I'm begining to feel like "something is major wrong" Political

greenspun.com : LUSENET : Freedom! self reliance : One Thread

OK here in our little slice of NC we just saw where your finger prints will be required to purchase an airline ticket. Isn't that a little over the top? Then to board your prints must match or you get arrested.

The locale town council voted 15-3 to install video cameras at 6 intersections. Interesting thing is there all where your facing uphill. Can you say candid camera?

Just saw 15 minutes ago Now when the cops are are called Social Services will be notified and they will investigate you for calling the cops. How about that, call for help get Investigated.

Sometimes I think were not paranoid enough. What do ya'll think?

-- Kenneth in N.C. (wizardsplace13@hotmail.com), January 11, 2002


Kenneth, what airport was that? I know there are several where the facial recognition cameras are being installed...Fresno, & Oakland are the only ones I recall by name.

Big Borther is here, and he's retarded! BTW, I just finished re- reading 1984. Sounds like it's getting very close to realitty.


-- Doreen (animalwaitress@yahoo.com), January 12, 2002.

Hello Doreen,

Next thing you know we will be celebrating "Hate Week" and censoring history.



-- http://communities.msn.com/livingoffthelandintheozarks (espresso42@hotmail.com), January 12, 2002.

Airport on the telly was Charlotte, NC

-- Kenneth in N.C. (wizardsplace13@hotmail.com), January 12, 2002.

:gulp: What do I think? I think it stinks. :insert appropriate 1984 reference here: Um, neighbor: do you remember which station broadcasted the airport and the S.S. stories? Channel number will do fine.

I know a few cops, both in the county I live in and in Charlotte. I want to make sure I have my story straight before I ask them about it.

getting more paranoid by the minuite...

-- StevenB (thicketyrowfarm@earthlink.net), January 12, 2002.


-- Kenneth in N.C. (wizardsplace13@hotmail.com), January 12, 2002.

Hey Ernest!- I think we are celebrating Hate Week and censoring history already. Not quite as diabolically as in 1984, but think on these few things for a second:

Hate Week- Osama Bin Laden, a man on kidney dialysis is Public Enemy #1 wanted DEAD or Alive...well, he looks half dead, yet the dialysis machine seems to be working just fine in caves in Afghanistan. I have heard more older women saying how they HATE him and are tired of hearing of him as I wait in lines around this little burg. Weird. I wonder why the Ole Bin hasn't had his cell phone disconnected...Who's paying the bill? Where is the bill sent? Do they make solar powered dialysis machines? Wouldn't it be hard to ride out of Afghainistan thru the mountains carrying an entire set up for dialysis...including PV panels?...hmmmmm.

Censoring History: Geo Shrub and his EO disallowing FOIA access to Presidential documents has the serious potential of causing a major re write of history. But take it back a bit farther...okay a goood bit farther! The Civil War was fought to emancipate the slaves. I KNOW I was asked that question in Freshman American History and I answered just like I was PROGRAMMED to answer....Wrong, it was about State's Rights. Then there's our auspicious entry to WW2. Turns out that after all the cards get laid on the table FDR knew about the bombing of Pearl Harbor a full month in advance, but we won't put that in the history books. Oh yeah, now Russia is our ally, enemy, ally, and China is our enemy, ally, enemy...makes our useless trinkets and all of our footwear. Hmmmm, yet again.

This could go on and on, but it sure does run parallel.

BTW, I DON'T want to fly anymore!waaaah....

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), January 12, 2002.

". I wonder why the Ole Bin hasn't had his cell phone disconnected...Who's paying the bill?"

You are. No, Im not kidding. You are also paying part of his income every month.

DOD and various executive offices all use Iridium wireless. Iridium is run by one of Osama's older brothers. Osama was his multi millionaire fathers hated child and didnt get an allowance so his whole life the other brothers and sisters have paid him a portion of their allowance and earnings.

