (, April 14, 2001.

I was searching google for parks that offered free camping. I followed well over 25 links. I doubt I could get that one page back. I also read it over at CS on a thread there. So I wasn't the only one to see it.

YEP Me and you both would have had words for them. Sarah was just glad to get her Camera back.

I'd like to have one of the "spy" pen ccd cameras. Then I could get video & audio. hehehe Wonder how they would like a daily movie of their transgressions.

Gotta run hear the phone ringing. Might be the gubmerment. LOL

-- Kenneth in N.C. (, April 17, 2001.

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