National Guard asking for Papers : LUSENET : Freedom! self reliance : One Thread

I got this off another board.....what do you think? For myself, if some guy is asking me for my papers, I believe I will hand him a copy of the Constitution and tell him to get the heck out of my way unless he has a specific warrant for arrest! But I'm kinda cranky about things like...oh- the LAW of the land and my God given rights. How 'bout you?

Iowa National Guard Launches Terrorist Training Troops Will Train For Two Weeks

POSTED: 6:34 p.m. CST January 8, 2002 UPDATED: 9:36 p.m. CST January 8, 2002

WEST DES MOINES, Iowa -- The Iowa Army National Guard launched a two-week training mission Tuesday preparing members to protect our state against terrorist attacks.

Troops will be stationed in areas like Waterworks Park and Maffet Reservoir. Anyone driving or walking in or out of those areas will be subject to a military search.

Military helicopter pilots surveyed Des Moines all day Tuesday getting shots of the places troops will patrol.

"They know with events that have occurred they have a role here and they're prepared to do that role," Lt. Col. Tim Orr's said.

Starting next week, officers will be making their presence known around town as part of their terrorist training.

They'll be checking for id's and searching through vehicles. The Guard knows some people might consider the searches invasive, but officials said the idea is to be prepared when and if it's ever necessary.

Aside from training, the exercises are meant to serve as a reminder to Iowans. That attacks could happen here and we all need to be better prepared.

The Iowa Guard is working with the Governor's office and the Homeland Defense Coordinator so that any problems that come up can be worked out.

Iowa is the first state conducting this kind of training.

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-- Doreen (, January 10, 2002


Scarey! I'd probably be inclined to do what you would do, Doreen. Is this the wave of the future? Our rights are slowly going down the tube and what is so frustrating is that no one seems to care or even be interested.

-- Barb in Ky. (, January 10, 2002.

Hi Doreen,

Being an Iowan I couldn't believe I hadn't heard about this so I went and read the story at the iowa channel.

I did NOT find the following paragraph in the report. "They'll be checking for id's and searching through vehicles. The Guard knows some people might consider the searches invasive, but officials said the idea is to be prepared when and if it's ever necessary." The rest of the report is just like you've quoted in your post.

If anyone would like to read the article go to In the middle of the page under Homeland Security it says Iowa National Guard Launches Terrorist Training. Click on it and it'll take you right to the report.

-- Anna in Iowa (, January 10, 2002.

Which Police State was that??

May I should go live I'm sure I'll feel so much safer!!!!


-- Jim-mi (, January 10, 2002.

Well Jim-mi, I'm guessing you won't need to move, coming soon to a theatre near you, maybe nearer than you want!

Anna, I guess this was originally a tv report and the above was a transcript of it, there have been reports that a couple of sentences have been edited since it was first transcribed. I don't know. It could be either way. Here is a link to a video clip of the offending report, which I don't believe has been edited. You'll need to have realplayer, and certainly a much faster connection than I have to see it! I haven't seen this, but I would really appreciate a report back as to whether the video clip has the same info as I posted above.

Video Clip

Here's another link that suggests anyone who thinks we should follow the Constitution may be a terrorist.Made my day! Of course, it's necessary to protect all of us little sheep a los. This was given to some sheriff's department in Arizona: Are U a terrawist

I'm really curous to know about the video clip if anyone can tell me about the additions or editions! Thanks- I don't want to spread a falsehood, it seemed completely credible and the story looked the same when I followed the link.

-- Doreen (, January 10, 2002.

Doreen, Wow I [the person who's still got lots to learn about puters] clicked on that video thing and the Iowachannel thingy came up with real time audio & puter pix's......sure sounded the same as your top post...including the "invasive" reference!...The NG boys were sounding very serious......the hood of the vehicle raised up to look you said "comming to a_________near you"...............but damit I feel sooooooo safe I think I'll go to bed....

-- Jim-mi (, January 11, 2002.

It won't open for me so I can't see/hear it.

-- Anna in Iowa (, January 11, 2002.

My windows player works better than real player or quicktyme. Yeah the video clip matches your opinion Doreen. Wonder what other "states" will be used for "training". Bet NC offers to do it. ! @#$%^&*( this gets better and better. NOT!!!!

-- Kenneth in N.C. (, January 11, 2002.

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