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With those who have come to beleive in Jesus as the Messiah I ask are they accepted by the Catholic Church and community. I was born Jewish and became Catholic at age 12 due to intervention by a godly priest.
-- Jean Bouchard (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 03, 2002
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Who knows? Jews who believe that Jesus is the son of God are called "Christians" by most people, although they may identify culturally with Jews.
-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), March 04, 2002.
Long time no see eh?
I would think that Messianic Jews are just one of many non-Catholic Christian groups and are treated much as Pentecostals, Evangelicals, etc.
-- non-Catholic Christian (email@example.com), March 04, 2002.
Hi, David B.
I didn't understand your post. If you don't mind would you explain what you were talking about? If you would prefer not to, than no big deal. Sometimes I am slow to catch on to what someone mean't in the unspoken word.
I hope everything is going well with your family. Is your wife finished with her thearapy yet?
-- David S (firstname.lastname@example.org), March 04, 2002.
I think I goofed David. I was answering Jean's question regarding how "Jews For Christ" are viewed by the Catholic Church. When I did, I thought he was referring to the actual group called "Jews For Christ" which is a Messianic Jewish group led by Sid Roth - charismatic Christian believers who converted from Judiasm.
As such, I assumed that they would be viewed in the same way as all non-Catholic Christians are viewed. Then, in re-reading Jean's post in response to your query, I can see that he probably wasn't referring to the actual Jews For Christ group, but was simply talking about Jews who convert to Catholicism. In which case, my response is meaningless. Sorry for the confusing post. I'll try to read things more carefully.
P.S. My wife finishes therapy this week and is doing pretty well. Probably will never regain full functionality, but should get to where she doesn't notice the reduced function within a year or so. Thanks so much for asking.
-- non-Catholic Christian (email@example.com), March 05, 2002.
I am glad there's such a group- Jesus for Christ. At last Jesus is given the right title of messiah (after all, the word Christ is from the Greek "christos" which means the anointed one" of Messiah).
Besides, all the prophecies are fulfilled in Him, which you can find if you search the Scriptures. More power to your movement that gives due recognition to the "lamb that was slain" (Rev. 5:12) who now after the Resurrection is hailed as "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" (Rev. 19:16) He has conquered our hearts by love.
-- melvin manligoy (firstname.lastname@example.org), April 22, 2003.
The Bible says in Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
If Christ accepts you, then who can deny you? If anyone has a problem with Jews in Christ, they need to examine themselves. Maybe it is they who are not in Christ.
-- Renee (email@example.com), April 29, 2003.
Yes, definitely. Jesus is a Jew of the line of David, born in Bethlehem. He founded Christianity about 3,000 years ago. Jesus will not reject anyone who sincerely believes in Him and follows His example of love and truth in all sincerity.
-- melvin manligoy (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 03, 2003.
Yes, definitely. Jesus is a Jew of the line of David, born in Bethlehem. He founded Christianity about 3,000 years ago. Jesus will not reject anyone who sincerely believes in Him and follows His example of love and truth in all sincerity.The Catholic Church is presently the largest Christian denomination probably because of its unity in teachings and authority. Official teachings are the same throughout the world since in basics they have to concur with the officially approved doctrine.
-- melvin manligoy (email@example.com), May 03, 2003.
actually, Jesus was not a jew.
in order to be a member of a church one must be a worshiper of the deity to which the religion ascribes. lets note one thing... JESUS IS GOD. he is not a worshiper of God, he is God. to admit that Jesus was jewish is to say that Jesus is indeed not God. Actually, this is because by definistion the God of a church is not a member of a church. Jesus was raised in a jewish home, by jewish parents, and in the jewish tradition, but he was NOT jewish.
however, Jews who convert to the light of Christianity should be accepted with open arms. if we accept the tax collectors and prostitutes i would hope that we have rooms for Jews who convert.
-- paul (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 06, 2003.
Jesus was and is indeed fully God. But He is also fully man, and as man He did all the normal things during his earthly life that men do, except sin. That would include membership in a church. He was a typical Jewish boy raised by Jewish parents in the Jewish faith. He didn't stop being Almighty God in order to be a typical Jewish boy and man, yet that's what he was while on this earth. He went to synagogue, celebrated Passover, and did everything that other members of His faith did.
-- Paul (PaulCyp@cox.net), May 06, 2003.
Jesus is a Jew; as much now as the day He was conceived in the womb of a Jewish mother.
He is the Holy One of Israel, King of God's chosen people. But first & foremost, Jesus is a man.
Jesus is circumcised; Jesus is a son of the Law-- He gives that Law-- and fulfilled it perfectly; Jesus fulfilled all the prophesies of His own Prophets, indeed all Old Testament relevance. We are by God's grace accepted through Jesus Christ into the legitimate line of our spiritual father Abraham. This was the plan for us all that God set in motion when he called Abraham out of the land of his birth. The coming of His Holy One. His own beloved Son, Jesus. Our Glorious Lord and Saviour.
-- eugene c. chavez (email@example.com), May 06, 2003.
Yes, "little paul." Someone must have misled you about Jesus, telling you that he was not a Jew and that he did not worship God.
You wrote: "JESUS IS GOD. he is not a worshiper of God ... Jesus ... was NOT jewish."
But Paul and Eugene are right. Jesus is Jewish, and (as man) worshipped God. Consider this passage:
John 4:21-22 ... Jesus said to [the Samaritan woman], "... You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews."
As an observant Jew, Jesus made the Book of Psalms his "prayerbook." In praying to his Father, he would have spoken various psalms of worship, including ...
----- Psalm 95, which says: "O come, let us worship and bow down, let us kneel before the Lord, our Maker! For he is our God, and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand" and ...
----- Psalm 132, which says: "Let us go to his dwelling place; let us worship at his footstool!" I hope that you don't think that Jesus refused to say these words, "little paul."
God bless you.
-- J. F. Gecik (firstname.lastname@example.org), May 06, 2003.
Of course Jesus was Jewish, and he prayed to God the Father. He was presented in the temple, and the old man Simeon recognised the Messiah. Indeed he taught his disciples how to pray, hence the 'Lord's Prayer'. He prayed for hours in the garden of Gethsemane, and then his disciples fell asleep. Scripture leaves us in no doubt of this 'little paul'.
-- Sara (email@example.com), May 06, 2003.