Biblical reason for not taking kid from mother : LUSENET : Dairygoats : One Thread

Hi! I've been reading through the posts and came across one that was very interesting to me. I will try to not be too "religious" with it, but did want to clarify about the biblical reason for not removing a kid or lamb from it's mother. It had nothing to do with the doe/ewe's or the kid/lamb's well being but with the acceptability of using one of these babies as a sacrifice. As we don't practice the sacrificial system anymore, it has no bearing on us. The people who have Fiasco farm are Buddhists, and the only thing I know about it is they have a problem with a baby not knowing it's mother. Well, I guess this wasn't an overly useful post but it is interesting!

I also have a request, could we maybe post when we have our kids? I would sure like to know about your new additions and (hopefully) share ours!

Take care everyone.....keep your feet warm:)Cara

-- Cara Dailey (, January 10, 2002


Interesting information Cara.

of course we will all post our birth announcements, heck, I'll have about 45 when I am done! thats does freshening, so we are expecting around 60-80 kids. Good thing our son and daughter in-law are coming, there is no way i can bottle feed kids, milk goats and work 12 hrs a day at my day/night job. Can't wait to read about the ne wbabies and see pics.

-- Bernice (, January 10, 2002.

Thank you Cara for finding out that they are Buddist. I had no idea why, and wasn't going to ask. I only skimmed their site before referring folks to it, I thought it was great! My son is interested in Buddism, he has started meditating, which is great for a 17 year old to sit still for any reason! He said it is like prayer :) Vicki

-- Vicki McGaugh TX (, January 11, 2002.

I also found your post interesting, and will report 7 babies so far:) Milly had twin does on Saturday, Ruthie got triplet bucks on Sunday (everytime we have gotten triplets, they have been all bucks!). Molly had a buck and a doe Tuesday morning at 3am!!(not much sleep had that night.)

Keisha will hopefully kid the end of next week or so, then we are through until summer, with only one doe left to kid then.

-- mary (, January 11, 2002.

Well for one thing, the folks at Fiasco Farms believe (if I understand correctly) that you ought not to muck with the natural order of things. I tend to agree with them.

The biblical reason for not removing a kid from it's mother has *everything* to do with the well being of the kid and it's mother, just like the 10 commandments ( which are part of the law, by the way ) have everything to do with our own well being.

Buddhist, Christian, or Rajneeshee is irrelevant. If you believe that all things were created, then you kind of have to trust that the Creator knew what He was doing...

-- Michael Cribbins (, February 02, 2002.

It seems to me that the Ten Commandments (or any other code of ethics for that matter) were introduced for the purpose of *reversing* the natural tendency of things (i.e. human selfishness). Laws are for the lawless, as it were. So doing something contrary to the 'natural order of things' to prevent a nasty (yet equally natural) disease from infecting my herd doesn't exactly cause me to lose sleep. And in the light of the purely subjective evidence I've seen on the topic to date, I am convinced that a bottle-fed kid is in no way inferior nor superior to a kid left to nurse, and the same goes for the people making that choice.

-- Darrin Dailey (, February 03, 2002.

Great post Darrin! I am in total agreement with you on the bottle vs dam raising. There isn't one thing natural about livestock, once put into our captivity it is up to us to care for it. Vicki

-- Vicki McGaugh TX (, February 04, 2002.

That's an absolutely fantastic point, Darrin. I've never really thought about it that way before. Well said, indeed. Remind me not to debate anything of importance with you... =0)

-- Michael Cribbins (, February 10, 2002.

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