T-Max 400 8x10 demise?

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Has Kodak announced that it's going to discontinue 8x10 TMY? A salesman at Adorama told that it's either discontinued or will be by the end of the year.

-- Rich (earregardless@yahoo.com), August 26, 2001

Answers

I don't know but if they do I will be buying all I can!

-- Jorge Gasteazoro (jorgegm@worldnet.att.net), August 26, 2001.

And once again I sit here as negs are in the rinse thinking "Ilford does make some nice films".

Even at that, Delta 400 is no longer available in 8x10 either...damn.

-- Dan Smith (shooter@brigham.net), August 26, 2001.


I standardized on HP-5+ since I think it will be the last 8x10 film to go.

-- William Marderness (wmarderness@hotmail.com), August 26, 2001.

The last to go will probably be TriX. Unless Michael A. Smith has a few more freezers full of the SuperXX in 8x10 hidden away & decides to sell it someday.

-- Dan Smith (shooter@brigham.net), August 26, 2001.

Anyone know who has 8x10 T-Max 400 inventory? Checked B&H and it was not in stock. Thanks

-- Michael Kadillak (m.kadillak@home.com), August 27, 2001.


This is Kodak's subtle way to get all their cusmtomers to buy Ilford films. Tri-X? Tri-X? We don't need no stinkin' Tri-X!

Cheerio

-- floren (flcpge@yahoo.com), August 27, 2001.


I got an e-mail from Kodak. They are discontinuing TMY 8x10 in the 25 sheet box. They will still be offering it in the 50 sheet box.

For now . . . .

-- Rich (earregardless@yahoo.com), August 30, 2001.


Kodak's Web site now has a version of publication F-32, "Kodak T-MAX Professional Films," carrying a September 2001 date. Interestingly, on page 26, after noting that the catalog numbers below apply to products sold in the US, and that different sizes are available by special order, it goes on to list only these standard sheet film sizes:

TMX -

100 sheets 5x7

10 sheets 11x14

20 sheets (Readyload packets) 4x5

TMY-

100 sheets 5x7

No 8x10 of either emulsion, no 4x5 other than Readyloads. What do you think - - massive typos? Or wierd marketing?

-- Sal Santamaura (bc_hill@qwestinternet.net), August 30, 2001.


Sal, I really hope it was a typo! If not somebody must take away the drugs the marketing people are taking. According to your post they will stop selling TMY in 4x5 boxes, 8x10 boxes, and will sell it in readyload, and 5x7? so lets see, they are going to close the market on the sizes they sell the most and leave the market where they sell the least? I bet you there is a moron MBA from Harvard telling people "hey folks lets force the LF photographers to buy 5x7 and readyloads by taking away our most succesfull packaging sizes" LOL.. Anyhow, like Dan Smith said, recently I have been thinking that Ilford does make some nice films, and the new Fuji ACROS is not too shabby!

-- Jorge Gasteazoro (jorgegm@worldnet.att.net), August 30, 2001.

Last night I checked my most recent printed copies of F-32. In the same section, with the same introductory words, they had these entries:

February 2001 version-

TMX-

25 sheets 4x5

100 sheets 4x5

20 sheets (single-sheet Readyload) 4x5

100 sheets 5x7

25 sheets 8x10

10 sheets 11x14

TMY-

25 sheets 4x5

100 sheets 4x5

100 sheets 5x7

25 sheets 8x10

September 2000 version-

TMX-

25 sheets 4x5

100 sheets 4x5

20 sheets (double-sheet Readyload) 4x5

100 sheets 5x7

25 sheets 8x10

10 sheets 11x14

TMY-

25 sheets 4x5

100 sheets 4x5

100 sheets 5x7

25 sheets 8x10

So it seems that there has been no 50 sheet 8x10 TMY package available as a standard order item for at least one year. Reminds me of something Dan Smith said elsewhere about the variability of answers one gets from Kodak...

-- Sal Santamaura (bc_hill@qwestinternet.net), August 31, 2001.



I don't have it in front of me right now, but one of our dealers gave me a copy of a Kodak pamphlet dated this month called "Current Films at a Glance". The most notable change was that most of the current sheet films were going to be offered in 50 sheet boxes only. Since we mainly shoot only TMX, I paid the most attention to that....so for 4x5, the 100 sheet and 25 sheet boxes will be phased out this fall. It wasn't straight across the board either, it seemed like some films were still available in 100 sheet quantities. The bigger changes came in the chemistry lineup though. Like the small 8 oz bottles of Selenium toner were being phased out, and some of the other ones, the Brown toner & Polytoner sizes were gone too. The half gallon dry chemical sizes, D76 etc. were discontinued. I've found alot of discrepencies between what the Kodak Pro site says, what the catatlogs say, and even what a rep will tell you. If there's a kodak dealer near you all, see if you can get a copy of this list. Personally, I'd rather see them make all the sizes in 100 sheet only if they had to, that way it's less packaging to throw away...we can burn up 100 sheets a week easily...

-- DK Thompson (kthompson@moh.dcr.state.nc.us), August 31, 2001.

Okay, I found the sheet. According to this list, TMY in 8x10 will only be available in a 50 sheet box. They are discontinuing the 25 sheet box. Same for the 4x5. The 25 sheet and 100 sheet boxes are discontinued. 50 sheet boxes only. Same thing with TXP. Ektapan & PXP look like they will be in 100 sheet boxes for 4x5 and 5x7, and 50 for 8x10. The only discrepency I can see here is that Pro Copy is still listed as being in production, when in fact it was discontinued in April. Uhm, Tech Pan will be in 50 sheets only. Contrast Process Ortho will be discontinued. The color films are in the same way, but most of them were in 50 sheet boxes to begin with. Some are not in 10 sheet boxes anymore though.

There are about 2 pages of chemistry changes as well. Most of it is just packaging amounts, but some things the 1 qt. bottle of Polytoner are discontinued, as is the 8 oz. Selenium. If you're interested, these came from "Current Films At A Glance" Aug.2001, and "Kodak News" Aug. 2001.

-- DK Thomspon (kthompson@moh.dcr.state.nc.us), August 31, 2001.


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