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I was wondering if anyone out there has heard of the gas boycott that is being planned across America for 3 days, from April 7-9? Right now our self-serve regular gas in NE NY is $1.70 per gal. I've been sent 2 e-mails regarding it, so am passing the word.
-- Elaine Cosgrove (email@example.com), March 14, 2000
Well were not far behind you , St Lawrence county N.Y. is 1.62 a gallon.Look on this foum for the NORTH AMERICAN GAS OUT its been posted here for a while .
-- Patty Gamble (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 14, 2000.
Self-serve regular is $1.50 in NE Texas now. I need to buy propane, but I'm not sure my pocketbook will stand it. Propane never went below $.99/gallon last year. Haven't bought any this year.They won't deliver less than 100 gallons.
-- Green (email@example.com), March 14, 2000.
You guys are luck. In Northern Calif. (top of the state) we are already paying 2.00 a gallon. I figure by May it might be up to 2.80. Course Ca. has a bunch of taxes they tack on for the clear air etc.
-- Linda Hess (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 14, 2000.
Can the taxes that we pay on gasoline be deducted from federal or state income taxes?
-- Rich (email@example.com), March 14, 2000.
I did a cost analysis matrix to see if I could afford the transportation costs associated with going back to school. When I did it several weeks ago, I used 3 variables for gas prices: $1.50/gal, $1.75/gal, and $2.00 gal. I thought I was being pretty careful, and figured gas might be up to 2 bucks by summer quarter. Sheesh! I think I better take another look! Haven't been driving much this week. Last time I looked the cheap place regular price was $1.51, but it was going up 5 cents a gallon every 2 or 3 days. (western wa). I am afraid to look! Bet it's pushing the $1.75 point.
-- sheepish (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 14, 2000.
Here in southern Oregon it is $1.70 at my local pump but 25 miles to the south in the city it is $1.65, I think. Relatively thinking, if you go back to the 70s when gas shot up from 35c +/- to .95+ gas is still cheaper in todays dollars. Once we get use to the higher prices, we will not think much of it, excpet in the terms of the "good old days". I have a truck that on it's best day gets 11-MPG but I have to have it as long as I farm, haul feed, hay etc. I might be able to go to a smaller truck, use a trailer and get 15 MPG.
We will stay home for the GAS-OUT.
-- Hendo (OR) (email@example.com), March 14, 2000.
I for one am considering were i'm going and if I really need to go there.I also have a truck we need for the kids and the farm .I can't get a smaller one or the family can't fit .We are so far from town that its at least a 30 min ride to any town.I wish the gov. would do something fast !
-- Patty Gamble (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 14, 2000.
1.86 self serve name brand 2.05 here in sandiego cant afford to drive truck
-- shaun cornish (email@example.com), March 14, 2000.
$1.49 a gal at very small town convenience store in Southeastern In. Is three days of boycotting gas long enough to do any good?
-- Cindy (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 14, 2000.
In the Albany, NY area, gas seems to be in the $1.58 to $1.64 range for regular, self-serve. One thing that has struck me during this shortage-it appears you can buy as much as you want, or can afford! I haven't heard of any rationing. Is there really a shortage?
-- Bluetick (email@example.com), March 14, 2000.
Southeast Kansas is running $1.45 - $1.49. Thought it was bad but guess not so bad after all. But regardless of how much it is other places it still hurts my wallet here where I live.
-- Vaughn (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 14, 2000.
A friend sent this to me in an email. Sorry I don't know who to thank to give credit to. Is there some kind of email protocol for this? (I hope this formatting works, too....never tried this). I thought this was very interesting:
"So, you think a gallon of gasoline is expensive, huh??
Diet Snapple 16oz for $1.29 = $10.32 per gallon
Lipton Ice Tea 16oz for $1.19 = $ 9.52 per gallon
Gatorade 20oz for $1.59 = $ 10.17 per gallon
Ocean Spray 16oz for $1.25 = $ 10.00 per gallon
Pint of milk 16oz for $1.59 = $12.72 per gallon
STP Brake Fluid 12oz for $3.15 = $ 33.60 per gallon
Vick's Nyquil 6oz for $8.35 = $ 178.13 per gallon
Pepto Bismol 4oz for $3.85 = $123.20 per gallon
Whiteout 7oz for $1.39 = $25.42 per gallon
Scope 1.5oz for $0.99 = $ 84.48 per gallon
And this is the REAL KICKER......
