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-- (Welcoming@Committee.nz.tv), January 16, 2002

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Well, without endorsing this group in any way (I didn't go beyond their home page) I like the panache of "the name is bomb..time bomb." Probably because it reminds me of my infamous younger brother. Fearless Fred, when he went away to college, was known to introduce himself at mixers as "Bond, James Bond." Believe it or not, I gather it sort of worked. We Erringti are known for exploring the gray area between true humor and utter silliness.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), January 16, 2002.

..the kooks, paranoids, fools, false prognosticators and losers of every stripe. A sadder sack of doom merchants has never been assembled in any one place. Chemtrails anyone?

-- Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com), January 16, 2002.

And what is your claim to fame Molson? I see that you do a lot of criticizing of others, but you don't seem to have much to add to "normal" conversations, whatever you think that might be. What is it that you like to talk about?

-- (please@enlighten.us), January 16, 2002.

Yeah Molson, WTF! it ain't like you are exactly above board and have an actual personality...why the hell did I even respond to this shit?

Waste of time, my bad.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), January 16, 2002.

Nobody ever accused charles of having a personality...

-- (who@am.I), January 16, 2002.

You Rock Molson!!!!!

This place needs some new acts and I like your stuff…..be a regular.

-- So (cr@t.es), January 17, 2002.

It seems I've riled up some of the paranoid stooges from Timebum. How are you "preps" for (insert favorite TEORWAWKI scenario here)

-- Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com), January 17, 2002.

No really, you should try it. At times it is like trying to talk to a wall, but it does have its amusing moments.

I've already been promoted to "Fornicating Sodomite" with hardly any effort at all.

-- Jack Booted Thug (governmentconspiracy@NWO.com), January 17, 2002.

"It seems I've riled up some of the paranoid stooges from Timebum."

You have? Where?

You should probably go there if you are intent on getting a real reaction. You know, where the real doomers are...unless you are a chickenshit and are afraid to confront them directly. We don't care. Drop the anon crap and be a part of humanity or go where you truly belong, Timebum.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), January 17, 2002.

I don't feel like getting into a discussion about the validity of Timebomb's concerns (though I certainly don't share these concerns.) I will point out, however, that this forum has been visited by people who are (1) clearly not from Timebomb, and (2) utter fools.

As one shining example, I was informed recently by some anonymous jerkoff that my nephew could not both be a genuine liberal and also be critical of Clinton. How's that, for shit-for-brains.

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), January 17, 2002.

Mr. Molson:

I don't know why I neglected to ask you a question in my previous post, but I'm asking it now: What do you think about the political assertion from the anonymous jerkoff, given above?

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), January 17, 2002.

"You should probably go there if you are intent on getting a real reaction. You know, where the real doomers are...unless you are a chickenshit and are afraid to confront them directly. "

Why root with the pigs? Do you actually think that intelligent discourse on, say, "chemtrails" is going to change anybody's mind over there? Do you think that logic, facts or reason will sway them?

Most of these folks are "true believers in the apocalypse" desperate for something dreadful to happen in the world we live in. Desperate to be right about SOMETHING! Desperate to finally gloat over their "sheeple" friends and neighbors.

If Y2K taught us anything about this mindset, it is that self- fulfilling prophecy and a cult-like blindness to the facts have replaced rational thought. When 911 happened, many of these people literally wet themselves with excitement – convinced that the end of the world was just around the corner. Convinced that the world would finally recognize the true genius of their Doomerdom

Their disappointment that nuclear or biological/attack coupled with an alien invasion did not occur dissuaded them not one whit from their next awful prognostication and the belief that the "gubmint" is monitoring their every move. Again I ask, why root with the pigs?

-- Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com), January 17, 2002.

Oh Molson, YOU again!

Look, I'll spell it out for you, because YOU seem to be the one with the rational thinking problem....

There are all sorts of people who post at timebomb...some who believe all the doomsday, some who believe some, and some who believe none. I read that forum, and I also post on threads THAT INTEREST ME. There is a wide array of subjects being discussed on timebomb, and I enjoy the variety. When I registered there, I did not have to take a solemn oath to believe every theory I read before I could get in. Get it?

Now Molson - tell me something... because I post here at Unk's and YOU also post at Unk's (apparently), does this mean that I stand by YOUR strange theories? HARDLY!

See, it's really not that difficult. Now run along and find a new toy, child!

-- (cin@cin.cin), January 17, 2002.

"Now Molson - tell me something... because I post here at Unk's and YOU also post at Unk's (apparently), does this mean that I stand by YOUR strange theories? HARDLY!"

