greenspun.com : LUSENET : Aeon Flux : One Thread

I noticed quite a lot of you analyzed leisure. Most of you analyzed when she moans and dropped the egg. But, have any of you considered that she was going through withdrawl symptoms. Maybe thats why she all of a sudden fell on the cloth thing on the wall.

-- Jon (jon@cmpmail.com), May 19, 2001


withdrawl from what? wasn't this EP supposed to be about abortion?

-- Lady Morgan (AeonFluxFan1@aol.com), May 19, 2001.

Withdrawl, like when a coke addict needs more coke. When they don't have it they go nuts and as soon as they get a little they go back the pleasure mode again. But, Maybe I'm wrong and it is about abortion

-- jon (jon@cmpmail.com), May 20, 2001.

That's a good point. Withdrawl is probably the best explanation i've heard yet. It would also explain the Trevor clone devouring them in his cell/locker. But i don't understand where you getting the idea of abortion from. Does someone want to elaborate on this theory?

-- nick (trnqt666@aol.com), May 21, 2001.

Sexual pleasure which results in an embryo's death. See?

-- Frostbite a.k.a. Frosty the Snow Chick (mbkrooks@bellsouth.net), May 21, 2001.

I can see the argument I suppose, but personally I still don't find anything overtly sexual in "Leisure." When the embryo is tortured i find it very sadistic, and in the same line of thought as the withdrawl theory, more of a coping method. For example, if you stub your toe it lessens the pain if you bite your arm. All the Freudian arguments I've heard in relation to this short do make sense but objectively i still don't see them.

-- nick. (trnqt666@aol.com), May 21, 2001.

Well, if these eggs are like a drug to the humans. Right, then as soon as they have it in their clutches they can't wait to use them. Like when a drug abuser has a drug in their hand after a long time without it, they then...like I guess U can say lose control and use it. In this case, the thought of killing this thing for pleasure over came her, she nearly falls and lands on the cloth thing on the wall. then she plays with the creature. Then back in pleasure mode. In a way getting her fix. Which explains why trevor was all up on that damned egg in the cabinet. He needs more pleasure. She needs pleasure. And when we experience pleasure, we call it, "Leisure"

-- jon (jon@cmpmail.com), May 21, 2001.

By the way, did anyone consider she killed the embryo thing for the same reason when we are children(and sometimes adults) we kill bugs just for pleasure. U know, like when you just step on them even though they were allready no threat. Then u feel all happy cause u squished it. I know its sadistic as well. If u think about it.

-- jon (jon@cmpmail.com), May 21, 2001.

I remember when I first saw Aeon many many years ago, the "torturing the embryo" sequence was what stuck with me the most.

-- Frostbite a.k.a. Frosty the Snow Chick (mbkrooks@bellsouth.net), May 23, 2001.

I pondered the morality of killing insects. I came up with the same thing that I use for every other living thing, which is as long as you eat it or need it some way. I kill blood sucking insects, cause fair is fair and my flesh is sacred.

People think I'm fucking nuts asking them why they killed that bug. Its a bug they reply. You know what that is very sad.

-- Mark (hammerofthehorse@BigPoppaPump.zzn.com), May 24, 2001.

Look at that folks, it turns out leisure is about ABORTION after all. I found an old uh...link on the bottom and P CHUNG explained it all

-- (jon@cmpmail.com), May 28, 2001.

It doesn't NEED to be about abortion... I think it's whatever you personally get out of it that matters most. But I personally do like Peter's explanation, too.

-- Mat Rebholz (matrebholz@earthlink.net), May 31, 2001.

The impression I've always had of "Leisure" was that Aeon ripped the curtain to placate the squigglies with a demonstration of remorse. She couldn't resist the temptation to crack an egg open, but didn't want to do so while the squigglies watched her. She "accidentally" dropped one, showed the squigglies how sorry she was with a demonstration of grief. Her expression was one of pain and sorrow, and the way she ripped the cloth reminded me of the way women in ancient Egypt allegedly tore out their hair to mourn the deaths of their loved ones.

-- Leah Morris (morrea@hotmail.com), July 08, 2002.

Moderation questions? read the FAQ