Evian water 9oz for $1.49 = $ 21.19 per gallon.....$21.19 FOR WATER!!
So next time you're at the pump, be glad your car doesn't run on Nyquil, or Scope, or Whiteout!!!!"
-- sheepish (email@example.com), March 14, 2000.
for many years, we in america have been paying much less for gas prices that the rest of the world. the reasons are many and varied as a church covered-dish getogether. However, in response to the query at hand...america's ecomomy is comsumer driven, in a sense. Years ago, there was a movie whose line, "I'm damn mad and I'm not going to take it any longer.", strikes a cord with me now. I'm half temped to start a movement that I'd call T.I.N.A. short for this is not acceptable. A crusader I'm not but however learned and cultured we get, we cannot excape the reality of the squeeky wheel gets the grease...
-- scott wyatt (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 15, 2000.
Sheepish: I was going to post the same email on the site, got it today. Makes you think, but I don't think any of us like where this is going. When you live far from town, (we also live 30+miles from the city)you have to get into the habit of planning each and every trip, getting everything you need, and only going when you really need to. When my son, his wife and their friend moved here 5 years ago from Hawaii, they drove into Colorado Springs every day to purchase what they were going to need to fix dinner that night. They weren't working yet, but were doing all the cooking and shopping to "pay rent" for staying with us. I tried to convince them to use the food we had on hand, or to substitute things, but no way. It was a while before I realized they had to get a daily dose of civilization, and just couldn't handle the solitude of the place! Had to go to the mall! Now, they live in the city, and can't wait to come out to the farm to get away from the traffic, fumes, etc. I never go to the store to get one thing, (well, maybe bathroom tissue, but I would make the trip worthwhile!) I don't know if the gas-out will help or not, but at least it will make a statement. Here, the gas is running about $1.49 for the lowest grade,up to 1.79 for premium. No wonder the truckers are protesting, with diesel going for the same or more than unleaded gas.
-- Jan B (Janice12@aol.com), March 15, 2000.
Yikes this thread is getting so long!!
The irony with the above email info I posted, to me, anyway, is that I don't use any of those products!! Well, maybe we have used the brake fluid, I dunno. What a price comparison. I *do* use gasoline a lot because I have to. I don't use white out or scope or bottled water (except the kind I make myself). What a civilization we live in. Love our priorities....
-- sheepish (email@example.com), March 16, 2000.
What a riot--Sheepish, I didn't even notice that I don't use any of them either (ok, I confess, I always end up buying those little Pepto Bismol tablets when I get a little too loose while travelling in Latin America, and have to take a long bus ride without a bathroom)
I use gasoline, too, dang it. I don't use much, but I'd use a lot less if there were bus or train service to my area.
-- jumpoff joe (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 16, 2000.
Count me in. We're not buying gas from April 7 to April 9. You know, the crooks can do anything they want and they're just trying to milk more $ out of us. I'm first, before anything else, a Christian and I believe this is the a good thing to do. Eagle.
-- eagle (email@example.com), March 18, 2000.
O.K. the price comparison was interesting , but who the heck had that much time and patience to do it.
-- Patty Gamble (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 18, 2000.
here in western pa, i believe the last time purchasing gas we paid $1.59 for the cheap stuff. i won't be buying gas during the gas out, but like some people said, is 3 days really enough? and is there actually a "shortage". the thing i can't figure out is alaska is a state in the united states the last time i checked and they have lots of oil! so what exactly is the problem here?!? anyhow, i'm thinking of getting our next vehicle that uses natural gas. has anyone had any experience with a natural gas vehicle? the price wouldn't affect me as we own our own natural gas well. but how do "fill up" a natural gas vehicle? thanks for any answers, and i do hope the price comes down with the gas out! good luck to everyone!
-- michael w. smith (email@example.com), March 19, 2000.