You clearly need another visit to the logic store - it appears you are out. The difference between Unks - a wide open forum for every viewpoint - and Timebum - a cloistered forum for like-minded doomers is obvious to anyone with a room temperature IQ. The sort of direct (and perhaps impolite) criticism of doomers that I might engender would never be allowed on that forum.

While I appreciate that not EVERY TB participant believes in chemtrail/NWO/alien invasion/idiotic prophecies/illuminati/Cipro- gasmask hoarding/black helicopters/white trucks/etc the fact is the majority of you do. And the majority does not like to be criticized – and if they are – FatOlson bans them. Tell me again about your virtual egalitarian society…. p.s. What’s the latest prophecy we should be worried about…gigggle?

-- Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com), January 17, 2002.

Point is.

It should be clear by now that most if not all of the folks here are not concerned one iota about what the hell is goin' on over yonder. The want and desire to discuss Chemtrials was evidenced in your thread earlier [giggle].

IMO if they are hell bent on thinking that way, let'em have at it. If they are unchangeable in their thinking, then all your ranting is an utter waste of time. If you wanted so badly to enlighten them as to their folly I would suggest that speaking directly to them is more constructive than talking to us about them.

Again, it should be fairly clear that most don't give a ......... : )

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), January 17, 2002.

Capn

Your thong is on too tight. I was simply responding to the originator of the thread - "welcoming" people to a (IMHO) dreadful place.

-- Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com), January 17, 2002.

LOL, I knew I shoulda fenced in the pool.

-- capnfun (capnfun1@excite.com), January 17, 2002.

Poor Moslon doesn't get to play "impolite" at timebomb wha wha whaaaaaaaaa

Quit yer snivelin...ya big baby!

-- (cin@cin.cin), January 17, 2002.

Far be it for me to silence Mr. Molsen....I don't play that game.

But it's not a shock that he seems to be a one trick pony. Yes, the folks at TB worry about stuff that most of us don't worry about. A case can be made for many of them that they are out of the mainstream, a case can be made that some of them may, in fact, be downright goofy or perhaps even nutso.

OTOH, it seems that our dear Mr Molsen suffers from an afflicion himself; can'tgetoverititus.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeeD@yahoo.com), January 17, 2002.

Why root with the pigs? Do you actually think that intelligent discourse on, say, "chemtrails" is going to change anybody's mind over there?

Do you actually think that anyone here wants to have any kind of discourse on chemtrails? Agreeing with capn and Unk, one might think that you are meme infected.

-- (just an@anonymous.one), January 17, 2002.

I'm meme infected? Damn, I new I should have added cipro to my preps...

-- Dennis Molson (dennismolson@hotmail.com), January 18, 2002.

Speaking of memes:

I think one can talk quite intelligently about a meta-meme, which would be a meme about a meme.

Now regular meme theory fits some Y2K alarmists very well. The NWO "marshall law" people, those who think the government is poisoning us or sedating us with chemtrails, etc. etc.

The meta-meme we are dealing with, and have been for a long time, greatly exaggerates the effect of these real memes. It involves sweeping a lot of people into the meemer category who do not belong there.

The meta meme, like all memes, very much ties in with the self-image of those who subscribe to it. They see themselves as the truly smart segment of the population. This in their view makes them beyond criticism. Some of the extreme pollies made breathtakingly assinine statements about Y2K; any criticism was met with the basic argument "we wre right about Y2K and you were not, and you just can't stand it."

The supreme example of an assinine assertion that I can think of is that we could have gotten away with fix-on-failure. And there are other amazing arguments that these meta-meemers pulled out of their wazoos. Don't ever expect to engage these people on the merits of their arguments, all you will get is "who was right about the zero effects of Y2K."

-- Peter Errington (petere7@starpower.net), January 18, 2002.

While we’re on memes:

Let us not ignore the most insidious meme mutation of all……the ‘meta moaner meme’.

Subjects affected with this obsessive variation will spend countless hours protesting their inclusion into the meta meme community, hopelessly attempting to explain away the actions of the past. The meta moaners appear to be infested with shame and will go to great lengths to distance themselves from their past transgressions.

Chemical treatment is normally recommended.

-- So (cr@t.es), January 18, 2002.

I'll have the meme with nuts, please. And chocolate sauce.

-- helen (mmm@mmm.meme), January 18, 2002.

I'll have what Helen's having. : )

-- Pammy (sounds@yummy.to me), January 18, 2002.