Enya and her music

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Hi Guys What do you guys know, or think about the Music of Enya? I'am not sure if its right to listen to her music so I would like some input on what you know about her and what she believes. I did find a site of FAQ and they asked her about her the question.

What is Enya's Spiritual beliefs? For some reason this seams to be a question I get asked alot.. Ive had people ask me if she is Pagan.. No shes not, at least shes not showing it.. Enya is Catholic!! and she has been Catholic for her whole life...

http://www.geocities.com/kateithne/faq.html#spirit

Thanks for the input God Bless you John

-- John (jon.c@znet.com), February 07, 2002

Answers

First off, who care's about enya the only time i wanted to listen to her was to kill myself. second who are you to say she is something the hasn't been proven. third who cares what she believes. it's her decision. let her make her own place like the rest of the world.

your welcome for the input. but who really cares???

-- Steavo (pennywise_balloon@hotmail.com), February 08, 2002.


You Said: First off, who care's about enya

Well, Who cares about you? not me (smile)

You Said: The only time i wanted to listen to her was to kill myself. Maybe you should have follow thought with it, I mean, Who Cares? Right?.. Concidering you had a suicide spirit on you you must have not cared about yourself enough to car, so your right stevey wevey, Who Cares? not me (Smile)

Your Said: Who are you to say she is something the hasn't been proven.

I think you meant (that) and not (the), besides that, I didnt say she was proven. Who says your proven? therefore If nobody says that you are proven, then who cares about what you say? not me (smile)

You Said: Who cares what she believes. it's her decision. let her make her own place like the rest of the world.

Who Cares what you believe? Who cares what your heart believe, After all, its what you believe that govern's your heart, right? Lets all believe like the islamic extreme guys and go crash some more planes, then again, who cares, I mean, its your decision, right stevo? now go play with your dolls and learn about caring...

I would like someone that has at least the lest bit of seriousness to response to this forum, rather than clowns like stevo who doesnt care!

As far as Enya. I don't know that much about her but have heard some of her songs.

-- Rod Bergen (rod94@hotmail.com), February 08, 2002.


Well, Christ did say that it's not what goes in to us that destroys, but what comes out. Within the limits of prudence, I'm sure Enya's music is fine.

It's an interesting question though--to what extent does a person's beliefs effect the moral nature of their art? On the one hand, it seems there would be nothing intrinsically immoral about listening to Marylin Manson. On the other hand, to anyone with a Christian mind, his noise would be repulsive anyway. (Of course, MM is just old-hat, unoriginal, anti-Christ pop cult-ure trash anyway, so who really takes him seriously?)

-- Jeffrey Zimmerman (jeffreyz@seminarianthoughts.com), February 08, 2002.


Who care's about me? no-one and that's the way i like it.

Second, I was speaking hypathetically when i said "kill myself"

Third, Lik i cera abot speling, obviously you can figure it out.

Forth, no-one said i was proven i'm still woundering

Your right it is what you believe that govern's your heart. but that's not all it also helps establish who you are to other people. thats why i don't let people like you tell me how to live.

I did't say you should go crash planes but that was there choice, they chose to be marters and to kill.

like you i don't care about what you say. i say what comes to my mind when it comes.

why should i learn about caring if everyone else is just waiting for the time to stab you in the back even if you are (inside) a good person with a bad outward appearence.

the world is full of people like me, but who cares. Not me (give's the finger)

-- Steavo (pennywise_balloon@hotmail.com), February 09, 2002.


Not quite, "Steavo."
The world is full of ordinary people like you and me, but the world is not full of people who would write things as foolish as you have written here. The world is mostly full of people who would write normal, decent messages.
You are in a very small minority, because something is troubling you greatly -- depression, drugs, guilt, having been betrayed, sickness, handicap, or something else.
People here do care about you and others who are thinking and writing the way you've just written. We know that you need help.
For starters, please take my suggestion: Go to the nearest Catholic Church, and just go in and sit down and talk from your heart to God. Then relax and listen with your heart, waiting for an answer -- guidance for what you should do next. Keep going to visit Jesus in church each day until your life is transformed -- and I guarantee that it will be.

