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If I remember correctly, Universal was waiting to see how Tomb Raider did before moving forward with an Aeon film. Well, Tomb Raider cost $80 million, & only made about 50 so far... So has Universal, in their infinite wisdom, moved on to greener non-gun-wielding-chick pastures, or is there still hope for a movie? Please say there is.
BTW: did anyone here see Tomb Raider? God, that was terrible! Worst movie I've seen all year (And I rented "The Astronaut's Wife" AND "Beowulf" (the Christopher Lambert one) just last week...)
-- Inukko (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 29, 2001
I imagine big-budget Aeon wouldn't be too much better. The production company would either try to clone The Matrix or, more likely, turn it into a pseudo-sci fi Tomb Raider. Which just degrades from the series, plain and simple. Am I right?
Something along the lines of a modestly-budgeted 4th season or animated VHS release is the best thing one could hope for, I think. Both idealistically and realistically!
-- eskimonkey (email@example.com), June 29, 2001.
I would hope that Tomb R. and dAeon would be completely different animals. Hollywood though, they'd cast mel gibson as trevor and danny golver as aeon. Why because the formula works dammit!
-- Pretty Mark (hammerofthehorse@BIgPoppaPump.zzn.com), June 29, 2001.
I plan on going this weekend to see Tomb Raider. I hear Jolie's performance is pretty good. Personally I admire her for doing it against all odds. She looks ok in the commercials to me. BTW wish somebody'd call me a loser for making only 50 mil in about a week.
-- Barb e (Suesuesbeo@cs.com), June 30, 2001.
I have only read one review so far but it got 1 out of 5, which translates into "bad". Here's what I read in a review: "Lara Croft is an adventurer similar to Indiana Jones, but the movie about her lacks all the excitement, action and humour which Steven Spielbergs movies about him have." You want action? You won't be disappointed. Beyond that? Sadly, no. Angelina Jolie is a fine actress though. I hope nobody ever makes a similar Aeon Flux movie.
-- Vercingetorix (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 30, 2001.
Somehow I think that if it takes the success of Tomb Raider to usher in an Aeon movie, I'd rather not have the movie at all. It would tell you something of the producers' intentions, and in turn, of the movie's quality.
-- Mat Rebholz (email@example.com), June 30, 2001.
Studios green-light films for all sorts of flaky reasons. While some executive might equate TR with Aeon, that doesn't necessarily reflect on the quality of the movie.
Barb: Don't get me wrong, $50 million is a very, very good take. I just don't think Tomb Raider, in the weeks to come, will be a Matrix-sized hit. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
-- Inukko (firstname.lastname@example.org), June 30, 2001.
Just got back from Tomb Raider...this movie was GREAT! How could you guys not love it? Didn't you notice the similiarity to Chronophasia when Croft fell down the hole? The antagonistic relationship between she and the male co-star? How about the scene where she is flipping around? Or the Kalodan-like music as she entered the Eastern temple in the jungle? Jolie wasn't good, she was wonderful. The sets with the cogs and gears put me very much in mind of a more upscale Wizard of Mars, one of my fav old cheapey sci-fi's with John Carradine, I was delighted to see these touches. I'm sure there's an Aeon Flux admirer involved in this movie somewhere, I say we bug him to make Aeon Flux!
-- Barb e (Suesuesbeo@cs.com), July 01, 2001.
While that stuff's all well and good, I think what matters most about an Aeon Flux story is everything that is not aesthetic.
-- Mat Rebholz (email@example.com), July 01, 2001.
Tomb Raider, how do I hate thee? Let me count the ways:
1. Completely inappropriate breakbeat soundtrack. While a couple of tracks were fairly cool (ie: Leftfield's "Song of Life"), the rest was just more of the pop-tronica rubbish Hollywood loves to stuff down our throats.
2. Angelina Jolie's paper-thin performance. Granted, her stunt work was good, but her lines lacked any sort of emotion. Video-game Lara was more convincing.
3. Inconsistencies. Why can a monster made of rock suddenly be brought down with a single bullet or punch to the face? Oh, right - It's In The Script.
4. Poor attempts at humor. Hey, check out that shower scene! You think it's a girl, but it's a guy, huh huh.
5. Supporting cast: They don't. While the characters of the butler, computer geek, former lover ect. are all decent, the script doesn't give them anything to do.
6. The Illuminati sub-plot. I mean, Illuminati? Puh-leeze! If R.A.W. saw this, he'd sue for defamation.
7. The "touching" re-union with her father. It says something about Jolie's performance that this scene fails to elicit any feeling whatsoever; also, couldn't she just kick the knife around?
More than anything, I found this movie boring; not in the "slow drawn-out" way, but in the "nothing much really happens" way. One or two good set-pieces, and that's it. This is the supermodel of movies; it just stands there looking good, without a single thought in it's pretty little head.
-- Inukko (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 01, 2001.
The Beowulf movie with Christopher Lambert was awful!!!! it was cheesy, the graphics were oook it just didn't seem to go with the movie though it was strange, and the whole sex scene or lack of was totally inappropriate. just alot of extra scenes that were drawn out. lambert is to good of an actor to play in such a bad movie. haven't seen tomb raider yet, but i am meaning too. i hear it is very good and from what barb says i tend to lean toward the good side i'll have to check it out. :O)
-- Lady Morgan (AeonFluxFan1@msn.com), July 02, 2001.