You pay his phone bill by the taxes that pay for DOD/Executive operation that goes to Osamas brothers contract that gets sent to Osama himself.

Makes ya feel all warm and fuzzy to know youre helping the sickly, donit? There are many reasons that Clinton didnt want to catch OBL and Iridium is one of the connections...

8/28/98 DAWN (Pakistan) Masood Haider "The brother of Osama bin Laden is a director of a US telecom giant, Irridium LLC, according to reports. Although the Clinton administration has made Osama the world's most wanted man, the rest of the family does millions of dollars in business with the US, reports say. Sheikh Hasan bin Laden, one of Osama's many brothers in a Saudi family of immense wealth and far-flung enterprises, is listed by the Securities and Exchange Commission as a director of Iridium LLC, the New York newspaper Daily News said… Irridium, which plans to put the first global network of cell phones and pagers into operation next month, has launched satellites four times aboard China's Long March rockets. The launches by Irridium, Hughes Electronics and Loral Space and Communications triggered a furore in Congress this summer amid allegations that China picked up missile targeting know-how from its arrangements with the US firms. Irridium confirmed that Hasan bin Laden is a director of the Irridium Middle East Corp subsidiary and that the Saudi bin Laden Group, the family's investment arm, has put money into the global phone link firm…."

-- William in WI (gnarledmaw@lycos.com), January 14, 2002.

Well isn't that just swanky? What a tangled web! Where do I submit my resignation papers?

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), January 15, 2002.

Sorry you can not Resign Doreen. Nobody Can. Spooky huh?

-- Terry (me@notrightnow.com), January 16, 2002.

Doreen, it's been at least thirty-five years since I've read 1984, but I seem to remember the protagonist's (was it Fritag, or was that Fahrenheit 451?) watching the (two way) telly screen which dominated his entire living room wall, and thinking, "hmm, I thought such and such country was our ALLY. I must be forgetting something". I think he, like us, has heard so many lies from so many administrations, that he had a hard time sorting everything out in his mind.

To ALL of you folks: be careful. Remember what John Asscraft said: "those who question the administration's anti terrorists are aiding and abetting the enemy."

Doreen, I've also seriously considered "resigning", for many of the same reasons. I believe that you CAN "resign", in a way. Simply move to a more democratic country. Or at least to one which is less corrupt than this one. Of course, this may not be to our liking either. I for one, would hate to leave all my friends, my kids and grandkids, and my community (into which I've put so much work and time), just to find myself an "outsider" in another country.

If I do leave, my current fantasy is Costa Rica. One of the few Latin American countries which hasn't had its democratically elected government overthrown by our CIA types. Maybe because there is not oil there? (Sinclair Oil did try to find oil, right in the middle of a Nature preserve next to Cahuita, but came up without a viable well. Can't remember the name of the preserve, right now. Parque Nacional de Cahuita, maybe?

Speaking of the tropics, and kids and grandbabies, I'm outa here. Goin' to Floriduh, where the sun shines, and your towel never dries out!

Anyone want me to say "hi" to our next president (select) while I'm there?

-- joj (jump@off.c), January 18, 2002.

Hey! Have fun on your trip....if you see ole jeb say HOWDY, or should that be "heil"...? Nah, just Hi will do.

I've actually looked into Costa Rica, Joj. Here's the thing for me, what are we leaving to your grandkids if we bail? It's almost like if we just think we can skate under the radar and keep our little heads down and avoid outright confrontation with TPTB, that we give tacit approval to their dictatorial actions. Too many in my family have both fought and died for the ideals espoused in the Constituion. I would be remiss to worry about only myself since so many have given their all.

However, I must admit that I am frustrated.sigh.

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), January 18, 2002.

Doreen, I'm back, and happy to say that I saw no bushes whatsoever in Floriduh! only grandbabies, son, daughter in law, lots of their friends, and lots of nice people at the beach.