God bless you.
John

-- (jfgecik@hotmail.com), February 10, 2002.



I don't need help. I'm perfectly content with who I am and where I stand. And I do go to church, I'm a very Christian person. I just don't think the way everyone says I should. I go my way and make a new path while they follow each other and try to fight the crowd. If you think that there aren't many people like me then you haven't been out in the world yet.

Nothing is troubling me either, I'm not depressed, i don't do drugs, I have guilt but that just keeps me out of trouble, I've been betrayed (but name someone who hasn't, that's just a fact of life) Everyone gets sick, and I don't have a handicap.

Believe me when I say that even you wouldn't want to go to basically any chuch in this dank town. All they care about is who has the largest congregation. They try to make you believe that you HAVE to dress this way, you HAVE to listen to this music only, you HAVE to participate in their events, or your goin to hell. I say fuck that. I don't need them, and they detest me for it. I've been kicked out of two chuches for proving them wrong. It's ironic how the things they believe are the thing that bring them down.

People here don't care ether they only pretend to care about some-one they pretend to know. Knowing full well that they'll never meet the people they talk to, chat with, meet, or even insult.

the only way to tell if there're tellin the truth is to look them in straight in the face as they talk. if you believe that they do care, them your faith in good will is at fault and it will come around to kick you in the ass.

-- Steavo (pennywise_balloon@hotmail.com), February 12, 2002.


Steavo you said:"I'm a very Christian person."

To be a Christ-ian is to be "Christ-like" and then you slander churches cause you say that they try to make you believe a cert way! haha.. What do you think that Christ Did?? wipe the dust off of your bible and read it sometime.

If you say your are a Christian, then you are being led by Christ. What did Christ teach? what was Christ trying to get you to believe? Where is Christ leding you?

Maybe David Describes your Kind Mr. StevO

PSALMS 10:4 4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek [after God]: God [is] not in all his thoughts.

PSALMS 10:5 5 His ways are always grievous; thy judgments [are] far above out of his sight: [as for] all his enemies, he puffeth at them.

PSALMS 10:6 6 He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for [I shall] never [be] in adversity.

PSALMS 10:7 7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue [is] mischief and vanity.

Sounds kinda like your fruits huh?

PSALMS 59:12 12 [For] the sin of their mouth [and] the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying [which] they speak.

JAMES 3:10 10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

....

You said: I say that even you wouldn't want to go to basically any chuch in this dank town

Say Steve, what town do you live in,. I wouldnt mind coming and visitng sometime. (smile)

-- David (sonic_designs@yahoo.com), March 05, 2002.


I get a little tird of people calling Enya a witch or a pagan.She is Celtic and proud of her hertage,and it reflects on some of her music.So what!The problem with Enya,as far as i can see,is that she dont provide trash for people to read so some people think they have to invent something.After seeing some of the other female entertainers Enya is like a breath of fresh air.

-- Roger L Treece (rlt@pepperlink.net), May 08, 2002.

Hello,

Let celibrities be celibrities. Dont make them your Spiritual role models. We dont know what Enya does. What is important is that does she practise her faith (Catholicism).

There are plenty of role model in the Catholic history. We are a poeple who have rich traditional and historical background. I can hear the joy of those young martys who during the Roman Era sacrificed their life for faith. Se those young girls and boys in their teens and 20 and 30s gave their life just to keep faith. Make these your role model, and not Enya. There are plenty of Enyas that we already have in this world.

God Bless. Xavier

-- Xavier (xavier_david24@yahoo.com), May 13, 2002.


Enya's music is beautiful and serene, tranquil. I love it.

I'm sure someone is going to come on here and say it is New Age and we shouldn't listen to it. Let us see.

I don't understand what this New Age thing is about, but I hear a lot of Catholics say we should not listen to New Age music because it comes from the devil or something like that.

I don't understand how something that is tranquil and peaceful can be from the devil? Is it like a wolf in sheep's clothing? If someone knows anything about New Age, please enlighten me.

