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I have been hearing on the short wave radio, about watch the 29 of July, Israels Day of Ya. What does that mean. And why do they think things will explode? They just mention it a little, but don"t explain it. Irene

-- Irene texas (, July 23, 2001


Hi Irene. I believe it is Yah, which can also be Yahweh, altho' I shouldn't even write that out in orthodox customs. I really don't know anything about it, but it sounds interesting. I will see what I can find out.

-- Dreen (, July 23, 2001.

This is all I could find on it. I hope someone knows something more..................

The most emotional patch of ground on earth By Paul Wood in Jerusalem

An influential group of Jewish settler rabbis has called on Israelis to join a mass visit to the disputed Temple Mount in Jerusalem - sovereignty over which has been one of the most difficult issues in the stalled peace process.

The Rabbinical Council of Judea, Samaria and Gaza said it was overturning a religious ban on visits to the Temple Mount - and was calling on rabbis to bring their communities to visit it, while urging the Israeli public to do the same.

This rabbinical appeal for Israelis to visit the Temple Mount can scarcely have come at a worse time for the peace process, with the Israeli-Palestinian truce faltering and Prime Minister Ariel Sharon under pressure as never before from the right-wing and religious Jews who helped elect him.

It often seems as if more emotion - grief, anger and hope - is invested in the Temple Mount than in any other patch of ground on earth.

Controversial visit

To Muslims, it is Haram-al-Sharif, the noble sanctuary, where the Prophet Muhammad ascended to heaven, and where one prayer at the al-Aqsa mosque is worth 500 elsewhere.

It was Mr Sharon's controversial visit to one part of the disputed compound last year, which lit the fuse of the Palestinian uprising.

It is also Judaism's holiest site, containing the ancient rock where Abraham prepared to sacrifice his son and, crucially, it is where Judaism's second temple stood and was destroyed.

Overturning religious ban

The Rabbinical Council of Judea, Samaria and Gaza has been steadily moving away from the religious injunction stopping Jews from setting foot on the Temple Mount.

They have now abandoned it altogether.

They essentially represent the most orthodox Jews among settlers in the West Bank and Gaza, but are still thought to be able to call upon tens of thousands of followers.

They are asking those followers to ascend the Temple Mount on a Jewish religious holiday on 29 July, which commemorates, among other things, the destruction of the first and second temples.

The security forces will stop them, but focusing attention on this most intractable of issues will deepen the divisions in Israeli society, cause more Palestinian anger, and make any eventual peace settlement much more difficult to achieve.

-- (, July 23, 2001.

I have heard that the last prophecy to be fulfilled before end times is that the Jews will reclaim their temple. Has anyone else heard that?

-- (, July 23, 2001.

July 29 this year is Av 9 on the Jewish calendar. It is a very important date in Jewish history. The following is excerpted from Beyond the Millennium by Paul Meier and Robert Wise (from the appendix).

"Over 3,500 years ago on Av 9, ten spineless Hebrew spies entered Canaan in preparation for Israel's invasion. Because they were faithless, Israel wandered in the wilderness for 40 more years. From that point on, the date of Av 9 became a day of infamy. Most of the horrible things that God, in his sovereignty, allowed to happen have occured at this time. The Old Testament calls Av 9 an annual day of fasting and mourning.

The first temple fell on Av9, 587BC. In A.D. 70 Titus and the Roman legions besieged Jerusalem, killing many priests and stopping sacrifices, finally destroying the rebuilt temple on Av 9. Sixty- fuve years later, the last Jewish uprising against Rome...was crushed on Av 9.

Centuries later, the expulsion of Jews from England in 1290 and France in 1306 occurred on Av 9. In 1492, Jews were driven from Spain on ...the ninth of Av. The Holocaust officially began on that unspeakable Av 9, 1942, when Hitler began loading the crematoriums. As horrible as this review is, the entire catalogue has hardly been touched. This singular day should cause every Jew to shudder every year as it rolls round.

... the special Av 9 predicted in Ezekiel 38 and 39. The prophet foresaw a future was during a time of false security based on a faulty peace treaty. Israel's enemies will be Iran, Ethiopia, and Libya, with a high probability of Syria, Russia, and several other nations joining them. The clash will be shortlived, because God will supernaturally deliver Israel. Ezekiel predicted dead enemy soldiers piled in such quantities that it would take 7 months to pick them up and bury them."

-- Deena in GA (, July 23, 2001.

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