I agree with you in your concern about what we'd be leaving our grandbabies if we bail. I've thought of that a lot.

I used to think that I would be more effective if I stayed and tried to influence the government here in the USA. In fact, I HAVE had a fair amount of such influence, but only locally. Well, a little bit at the state level, I guess, but mostly locally.

I have never, NEVER felt that the federales gave a tinker's doggonit about what I thought, what I wrote, what I said. I believe I could run into the middle of the senate office building, and yell "fire", and they'd all give me a great big yawn!

I've long been a proponent of "think globally, act locally". I've done that, more and more as I age. I feel like I'm a good citizen. I don't agree with a lot of your political leanings, and I think that's ok. I sure don't expect everyone to agree with me, either.

On the other hand, I see the us of a becoming a tool for some very bad boys to use to empower themselves--and ONLY themselves. These folks seem to care less what is good for the rest of us. That's the kind of thing that makes me feel so helpless as a usa citizen. We're supposed to have a representative government, and, by golly, I don't feel very doggone represented anymore. Anymore it seems that "money talks, scat walks". I'm not rich and famous (nor do I wanta be), so my vote "don't" count for much, it seems.

No se cuando yo vaya a salir...

-- joj (jump@off.c), January 25, 2002.

Nice summation,Joe. I suppose what it comes down to is that we just have to be as vigilant and boisterous as possible and not stop trying.And, I really don't expect everyone to agree with me, nor do I want them to,...that would be terribly boring! However, I want our Republic back!!

ps. thanks for curtailing la lengua!

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), January 25, 2002.

Hi, Doreen, I agree about wanting the republic back.

By "ps. thanks for curtailing la lengua! " are you referring to los palabrotas? ("bad" words)

-- joj (jump@off.c), January 25, 2002.

Por supuesto!

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), January 26, 2002.

Que interesante que hables el espanol, Doreen; donde aprendiste la lengua? Viajas por latinoamerica a veces? O otros lugares donde se habla espanol?

-- joj (jump@off.c), January 28, 2002.

Say what? :o)

No habla espanol!

-- Kenneth in N.C. (wizardsplace13@hotmail.com), January 29, 2002.

Sorry, Kenneth, I basically told Doreen that it was interesting that she speaks Spanish, where did she learn it, and does she sometimes travle where Spanish is spoken.

As for your statement "no habla espanol", you do know some, but only enough to get you in trouble! What you said means "YOU don't speak Spanish" (Or it could also mean HE, SHE or IT does not speak Spanish)

If you want to tell someone "I don't speak Spanish", you want to say, "No hablo espanol".

No charge for the Spanish lesson!

-- joj (jump@off.c), January 31, 2002.

I remember spanish class very well. That was the year I spent 50% of my time in the HS office. But dang it She was so cute and well....I learned one word cono. and all the tenses and verbs went poof. Back then 2nd language classes were electives. So most of us really took them just to goof off.

-- Kenneth in N.C. (wizardsplace13@hotmail.com), January 31, 2002.

Que lastima...

-- joj (jump@off.c), February 01, 2002.

Joj, aprendi en la escuela secondaria...solamente dos anos. Hablo como una nina de tres o quatro anos, pero cuando yo hablar mucho, recuerdo mas....pero no mucho! Comprendo mejor que puedo hablar....que lastima a mi!

-- Doreen (bisquit@here.com), February 01, 2002.

Doreen, yo tambien estudie por dos anos, pero yo estaba estudiando en Rogue Community College. Hasta recientemente, yo podria hablar mejor que entender. Que lastima a mi tambien! Sin embargo, desde hace unos anos, cuando yo compre la cena para mi amiga de Venezuela, he aprendido muchisimo mas espanol. Ahora puedo hablar con casi alguna persona sin problema. Me gusta mucho hablar con la gente de latinoamerica!

-- joj (jump@off.c), February 01, 2002.

Moderation questions? read the FAQ