I have one of Walthers ACL Budd 10-6 Sleepers with the following names: Jaser County, Wayne County, Orange County, Hanover County, and Robeson County, are these names correct? In Joseph M. Welsh book "Streamliner New York to Florida" he does not list the above names. I can only find Pullman Standard 10-6 sleepers on his list for the ACL. Did ACL purchase Budd sleepers from other railroad lines? Or is this just Walthers way of producding a Santa Fe line on Budd cars? Any help would be appreciated. Allen Wiener, Ocala, FL

-- Allen L. Wiener (SouRwy@aol.com), November 02, 2001

Answers

The cars in question are of SP heritage,i had a friend of mine who helped walthers on the design and the interoir

-- V.L.LEWIS (trkinsp5f33@aol.com), February 03, 2002.

Alan.... The Walthers 10-6's aren't even Santa Fe. Santa Fe purchased Pullman Standard sleepers for the most part. These are either SP or UP based cars from the tiny photos I can bring up on Walthers' site.

HOWEVER...here's the neato deal. You can insert a Walthers SP 10-6 in an ACL or SCL consist. They show up all the time in photos and videos of Florida bound winter season trains.

-- Buck Dean (bdean@jngray.com), November 06, 2001.

ACL never purchased any Budd built sleepers. Its sleepers were produced by either Pullman-Standard or ACF. It did lease Budd built sleepers from the B&O-namely the three ex-Chessie dome sleepers and various 16 duplex roomette-4 double bedroom sleepers which it ran as "Budget Sleepers" on the Champion. SAL/PRR did purchase 12 10 roomette 6 double bedroom sleepers from Budd in 1949 and SAL purchased 6 4 section 4 roomette 5 double bedroom 1 compartment sleepers from Budd in 1955.

Budd supplied coaches, coach baggage dorms, diners and observation cars to ACL.

Do get the "Purple Book" by my good friend Mr. "ACL" Goolsby.

-- Michael W. Savchak (Savchak@mnr.org), November 05, 2001.

As found in a certain book on postwar purple passenger service, the correct ACL "County" names were: Alachua, Beaufort, Berkeley, Chatham, Clarendon, Colleton, Cumberland, Darlington, Duval, Edgecombe, Glynn, Harnett, Hillsborough, Marion, Nash, Nassau, Northampton, Osceola, Pinellas, Polk, Prince George, Putnam, Seminole, Sumter, and Ware. These cars were built new for ACL by Pullman-Standard. ACL also bought 4 10-6s from C&O, also built by P- S, and named them Bryan County, Dillon County, Halifax County, and Volusia County.

-- Larry Goolsby (LGoolsby@aphsa.org), November 02, 2001.