Thank you MaryLu

-- MaryLu (mlc327@juno.com), May 13, 2002.



MaryLu, I known nothing of Enya, so I don't know if she is involved in the New Age (pagan quasi-religion).

But since you have asked for information about the dangerous New Age, I think that you will profit much from reading this article.

All Catholics should steer clear of the New Age.

-- (@@@.@), May 13, 2002.


Most the music I write has a new age sound to it; most people would call it that if they heard it... mostly instrumental and without lyrics. They can call it new age music if they wish, but if it is well made and beautiful, then it belongs to God.

Enya is good, but Cusco is much, much better.

-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), May 13, 2002.


Emerald,

A couple questions:

1) You write music? Cool!

2) Cusco?

Mateo

-- (MattElFeo@netscape.net), May 13, 2002.


lol Cusco is a group (or, one guy and some other people?). He's the classic tree hugging type, but the music at least IMO is incredibly good; it is different to most people, though.

I have a studio setup in my living room; an Alesis QS-8 (you can see this equipment at alesis.com) and I sequence it through a program called Cubasis 5.0 on my computer. I can then mix it down and burn it to CD. Here's my problem though... this stuff is super complicated and frustrating beyond belief for me. I have over 200 songs in various stages of completion and have lost almost all my motivation to complete them. I must have ADD or something, because after about 20 minutes I feel like fixing it all with a sledgehammer.

The music has no lyrics and is not overtly religious, but some sneak Catholicism in there but you'd never know it unless you read the name of the songs; one is called Bellum Angelorum (hope my latin is right) that seemed to me to sound like the battle in heaven and there's one called House of Gold, another Morning Star, and a couple others like that.

I can email you a short segment if you can handle a 662KB MP3 email file, but most people can't.

-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), May 13, 2002.


Emerald, I am impressed - so you write music? What a gift!

Mateo - "You write music? Cool!" - surprised at you using the word "cool" - doesn't seem your style for some reason - your posts are so full of maturity and wisdom - like that of a priest or a deacon. Cool?? seems like something a very young person would say, unless I am getting too old... :) Mary Lu

-- MaryLu (mlc327@juno.com), May 13, 2002.



I like Enya's music, although it is several times overdubbed (which is one reason she doesn't do live concerts). Not all of the lyrics are in English, either, so half the time you don't know what she's singing about anyway.

Music is classified into many different categories, and just because something is classified as "rock", "new age", or whatever style doesn't mean that this or that type of music is inherently "evil".

I read the new age article link, and I hope that doesn't mean that I should get rid of my one-dollar bills because of the pyramid with the eye it on the back of the bill....

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), May 13, 2002.


Yes, GT... you absolutely must get rid of the masonic dollar bills, and especially the $100 denominations; right away. In fact, send them to me immediately; I will dispose of them properly. =)

-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), May 13, 2002.

Too funny!

I might add that one of my high school science teachers perched his razor on a pyramid and he said it (the razor) stayed sharp for a year-- he was always interested in what the scientific explanation for that would be....

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), May 14, 2002.


GT,

Generally, one has to *shave* with a razor to dull it, if all he did was leave it on the pyramid, of course it stayed sharp.

Hee hee

Frank

-- someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), May 14, 2002.


Frank, he did use it every day--so that was why he was performing the experiment--he did not believe in new age stuff, although it may be that the razor, having more of an opportunity to dry thoroughly (as in outside of the shower), kept its edge better.

-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), May 14, 2002.

Fist of all I know a lot of people call Enyas music new age, but its not, its Celtic!

Check out Enyas older sister, Maire Brennan(the voice of clannad), pronounced Moya Brennan, Shes been a christian for 10 years know and has two christian albums out, "whisper to the wild water, and "perfect time", both are solo albums,

Here is a sample of an interview with Maire Brennan

Q.Your music with Clannad often gets classified as New Age. What do you think about that?

