Cud Hunting

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I have just spent an hour in my barn trying to get one of my does to let me at her cud so I can give it to Peaches. As soon as I move toward one that just brought up a big ole cud they swallow it. Does anyone have any tips for me? I can't get them to give it up!!! I tried tying the nicest doe, and just sat there and waited...as soon as she relaxed enough to bring her cud up, I moved gently toward her...SWALLOW. Arrrgh. Thanks for any tips.

BTW, I took her to the vet today and she has no indication of peritonitis, no temp, her stomach sounds were all good. All he could think of was a cud transplant. She did drink some today and ate a few leaves after I took her for a walk. If you feel like saying a prayer for this situation, I would greatly appreciate it!! Of course this is my favorite doe.

-- Doreen (animalwaitress@yahoo.com), March 27, 2002

Answers

I had heard of getting a cud out of another goat, but I wimped out and tried yogurt instead!:)

Funny you should mention prayer...I asked my husband last night if it was bad or sacreligious to thank God for letting me keep my goat and for making her better, he didn't think so....so yes, I will pray you can keep your's too. Have a good "hunt", Doreen, and a good night. Cara

-- Cara Dailey (daileyd@agalis.net), March 27, 2002.


Well, I got some, is a little less than 3 TBS going to suffice?

-- Doreen (animalwaitress@yahoo.com), March 28, 2002.

Doreen, did you know they have a cud donator cow at Texas A&M? We found her purely out of accident. When Jake was in scouts, John and the group went to Texas A&M. She has a plug that is placed in the top of her rumen, they literally take it out so folks can see the rumen churning, and they donate cud for just this purpose from her. The cud in a goat is a wad about the size of a golf ball on up, so 2 tablespoons is better than nothing! If you sit with a tame goat and as she burps up her cud you press on that side of the throat, she can not swollow it down, then all you have to do is miss getting your fingers diced grabbing it with the other hand :) vicki

-- Vicki McGaugh TX (Nubians) (vickilonesomedoe@hotmail.com), March 28, 2002.

Vicki, That sounds like tricky business! I know that I made the mistake of getting my finger in the wrong place ONCE! That is all it took! Doreen, I know that some people say that praying for an animal is not right but the way I look at it God gave them to us so why wouldn't He care about them too? I will say a prayer for you, your doe and your fingers, hehehe Good Luck with her.

-- Susan in Tx Panhandle (arniesusan@antden.com), March 28, 2002.

I will pray for your doe, too. I pray for my animals all the time. God has answered many a prayer in regards to my animals. He says if we honor and obey Him that he will give us the desires of our hearts. And we desire these wonderful creatures He has made for us. I prayed for four kids from my first doe to kid this year. She had had twins and last year a single whose name is Blessings. March 27th she gave birth to 2 does and 2 bucks. One will be named God's Glory. Talk about answered prayers! Have faith and keep on treating your doe, I believe she's going to be fine.

-- Sherilyn (mysweetpea@centurytel.net), March 28, 2002.


Thanks everyone!!! It seems to me I remember God blessing he animals in Genesis 1, so if we aren't to pray for (surely not TO) them I would like to know where that is outlined?? Paul said to pray without ceasing...anyway, I do greatly appreciate it!

Vicki, I had NO idea there was such a thing as a donator cow. That is wild! And very good to know.

What I was having trouble with was the girls throwing their heads all over the place, and me being stupid and thinking they had it in their cheek. I chained all three of the other does and waited again. My herd queen was the donator. The others would just "erp" a teensy bit, but Slinky had more confidence;).

So the easiest way to get it is to straddle the goat, tilt the head all the way up straight, hold the top of the mouth between the teeth with your off hand push the mouth open wih your dominant hand and dive down the tounge with your forefinger and thumb. Quickly. I did get nicked trying to get it from another doe, and it is like putting your hand in close to the blender blades. And I can't even discuss the smell...wow!!!

If I can get more this morning I will. Thank you all!!

-- Doreen (animalwaitress@yahoo.com), March 28, 2002.


Doreen,

I've been able to get small amounts of cud from one of my doelings. She was stupid enough to fall for it once, but not twice. She was just easier to get it from because she was smaller and easier to manage. And I know about the smell. I kept washing and washing my hand and it just wouldn't go away.

-- Charleen in WNY (harperhillfarm@yahoo.com), April 01, 2002.


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