Whatever happened with the truckers "march" (drive?) on D.C.? Guess I live in a cave...
-- sheepish (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 19, 2000.
The first truckers rally only yielded 360 some trucks--I heard there was a second one last week--haven't heard the results on that one. I guess they were to busy making up the difference to stop and rally. I find myself the low man again on gas prices--still 1.39 here--what a blessing ! Western Virginia On the Alaskan oil--it is all sent via boat to Japan--I heard. Some old trade deal we made. They say we keep 75% of our oil wells capped for reserve in case of war. I don't find that hard to believe as war is our chief export.
-- Joel Rosen (Joel681@webtv.net), March 20, 2000.
I live in Texas, home of many, many oil wells, many, many of which ARE capped. There have also been a larger than usual number of fires and explosions in refineries both in TX and LA. Don't know the cause.
-- Green (email@example.com), March 20, 2000.
For any boycott to work, people must stop using the product. A boycott from April 7-9 would be a 'feel good' boycott. Most folks are saying they'll just fillup on the 6th. And keep driving. If everybody does this, the only folks hurt would be the stores selling the gas. The refineries will keep producing at the same rate.
Now, if everybody in the country really boycotted, there would be ripples, and prices would fall. No driving for three days. No electricty used for three days. No heating oil. No natural gas. Don't do anything that might consume fossil fuels for three days. Of course, that ain't gonna happen. Everybody'd lose their jobs and all the food in the icebox.
What can the government do? Good question! Lower gas taxes for one. Won't happen. Lower taxes on drilling new wells. Eliminate wellhead taxes. Royalty owners pay state, federal, county, school, fire district, water district, and other taxes. Then they pay income tax on what's leftover. A few years ago, Uncle Sam gave tax breaks for drilling in formations that are expensive to produce. Since then, the only drilling in my area (Panola County, Tx Onetime gas capital of the country) is in the 'tight sand' expensive to produce formations. Add incentives and people in the business of producing what we, the consumers want, will produce it.
I too, long for the day, when we don't need cars anymore, but in the meantime, I'll keep driving. (and keep looking for that one special mule...riding and plowing and packing)
-- phil (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 20, 2000.
Gas today 3/20 is $1.58 a gallon for basic unleaded here in E. Central Illinois. I don't have to work April 7-9, or I would be one of those filling my tank on the 6th. I am an RN, and round trip to work is 54 miles. I work 12 hour nights/3 days a week ( plus overtime) to help with both my family schedule and the commute. I try to do my town chores on the way to/from work, but given that my 12 hr nights often end up encompassing 15 by the time I finish my paperwork and commute - and the fact that I am on my feet all night, sometimes I am doing good just to make the drive home. Drive a small car that gets almost 30 mpg, hubby's truck gets about the same but his commute is 40 miles/6 days a week. We buy our propane on contract each year in the summer - have to order and pay up front - we got 1000 gal for about $700 this year, still have another 100 or so gallons that they will deliver when our tank gets low. Use it for all heating, water heater. 1000 gallons lasts about a year. Have no intention of moving away from the farm and there are no decent jobs closer, so I will just bite the bullet and pay the $$.
-- Polly (email@example.com), March 20, 2000.
Phil, You find some good mules, you let me know! They are dream animals, engineered better'n any fuel celled product of the 21st century! If I ever get any more critters, they are high on my list. I bet most people think I oughta get my head examined. Oh well....
-- sheepish (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 20, 2000.
I heard a debate between V.P.Gore(the bore) and Bradley. Gore said the Clinton Admin. told OPEC to go ahead and raise oil prices because Russia neeed to get a better price for their oil so they could pay the American bankers the money they owe them and are behind in the payments. Then the EPA came up with the stupid MTBE formula (makes people sick) and ordered the oil companies to produce it now instead of waiting for prices to come down. However, the patent for MTBE is owned by UNICAL and the other oil companies don't want to pay royalties to a competitor. What to do? Write Al Gore and tell him you are going to stick it to him with your vote. That will do more than anything else. Dr. Lenny Anderson
-- Dr. Lenny Anderson (email@example.com), June 26, 2000.
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