A. When I was on tour with Clannad, a lot of Christians and non- Christians thought I was a Druid. But Clannad never really thought of itself as New Age. New Age has stolen a lot under the label `Celtic'. They've taken real things from Christians. I'm talking about oils and symbols that are in the Bible. Jesus used oil. Are we going to sit back and let them take that?

to read the whole interview go to this link

http://www.peoplejustlikeus.org/Music/Maire_Brennan.html

this is her site

Moyabrennan.com

-- emmanuel (madburrito@intellisys.net), September 08, 2002.


here is a sample of the article about Enya, this is the last paragraph of the article

--------------------------------------------------------------------- "Actually, I'm more spiritual than religious," Enya says. "I was raised Catholic, but at this stage I derive from religion what I enjoy. I'll pray -- but I mostly enjoy going into churches when they're empty. It's calming just to sit there. Again, it's like going for a walk. You just seem able to sort your priorities out."

Still, hymns were a huge influence on her music: "The hymns I sang in church are some of the most beautiful melodies I've come across. Very simple, but beautiful. Sometimes in a melody when you know the note you want to sing, it makes you feel peaceful and calm. Hymns have that quality."

This helps undercut the arguments of those who would file Enya under new age.

"I think we've shaken that off," Nicky Ryan says. "Initially it was fine, but it's really not new age. Enya plays a whole lot of instruments, not just keyboards. Her melodies are strong and she sings a lot. So I can't see a comparison."

Then what should we call her music? "She likes Enyaesque," Ryan says with a smile. "And I think that's what I'd call it too." ---------------------------------------------------------------------

SO THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here is a link in case you want to read the whole article

http://www.enya.org/papers/trans1/t043.htm

-- emmanuel (madburrito@intellisys.net), September 08, 2002.


Well, first off, I have a new found interest in Enya, and I am Christian. I honestly don't know much about Enya, but I was reading a song translation, and in the song, it said It's Halloween, It's the first day of the new year, and I do know that pagans believe that. I've also heard that Enya was raised Catholic, and she still has those beliefs, but she is more spiritual than religious. So honestly, I don't know if she's practices pagonism, or wicca or not. I need answers also, because pagonism and wicca are against the Bible. But Enya's music is so beautiful, that I really don't want to give it up. I need some help understanding Enya.

-- Cara Ann Marie (miss_popular89@hotmail.com), August 17, 2003.

According to what I have seen on the Internet, there seems to be a debate about whether or not "Enya" is a god-fearing Christian or a witch. Although she wears a cross (or crucifix), she is a fallen-away Catholic. I wouldn't take a risk of following her or listening to her work, though that's just my opinion.

One of nine children of an Irish family, "Enya" is 42, unmarried, and childless. Some "frequently asked questions" are here: http://www.enya.com/faq/mojofaq.pl?cat=e01#mojo7

JFG

-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), August 18, 2003.


Cara, you say"... But Enya's music is so beautiful, that I really don't want to give it up. I need some help understanding Enya."..

Just because something sounds or looks {or feels} "so beautiful" doesn't mean it's good. Matter of fact, it could indicate, because it appeals to and draws out our carnal desires so deeply, that it is not good. I heard her music being played somewhere recently, could have been in a store, and was very aware of my own reaction, being drawn to it, and made a quick mental note to 'not engage'.

That's key nowadays.. to be self-aware... what to engage in and what to NOT engage in. Try those links John's given.

-- Theresa Huether (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), August 18, 2003.


Enya also sings a prayer in Gaelic, it's called 'Atheir ar Neamh' if I'm not mistaken.

-- Jan-Sijmen Zwarts (j_zwarts@hotmail.com), February 03, 2004.

There was a great lecture on music and worship at a Theology-on-Tap in Old Town, Alexandria, Virginia this Monday night at a place called Pat Troy's. The priest who gave the talk was a musician who sang a guitar song, but also espoused Gregorian Chant. It was great!

In the talk, we covered that one of the ways people are drawn to God is through beauty. How we perceive beauty is subjective. If Enya's music draws you to God in some way, it is good for you. Nobody else can pass judgement on that.

-- Pat Delaney (pat@patdelaney.net), February 04, 2004.


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