Any movie with Christopher Lambert is an awful one. By the way, one thing puzzles me. People in general don't read reviews. Many of my friends always say stuff like: "Don't see it, it sucked." Of course I already knew that having read lots of reviews. "Save your money",they say. Well, they could have saved their money as well if they bothered to read any major mag. I'm not saying critics are all-knowing and wise but in 4 out of 5 cases they are absolutely right. The same can be applied to music. If there was a critic who said bad things about Aeon Flux or Chung I'd kick his butt!
-- Vercingetorix (email@example.com), July 02, 2001.
Why settle for a live-action version when we all know it'd never do Aeon justice? I'd love to see the "powers that be" take a lesson out of the Final Fantasy handbook. Haven't seen the movie yet, as it hasn't been released but the animation is SO lifelike it's uncanny! I think to do an Aeon movie this way would not betray our beloved series with pathetic live action versions of things like the narghiles and seraphs. And it would also settle the whole "what actress would play Aeon" debate by having an animated actress that was truly Aeon (vive la voice of Denise!)
-- pixi (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 02, 2001.
There was a sex scene in Beowulf?....hahaha. Sometimes they don't realize how funny they are out there. BTW that name is the reason my name is SuesuesBEO...wulf. Thanks for the vote of confidence Aeonfluxfan1; I have ecclectic taste in movies...from my fav movie to you I bequeath you this plaintive little song; can you guess the movie? "La la la la, la la la la la la la la laaaaa.....La la la la, la la la la la la la la laaaaa.......La la la la la la la. La la la la la la la. La la la la la la la la la la la la laaaaaa. La la la la la la la la la la la la laaaaaaaaaaaaaa".
-- Barb e (Suesuesbeo@cs.com), July 02, 2001.
I'll give you a hint, ever see anyone as cute and sexy as John Cassavettes........
-- Barb e (Suesuesbeo@cs.com), July 03, 2001.
Rose Mary's Baby!!!!!!! *sings along with barb* la la la la la la laaaaaa laaa
-- Lady Morgan (AeonFluxFan1@msn.com), July 03, 2001.
As of this week, Tomb Raider grossed $110 million... impressive. But does this mean more Aeon, or more Tomb Raiders?
-- Inukko (email@example.com), July 12, 2001.
Just stopping by to say that I knew "Tombraider" was a giant, multi- million dollar turd from the word go. When I saw Jolie in costume, I only wished I knew someone I could bet some serious cash with over the quality of the movie. Did Lara shoot the rock monster with her pistol? If so, that's rather sad, considering it's a 9mm handgun. Of course, in the Matrix, Neo shot an elevator cable in half with one, so it's okay by their logic.
And you say she punched one to death? Well, of course she can, she's a "tough" girl, and tough girls in movies are human juggernauts. They have infinite strength and endurance, and cannot be harmed even by explosions. One punch from them to just about any part of the body is fatal, and they can easily break your neck by quickly snapping it to the side, even if that's not past your full range of motion. Only Wolverine could stand up to Lara, and he'd still die. They'd find the exception in his "virtually" indestructable skeleton would be her punches. And his healing powers wouldn't be able to repair any injuries she inflicts. All that would be left of him would be a pile of blood-stained, shattered adamantium bones.
Oh wait, Wolverine knows some form of the martial arts. Okay, draw then. Because people that know martial arts ALWAYS win fights, no matter how much stronger their opponent is, how outnumbered they are, or if their opponent has a weapon of any type.
-- ChaosKnight (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 12, 2001.
LMAO Chaos, Truer words were never spoken. Except you forgot that if Hollywood REALLY got their way there would be one adendum to your scenario:
Just before Lara delivered Wolverine the fatal roundhouse kick, something would sparkle in his eyes, and Lara would realize that she's fallen for him and the tension would build until they finally, both swept up with passion, hurriedly embrace and kiss. And Wolverine would cutely grimace with pain from Lara's firm hugs on broken ribs.
-- pixi (email@example.com), July 12, 2001.
Ok ok so it wasn't the next 'gone with the wind' and the rock guys were, like THE worst, but I liked the Croft interpretation by Jolie and I'm like so desperate for a Flux movie I see potential in this genre. My honest opinion: I still feel the animated versions the best way to go, but with Chung at the helm it would be every bit worthy of our viewing, don't you think? Course, nothing beats Poirier and Lee. Nothing.
-- Barb e. (Suesuesbeo@aol.com), July 12, 2001.
Ever see Indiana Jones? Those movies would drive you nuts then. If he really got pulled behind a truck like I think Harrison Ford would have lost his entrails! But thats fantasy. I thought the plot in tomb raider could have been better but Jolie did a good job with it.
If a Aeon Flux movie was made I absolutely agree that it has to be animated with the orginal creative team or at least a good amount of it. The people who did tomb raider couldn't even get it completely right and they were writting for a Indiana Jones like movie. How can you screw that up! If anyone else attempted Aeon Flux it would be a nightmare.
-- Jack (firstname.lastname@example.org), July 12, 2001.
Monday 1st September 2003: Aeon Flux Update: Paramount and MTV Film have reportedly pulled the plug on the live-action feature version of Aeon Flux, to which director Karyn Kusama was attached.
-- Jesus Penis (email@example.com), October 26, 2003.
If you've seen the Aeon Flux animated series, you know they always had a rather surrealistic and almost.. creepy quality to 'em (really, I had to watch them buggers a dozen times each to understand 'em). So, If they keep the surrealism, and make it so people don't understand what the heck is going on, it'll work out well. And, even though I would've picked someone else to play Aeon, they certainly could've done alot worse. Charlize will do well I bet, in her first primary-starring role. =)
-- Diana (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 13, 2004.